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Michael Hagan: put up or shut up, Jarryd Hayne

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Michael Hagan: put up or shut up, Jarryd Hayne

By Paul Kent | July 18, 2008 12:00am



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Ultimatum ... Jarryd Hayne at Parramatta training. Photograph: Brett Costello / The Daily Telegraph


PARRAMATTA coach Michael Hagan has been forced to settle unrest sparked by Luke Burt's sacking after Jarryd Hayne's demand 10 days ago to play fullback. Hayne was moved to fullback in the wake of Burt's dumping earlier this week, concerning senior players that Hayne had dictated to the coach.
The players also felt a substantial amount of loyalty to Burt.
However, Hagan last night declared the switch had nothing to do with Hayne's demand and that, more, Hayne is at risk himself from getting the chop if his own form does not improve.
"We saw some improvement in what he did last week but I think we are still entitled to see more from him, to be honest," Hagan said.
Tonight's Manly game is Hayne's first and possibly only chance to justify his demand to play fullback.
The Eels take on the table-topping Sea Eagles at Brookvale Oval desperately hoping to turn around their season after recently falling out of the eight.




While they have pinpointed several key areas for improvement, Burt's performances at fullback have been a concern for some time.
A clearly worried Hagan has given the Parramatta veteran the week off to sort himself out rather than send him back to play park football with Wentworthville.
His deteriorating form in recent weeks has heavily affected the Eels' overall performance.
His runs during the past month have almost halved on his 2007 season average (11.3 to 5.2), while his yardage gains have dropped by nearly 40 per cent (99.6m to 60.5m).
The impact on the Eels went well beyond his own input, though. It meant Burt struggled to kick-start Parramatta's sets, which subsequently bogged down their whole attack.
A frustrated Hagan finally saw no choice but to stand Burt down.
He was secretly dropped during the week but the decision, coinciding with Hayne's request following the loss to Penrith a round earlier, could not have been more ill-timed.
It suggested that Hayne had forced the coach's hand and that Burt, a popular player among his teammates, had been shifted aside to accommodate the Eels' State of Origin winger.
"If Luke had played as well as we know he can he would still be there," Hagan said.
Burt's poor statistics, however, clearly illustrate just how much his football has deteriorated.
While understandably pleased with his new opportunity, tonight's game still leaves Hayne with a lot to prove to his coach, himself and, most of all, his teammates.
The message from Hagan could not be clearer: The rest is up to you.
Hayne's own performances in recent weeks have struggled to excite.
Tonight's switch comes after a recent switch from left wing to right wing where, like Burt, his recent figures have failed to match the standards he set in 2007.
Yet he is still down on runs and metres gained in recent weeks, while breaking the line just once in the past month.
His missed tackles and errors have also increased.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/nrl/story/0,21985,24037549-14823,00.html
 

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the changes are exciting.

Hayne at the back and KK. THis game will answer alot of questions. answers we may not like.
 

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the changes are exciting.

Hayne at the back and KK. THis game will answer alot of questions. answers we may not like.

Exactly right....If Hayne and KK fail to deliver tonight, it paints a pretty bleak picture....

Personally I think that their needs to be some forward changes before any backline changes will bear fruit...
 

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From these comments its fairly evident that there is no cohesion within this team. There seems to be tension between the younger and the older players.

In this scenario, I would say that there is more chance of the Pope changing religion than us winning.
 
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From these comments its fairly evident that there is no cohesion within this team. There seems to be tension between the younger and the older players.

In this scenario, I would say that there is more chance of the Pople changing religion than us winning.

Go the Pople.
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He got what he and what a majority of people on the forum wanted...... anything less than a win with him leading from the front (3 tries and 200m on kick returns alone) is a dismal failure. He is the SAVIOUR.
 

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dropping Eric didn't help, now Burt

wonder if Hagen can see that our problems start in the forwards, not the backs
 

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He got what he and what a majority of people on the forum wanted...... anything less than a win with him leading from the front (3 tries and 200m on kick returns alone) is a dismal failure. He is the SAVIOUR.

The sad thing is that's probably what Hagan is actually thinking...

This whole thing is being blown way out of proportion! It's not like Burt is a rep-level fullback or anything.
He's played that much first grade that we know exactly what he'll offer, and Hayne gave some examples last year of how he can be a real step up!

Sure, the forwards need some work, but unless Hayne is terrible for three weeks in a row, bye bye Burt?
 

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The sad thing is that's probably what Hagan is actually thinking...

This whole thing is being blown way out of proportion! It's not like Burt is a rep-level fullback or anything.
He's played that much first grade that we know exactly what he'll offer, and Hayne gave some examples last year of how he can be a real step up!

Sure, the forwards need some work, but unless Hayne is terrible for three weeks in a row, bye bye Burt?

It started with Hayne's comments being blown way out fo proportion when you look at what he actually said
 

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Hopefully Hayne can help the forwards by making those extra metres on kick returns. I like Burt and he is an asset to the team, however his style of play isn't helping the current slump.
 

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He got what he and what a majority of people on the forum wanted...... anything less than a win with him leading from the front (3 tries and 200m on kick returns alone) is a dismal failure. He is the SAVIOUR.

Don't overstate what we're saying Colonel. The Hayne move is one of many this side moves to be successful. Parra has no hope of beating Manly and I don't expect Hayne to set the world on fire either, but it's a start at least.
 

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dropping Eric didn't help, now Burt

wonder if Hagen can see that our problems start in the forwards, not the backs

Didn't we actually win a few games after Eric got dropped?

Canberra, Tigers?

Then we lost by 2 to the top of the table Sharks, and Hagan drops the most damaging ball runner in the squad...
 

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Sure, the forwards need some work, but unless Hayne is terrible for three weeks in a row, bye bye Burt?

The thing is I am not defending Burt........ the real issue lies in the forwards and they need more than work.


Peter Sterling said:
I've always believed there was a sameness about their forward pack, and the game these days is dominated so much by what happens in the middle corridor. I don't think Parramatta have the forward pack to play a power game, but they also don't have the athleticism to play a style more like the Tigers.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/new.../whats-the-matter-with-parramatta/844606.aspx

I couldn't give two sh*ts who plays fullback to be honest. It isn't the biggest issue in why the team is losing games.

1. Defence - goal line, ruck and fringes. The whole defensive line is ordinary. Attack - 21 points per game. Defence - 22 points per game. Changing the fullback may malke a difference however Haynes ability under the highball is not that much better than Burts.

2. Lack of ball movement through the forwards. One out off the dummy half every hit up is only going to see players get dominated. We lack ball runners in the team outside of Mateo. The lower grades don't suggest we have any decent options with Williams going to Manly and a host of others being off contract in NSW Cup. Taniela Lasalo and Joe Mataele are the only halfway decent fringe runner that seems to exist in the club under contract unless we look to the SG Ball sides and neither are first choice players at this stage.

They are too easily dominated.

Fixing the fullback may get the team into a position where they can build from but the lack of ball runners in the forwards suggests that not much will happen after the kick return and the first dummy half run.

Fix that first before worrying abut fullback and the team may actually get somewhere.

Doesn't matter if Hayne plays wing, centre or fullback until then.
 

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It is a sad reflection on the coach just how bad his players are playing under him. He should be bringing out the best in players - instead he is bringing out the worst.
 

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Don't overstate what we're saying Colonel. The Hayne move is one of many this side moves to be successful. Parra has no hope of beating Manly and I don't expect Hayne to set the world on fire either, but it's a start at least.

Hayne is now at fullback. Put your house on a Parramatta win. Its a given....... :roll:
 

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