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Missing me already???Well...

sanjane

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I'M BACK.

I've just recently wondered around a few of the threads and you are all asking for my presence. See what impact I've made! anyways, down to business...

POINT NO 1---EMERSON speaks out on Murali's action-

well, surprise, surprise. few impt points:

a)everytime i read an article about good ol' ross, he says murali's action is worse than ever...so obviously when he called him, his action wasn't THAT bad!
b) this guy will defend himself till the day he dies...that's what calling a guy for supposedly 'throwing' leg breaks with a full run up at around 60mph does to you!
c) he said an ACB official encouraged him to call murali....conspiracy theory...here it comes! So, Emerson did not do it wholesomely out of his own will, he did it because he'd have the back up of the big boys..pity they sacked him!
d)why does the ICC need to send him reports when everyone knows he's been cleared! especially after he was sacked by the ACB or whoever it was!

POINT 2 ---THE REPORTS: SOMEONE ASKED FOR PROOF!

a) Watch it the next time he bowls?---OK, but you seem to be forgetting a certain optical illusion...not suggested by me but by a white, Australian ,biomechanics EXPERT!!!!!!!!!!, the same one you were ready to knight when he SUGGESTED that Murali's doosra MAY be impossible to do without straightening
b) Murali's got a defect that makes him UNABLE to straighten his arm more than 5 degrees. the ICC allow for a maximum of 10 degrees straightening...so that makes him the MOST LEGAL bowler in the WORLD!!!!!!!!!

POINT 3---Lankans' names

On a lighter note, some (not all) lankan's have a few middle names as their naming system differs to yours:

They take their first name to be the surname of their kids and stick their dad's (ie the kids' grandfathers') in the middle. some choose to do it that way, others ignore the middle thing concept...just for your information (yes, they're NOT wackos!)

POINT 4- GOOD OL' BRIAN CHARLES

The best batsman on the planet does it again. And now you pretenders, your Gilchrists, Haydens...want the record again. Let me tell you this: Virender Sehwag is the only current batsman (other than Lara and Chris Gayle) who could possibly get 400 runs. you Aussies, say goodbye to the record forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

See yous later!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Matt23

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Dont worry Sanjane, the men in the white Jackets will be along to pick you up shortly.
 

El Diablo

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Why are they taking so long with his mate?

Surely they've got all the test results to say whether he chucked the balls his former coach was watching?

The same coach who said he'd defend his action to the grave or some shit :roll:

They should've had him bowling to a batsmen from every country, not a former bloody cosch who's made no hiding he thinks his action is legal.
 

sanjane

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El Duque said:
Why are they taking so long with his mate?

Surely they've got all the test results to say whether he chucked the balls his former coach was watching?

The same coach who said he'd defend his action to the grave or some sh*t :roll:

They should've had him bowling to a batsmen from every country, not a former bloody cosch who's made no hiding he thinks his action is legal.

you want him bowling to a batsmen from every country: what the hell would that achieve...see you aussies basically are forced to believe that he's been cleared and so you guys come out, questioning labs...etc etc....
he bowls to batsmen of every country as a hobby..he'll only be glad to do that!

The test results havent been released yet coz it's no big deal...he'll play in zim, he'll bamboozle em with his doosra and come back with Cuddy's record..the one your blondy will NEVER get!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

El Diablo

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sanjane said:
El Duque said:
Why are they taking so long with his mate?

Surely they've got all the test results to say whether he chucked the balls his former coach was watching?

The same coach who said he'd defend his action to the grave or some sh*t :roll:

They should've had him bowling to a batsmen from every country, not a former bloody cosch who's made no hiding he thinks his action is legal.

you want him bowling to a batsmen from every country

They'd be the best judges seeing they face him. Are you scared they'd say he's not bowling the same as he does when he plays???

The testing process is a joke.
 

Anonymous

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Maybe instead of insulting him one of you should tear his argument apart? Or are you unable to? I dunnow whether I could...


And yes, BC Lara is the best Batsmen in the world and Hayden has no chacne at the record - there's a reason only 2 men have scored 2 triple centuries.
 

booligal bill

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If Brian Lara was a team player he would have declared with an hour to go on day 2 when they were already 600. It was a great innings, but it also cost them a Test Match.

