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Mundine chickened out at a shot.

carcharias

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This should ruffle a few feathers.

Today on 2ky Big Sports Breakfast they had Joe Calzaghe's manager ( Frank Warren )on talking about the fight with Kessler.

Anyway they asked if Mundine would get a shot.

His manager then said they offered the Man his big chance 6 months ago .
the offer was for the fight to be in the UK.
Not a word from the man....no reply what so ever.
Then he said he will again offer the Man 2 million US dollars to come to fight JC in Sept.

He also said JC would come to Australia to fight the Man for the same amount he is getting to go to Denmark for the Kessler fight.

so will the man take up the challenge?

 

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Hmmm.. It wasn't that long ago they claimed they didn't know who he was..

Now they say they offered him a shot a while back??

When the date of his fight against Kessler if he wants to fight Mundine in September?
 

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Mong said:
Hmmm.. It wasn't that long ago they claimed they didn't know who he was..

Now they say they offered him a shot a while back??

When the date of his fight against Kessler if he wants to fight Mundine in September?

JC has agreed to Kesslers terms to fight in Denmark ....but Kessler side hasn't got back to him.
Kesslers manager has had a heart prob and is in Hospital .
JC's manager thinks this is why they haven't heard back yet to set the date.

dunno about the other ''haven't heard of mundine stuff'' but JC's manager came straight out and said it.

He also said he has not heard back from most other contenders. So he wasn't suprised at the Mans no reply.

Richard Freeman and TK were getting very excited by it all .
And kept asking him to repeat the challenge...and confirm the offer from 6 months ago.

I get the feeling Mundine is nothing to JC's camp.
 

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I am surprised he would come here to fight.. He doesn't seem to fight outside of wales to often..

Be interesting to see what the terms of the offer were if there is an offer... it's the first i have heard of it and i would have thought it would have made news within the boxing fraternity but i had not heard anyone mention it before now.

*edit*

Just noticed his manager is Frank Warren..

That being the case, i'd like to see the "conditions" in the offer before making judgement... He's so full of sh*te i wouldn't be surprised if there has been no offer made to fight at all..
 

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here you go mong

Choc demands Calzaghe come clean


ANTHONY Mundine's manager has invited Joe Calzaghe's camp to formalise an offer for a unification bout between the super-middleweight title-holders and rejected claims that the WBA champion was avoiding the Welshman, saying it was the other way around.
In an interview on 2KY's Big Sports Breakfast yesterday, Calzaghe's promoter, Frank Warren, said he tabled a $US2 million ($2.38m) bid six months ago for Mundine to fight the long-reigning WBO title holder - but had never received a reply.
But Mundine's manager, Khoder Nasser, rubbished Warren's comments and said he was the one who had approached the Calzaghe camp about a possible match-up between the pair and had been waiting to hear back for the same period of time.
While he now welcomed news that Calzaghe may be interested in fighting Mundine, Nasser doubted Warren's sincerity.
"We've been calling Frank Warren for the past six months trying to get Joe Calzaghe; we have never, ever, received a reply about an offer or a counter offer," Nasser said from the Gold Coast, where Mundine is preparing for his June 27 title defence against Argentina's Pablo Daniel Zamora Nievas. "He said he offered us $2m, but to start the negotiating process Frank has got to understand that saying ain't doing.
"If you want to negotiate to fight Anthony Mundine, do you talk to 2KY or do you talk to Khoder Nasser? Why wouldn't you send something through the fax machine with your signature on it?"
Denmark's Mikkel Kessler, who beat Mundine in 2005, has been seeking a fight with Calzaghe since last September, but just two weeks ago the WBA super champion and WBC titleholder's manager, Mogens Palle, accused Warren of shielding Calzaghe from the bout.
Warren now says Calzaghe wants to accept the offer and would be willing to travel outside Britain for only the third time in his 43-fight career. Whether the bout happens remains to be seen.
"Frank Warren is an astute businessman and he wants to keep his boy on top," Nasser said. "He doesn't want to put him in dangerous fights against Anthony Mundine or Mikkel Kessler or Bernard Hopkins or Roy Jones jnr, because they've all tried to get Calzaghe.
"Speaking to people in boxing circles, they've always told me he doesn't have Anthony Mundine on his radar. If you look at Choc's history, he's never once evaded a serious fight; he had only 10 professional fights when he fought Sven Ottke, a guy that had more title defences than he'd had fights, and he didn't shy away from Kessler for one second.
" … You've got to ask yourself, who has Joe fought over the past four years?"

http://www.smh.com.au/news/sport/choc-demands-calzaghe-come-clean/2007/06/07/1181089238360.html

the Blokes on the radio asked him about Mundine and the prospect of a fight and that is why he answered .
Nasser saying that stuff in red is off the mark ....if you heard the interview.
Warren wasn't even on the radio to talk about Mundine.
He was hijacked by TK and Richard .

well we'll see
The bloke has challenged the man .

