Mod chipping?

[sunny]

How many people here have mod-chipped a console of theirs? What do you think of the practice?

 

[KimmorleyKiller]

its not illegal to sup up your car, but its illegal to mod your own hardware????

WATS DOING?

 

[inertia666]

i have one. do you mean installing or by the ethics of it?

Ethically i have no problem with it, of course. my xbox is basically a PC in a black box sitting underneath the tv. it's hardly any different from a laptop computer except its more designed for media now.

concerning playing backup games.....well i've to 2 young kids in this house and already have a few lost dvds and broken stuff. its amazing what they get their hands on. i don't like playing with the dvd in the drive anyway, its a much faster and smoother experience.

i'm sure there's lots of statistics for piracy and why we shouldn't be able to backup or copy games but at the end of the day there are more software houses than ever and the amount of combined revenue in the games market seems to out do Hollywood.

I'm not going to condone software piracy so if you have something you've copied and you like then think about buying it.

 

[inertia666]

tp

 

[inertia666]

tp

 

[Mad Dogg]

My PS1 was chipped, and I did burn quite a few games. However, they were all games that I didn't want enough to actually buy, so the games industry didn't lose any money. I still bought the big guns like Final Fantasy. Indeed, if anything the games industry made money from me burning games, as there was one game (can't remember what it was now) that I hired out and liked, but not enough to buy. So I burned it, and after playing it a while longer I realised that I was really starting to get into it and went and bought the game itself.

 

[canberra_raiders2k2]

My PS1 was chipped, and I did burn quite a few games. However, they were all games that I didn't want enough to actually buy, so the games industry didn't lose any money. I still bought the big guns like Final Fantasy. Indeed, if anything the games industry made money from me burning games, as there was one game (can't remember what it was now) that I hired out and liked, but not enough to buy. So I burned it, and after playing it a while longer I realised that I was really starting to get into it and went and bought the game itself.

lol how can they make money if your getting free games? u say you burn't games that you didnt want enough to buy...im betting around 70% of ur games are burn't...

by buying one game after you burn't it made everything even with piracy and ripping off software developers? sounds like u just dont want to say your cheap.

 

[westhull]

anyone think that having to purchase more than copy of a game per household is a rip off or is just me that thinks so?

 

[canberra_raiders2k2]

why would you want more then 1? sytem link?

 

[inertia666]

at the risk of firing off a piracy debate i'd like to ask the people who are holier than thou .

1. do you every tape things from the TV or skip adverts?
2. have you ever copied a music cassette/cd/vinyl
3. have you ever copied a game or application
4. have you ever taken something you've never really paid for
5. have you ever sneaked a read of a magazine in the store without buying it?

if you have restrained on all 5 then congratulations...you can indeed be holier than thou. 8)

I'm quite sure that people who don't mind piracy may indeed have more things in the collection than paid for and it's highly debatable on what would and wouldnt have been paid for isn't it. I bet the same people who maybe have 100 copied games don't play half of the damn things and they just sit there rotting in a cupboard.

there's always gonna be a lot of people paying and never copying and vice versa and all the in between stages but these bullshit figures of "1 Download = $70 gone from the pocket of the makers" is bollocks.

you cannot quantify it because there's too many "ifs" involved and hypothesis of just where a sale is lost. and you can bet your life a sale never gets added on where people who do buy the game from a download occur.

we've been hearing the same sad story from all the media instustries for the last 25 years and it seems to be stronger than ever. funny that.

 

[bulldog]

Simply put, if you give me a decent demo to try your software you can bet I will not get a pirate version. I am never ever going to pay $90+ for something I have not at least tried beforehand, I've wasted far too much money, and most stores won't accept software back just because you think it is rubbish. I've been playing games for 20+ years and I regularly pirate software, however if the game is good I will definitely buy it. I spend a lot of money on software so any claims my actions are costing anyone are just plain wrong.

I can go to the local cinema and watch a movie from beginning to end, or wait for it on DVD, either way I'm not paying a retail price for an unknown quantity. If I like the movie I can then buy it, I don't have any legal avenues to do the same with my PC games.

How many people here use winzip or winrar, and how many have bought it? I have.

 

[Broncodroid]

I am not getting into the debate of piracy and whether or not I am holier than thou. Though I will add this.

Personally, I am an outed sports junkie and love nothing more than the release from life I get when surfing at my local break. Outside that I work and at home I endulge in PS2 games as like the surf, you can escape for an hour or two.

Being an American football fan, NFL and NCAA, I am only able to purchase the Madden series title in Australia due to the ps2 / tv PAL and NSTC rule (no, its not a rule as such, though I am not technically minded and someone else can explain the difference). Simply, PAL is used in the UK/AUS ps2 consoles in conjunction with our TV's, NTSC is the rest of the world it seems.

In an effort to play the successful EAS Sports NCAA Football series, I purchased a modded PS2 which now allows me to play all games. Illegal, apparently yes though I can make a good argument why it should not be, though I do not pirate games, I import the titles from the shores of the USA from www.realgamer.com.au.

 

[Mad Dogg]

My PS1 was chipped, and I did burn quite a few games. However, they were all games that I didn't want enough to actually buy, so the games industry didn't lose any money. I still bought the big guns like Final Fantasy. Indeed, if anything the games industry made money from me burning games, as there was one game (can't remember what it was now) that I hired out and liked, but not enough to buy. So I burned it, and after playing it a while longer I realised that I was really starting to get into it and went and bought the game itself.

lol how can they make money if your getting free games? u say you burn't games that you didnt want enough to buy...im betting around 70% of ur games are burn't...

Probably about 60%. But I didn't want any of them enough to warrant paying $90 for them, as I knew I'd play them a few times and then never touch them again. At the time I didn't have a job, so whether I burnt games or not I would only have been able to buy a game every few months.

The one and only game that I may have bought if I hadn't burned was Smackdown 2, and that was a 50/50 call.

 

[KimmorleyKiller]

i burnt microsofts PacMan......hey has anyone ever noticed these emoticons are all pacmen? :shock: :? 8) :lol: :x :evil: :twisted: :roll: ;-) :|

 

[sunny]

Being a massive sports fan. my thoughts are similar to those of broncodroid's here, particularly in regard to ncaa football and the like, which I have no other way of playing other than modding my ps2. As far as I'm concerned, once I've paid my money for for my ps2, what i do to it is no business of sony's whatsoever. They can void the warranty if I do ceratin stuff to it, that's fine, but they can stick their warranty as far as I'm concerned.....I want to play my ncaa football.

 

[inertia666]

the next thing the big conspiracy has planned is to make it illegal to skip adverts/commericals on dvds you have paid for or rented. this crap never ends.

dvd region coding should be illegal - it's racist in my opinion.

 

[bulldog]

In Australia the government supposedly made it illegal to import or sell mult-region capable DVD Players, I could go and pick up 15 different models that the storekeepers claim are multi-region in less than 30 mins.


Some of the companies (Sony) that scream the loudest about piracy continue to provide hardware that only exacerbates the problem.

 

[canberra_raiders2k2]

There are more division within sony..but yea its stupid.

 

[sunny]

Can't most new computers play multi-region dvds?

 

[bulldog]

There is a region code setting in the drives, but it is easily defeated.
Most player software includes region coding, it too is easy to beat.