Hayden may never get the record back becausr Ponting is a team orientated captain, not one to go for individual records, unlike Mr Lara
 

Anonymous

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booligal bill said:
If Brian Lara was a team player he would have declared with an hour to go on day 2 when they were already 600. It was a great innings, but it also cost them a Test Match.

Hayden may never get the record back becausr Ponting is a team orientated captain, not one to go for individual records, unlike Mr Lara

What crap. The wicket was flat. Had they declared for 600 it still would have been a draw.
 

Tommy Smith

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booligal bill said:
If Brian Lara was a team player he would have declared with an hour to go on day 2 when they were already 600. It was a great innings, but it also cost them a Test Match.

Hayden may never get the record back becausr Ponting is a team orientated captain, not one to go for individual records, unlike Mr Lara
:roll:

If he declared on 600, they still would have drawn the test. The last time i checked the scores, England finished on about 450-5 in their second innings. The Windies only chance of winning on that wicket was by scoring so many runs as to get England in a position where they knew they had to bat for nearly three days to save a test. In the end the Windies went close, unfortunately the wicket was too good and England batted well.

The thing i find amusing is that there's always one idiot who has to say "he only goes for the individual records". You have no idea how important that innings was to Windies cricket. Regaining the record was a boost to cricket over there, whereas if he declared they still would have drawn the test and nothing else would have come out of the test.

Steve Waugh let Hayden bat on forever. Australia didnt need 730 odd runs to beat Zimbabwe, but they just went for the record because it was their for the taking. Are you going to say that Australia only play for the records? Because when Haydos was on 300, any fool could see Australia's main thought wasnt not winning, it was gaining the record. And i dont blame Waugh/Hayden for that.

For years Lara has batted like Superman, trying to save his team from deteat. And unfortunately on most occasions he hasnt succeeded in avoiding defeat despite his amzing efforts (see 2001 tour of Sri Lanka where he scored 688 runs in three lost tests). People like you dont give him credit for those efforts to save his team; yet when he finally does save his team, on this occasion saving the Windies from their first home series whitewash ever, instead of saying "he saved his team" you want to say "he only goes for individual records". :roll:
 

Tommy Smith

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Balmain_Boy said:
booligal bill said:
If Brian Lara was a team player he would have declared with an hour to go on day 2 when they were already 600. It was a great innings, but it also cost them a Test Match.

Hayden may never get the record back becausr Ponting is a team orientated captain, not one to go for individual records, unlike Mr Lara

What crap. The wicket was flat. Had they declared for 600 it still would have been a draw.
You read my mind. ;-) Lara's record was the only thing to be gained out of the match considering how flat the wicket was.
 

Anonymous

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Haha, you said it a lot better mate. I couldn't be bothered arguing, there's always a few token idiots.

Even bloody Andy Roberts ripped into him. Disgraceful from him. It's obvious he dislikes Lara.

You're also very right about it being a boost to cricket. I know for a fact the Windies cricket fans were extremly disgruntled about losing the record after holding it for 50 years...
 

booligal bill

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balmain boy- the token idiot here is you.

If you are going to comment on this sort of thing, it would be appreciated if you could atleast have some knowledge of the game. You say it would have been a draw anyway, well how do u know that? If they declared with an hour to go on day 2 they would have had the Pommy openers out there who had been in the sun for nearly 2 days-an ideal time to take wickets regardless of how good the wicket is.

Even S.Waugh daid on talking sport the other night that if Lara batted on it would have been for individual achievement rather than chasing a team result. I certainly respect the judgement of Waugh and Roberts more than you.

As for you saying Lara is better than Hayden , well you really are proving you have no idea. In the previous 7 innings (when it really counted) he scored just 100 runs, and the windies lose all 3 tests. In Australia in 2000, he failed repeatedly against Magarth and co. Even in the last test against the Poms on day 5, he did a Ganguly and spent most of the day off the field. You didnt see Hayden do that after his 380.

But thats ok, you just be happy to play for a draw and let self achievemnt over ride the team winning. Thank God you will never captain Australia with that attitude.

And if Austarlia ever goes to war, just make sure that I am not in the trenches with you.
 

fish eel

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And yes, BC Lara is the best Batsmen in the world and Hayden has no chacne at the record - there's a reason only 2 men have scored 2 triple centuries.


I dont believe Lara can be rated the best batsman in the world. Most talented? Probably. But best? Doubtfull. I just dont thin he gets the job done reguarly enough when he is needed. He can destroy any attack at will. But where was he in the firt three tests of the english series? He made 500 runs in 7 digs....400 in one hit, so what happened to the other 6.

Granted he did well in south africa....I just think guys like Hayden, Ponting and Dravid have it on Lara in terms of consistency.
 

Tommy Smith

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fish eel said:
And yes, BC Lara is the best Batsmen in the world and Hayden has no chacne at the record - there's a reason only 2 men have scored 2 triple centuries.
But where was he in the firt three tests of the english series?
I can't believe people come up with this argument. The question should be: where were his team-mates when Lara was alittle out of form with a finger injury? As usual, they were nowhere to be seen.

Lara failed in six innings as captain, and because the team lost people want to blame him. Well Ricky Ponting also failed in Sri Lanka and finished the series with an average of about 30. Why arent people on his back claiming he doesnt perform when it counts? Oh i know why, its because he has the quality teammates around him to still win the series.

The funny thing is, Ponting came out of that series will people saying "he's adjusted to captaincy brilliantly", whereas after the Windies series in SAfrica where Lara batted his heart out and scored a double ton, and another ton and a couple of half-centuries, people questioned his captaincy because they lost the tests 3 nil. But anyone could see that wasnt his fault because despite his efforts they simply didnt have the bowlers.

And you talk about Lara's consistency, awell it's a complete myth that he isnt consistent. He is the fastest batsmen in history to reach 9000 test runs, faster than Tendulkar and faster than Steve Waugh and Alan Border by about 40 innings. :shock: Are you going to tell me that Tendulkar was incocnsistent and Waugh and Border were incredibly inconcsistent? The ONLY reason people assume he is incocnsistent is because the Windies lose all the time. But he cant help that if he doesnt have the bowlers AND the batsmen to help him out when he fails. I mean look how Steve Waugh went against India when Aus were without McGrath and Warne. India scored runs at will yet that wasnt Steve Waugh's fault was it.
 

sanjane

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Lara is the most talented batsman of this era-by FAR!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hayden, despite a superior avg and all will only be deemed good when his career is over. Lara produces innings when it counts...some of you seem to be forgetting what happened after WI were bowled out for 51 or stg in their own backyard.

Most WI fans couldnt care less if the score was 3-0 or 3-1, but this record brings a sense of ownership, first sobers, then lara, then theif hayden(they think) and again lara...it gives back a sense of pride. The series was lost but one thing they gained was the world record...something that's not achieved too many times...just ask hayden when his career is over!

about consistency...that is the most overated word! none of your australian bats are consistent (look wat happened in SL, where we had you on the ropes but one or two guys would dig you out, like Langer and Katich in the last test, Hayden in the 1st and Lehmann in the 2nd,...) In fact the only 'consistent' batsman in my book would be Rahul Dravid. A few years ago, i would have thrown in Chanderpaul, but not of late.

Ponting and Hayden in the same sentence as consistency and Dravid....huh!
 

Tommy Smith

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booligal bill said:
balmain boy- the token idiot here is you.

Even in the last test against the Poms on day 5, he did a Ganguly and spent most of the day off the field. You didnt see Hayden do that after his 380.

And if Austarlia ever goes to war, just make sure that I am not in the trenches with you.
:lol: You say Balmain boy has no diea when you come up with this? :?

Lara did well to even play in the fourth test because he had a fractured finger. And understandably after a 13 hour innings the injury was aggravated so he had to stay off the field for Day 5 to seek medical attention. The injury is bad enough for him to miss the first three one-day internationals.

And Hayden didn't go off after his 380, but he didnt have a fractured finger either.

BTW, how does a cricket argument end up at not wanting to be in the trenches with someone? :shock:
 

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