I saw some footage of his fight with Lacy....are these guys even in the same weight as Mundine?

Lacy looked like a gorilla...he was huge.
 

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Lacy is a bit of a tank, but he's only about 5'8''. He is super-middleweight.

Here's him compared to Calzaghe


lacy.jpg
 

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well we'll see
The bloke has challenged the man .

Which bloke? JC has? I didn't read that there anywhere.

Warren is an out and out lier, any boxing fan will tell you that.
 

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Which bloke? JC has? I didn't read that there anywhere.

Warren is an out and out lier, any boxing fan will tell you that.
Frank Warren is the biggest liar in boxing. He even out does Don King. That said, I think Koder knows his boy has got no chance against Calzaghe.
 

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Frank Warren said it on the radio yesterday.

He said 2 mill US Dollars for Mundine to go to the UK...OR
For what he is getting to go to Denmark he will come to Australia.

It was very clear...very very clear.


Like I said though...I got the impression they don't give a toss about Mundine.

Why would they really?....He hasn't actually won a belt off anyone and has been beaten by blokes JC could whip .
Why would he bother chasing Mundine?
 

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Oh.. So Warren saying that on radio constitutes an actual offer??

Lol..

As Khoder said (and i rarely agree with him), send something through faxed and signed.. Saying that on the radio means nothing.. Especially from Warren..

Don't be sucked in by anything Warren has to say. not surprising to see that Kesslers manager is saying that Warren is trying to shield JC from him.. I won't be surprised if that fight never happens either..
 

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Oh.. So Warren saying that on radio constitutes an actual offer??

bwhahahahaha

one eyed Mundine supporters are funny fuggers.

Of course the mans manager wouldn't lie now would he?

The way the man's going he will still be fighting nobodys here in Aus in 4 years time.


Why isn't Mundine over there in the UK challenging JC in the media then?

WTF is his manager doing??
they seem too busy wasting time on rematches with a bloke who couldn't land a punch on him 3 years ago.
 

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carcharias said:
bwhahahahaha

one eyed Mundine supporters are funny fuggers.

Of course the mans manager wouldn't lie now would he?

The way the man's going he will still be fighting nobodys here in Aus in 4 years time.

Why didn't you answer the question?

I agree partly with your last line in that bit, i am not happy with his next choice of opponent. There could have been many reasons for it but i still think there would have been a better "keep busy" fight then this one available. Although his last 2 fights have hardly been against nobodies..

Why isn't Mundine over there in the UK challenging JC in the media then?

WTF is his manager doing??
they seem too busy wasting time on rematches with a bloke who couldn't land a punch on him 3 years ago.

What's that got to do with it? the topic at hand is Mundine apparently receiving an offer to fight JC.. An offer that includes JC fighting here when his record suggests he would not do that..

I am questioning whether what your original post says, is an actual offer to fight.. You seem to think it is.. Why?

Would you accept it if Mundine came out in the media and said he would fight him? Would that make it all better for you?

Neither that or this "Offer" would in anyway mean they were ever going to fight..

But hey, you keep plugging away there..
 

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One should look no further than the actual amount the calzaghe camp would have offered mundine. I dont believe it would have been more than Half a mil.

If the man is going to cop a spanking, he surely would want more money for it, it could possibly be his last if he were to be humiliated.
 

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LMAO id talk Warrens word with a grain of sand, hes is the biggest POS in boxing and is exactly what is wrong with it. Calzaghe is only bringing Mundines name up now because Kessler agreed to fight Joe. Slappy needs an excuse to get out of that fight and im sure he'll have a beauty.

Mundine made in excess of 1 million for his pro debut and more then 6 million for a Green fight. 2 million for Anthony to go to Enlgand and unify is pathetic.
 

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andrew057 said:
Because Calzaghe is a bitch and needs an excuse not to fight Kessler.

Calzaghe has been through a messy divorce and will take on anyone pretty much if there is a good dollar to be made. He took on Manfredo jnr of the contender fame ffs.

He is still the best in that weight class atm. I hope his fight with Kessler goes ahead, would be a cracker.
 

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sydraider said:
Calzaghe has been through a messy divorce and will take on anyone pretty much if there is a good dollar to be made. He took on Manfredo jnr of the contender fame ffs.

He is still the best in that weight class atm. I hope his fight with Kessler goes ahead, would be a cracker.

Divorce or no divorce, Calzaghe and Warren have been the two biggest bullsh*ters/liars in boxing for the past 10 years. Calzaghe is only #1 by default, and if he continues to dodge meaningful opposition (like he has for the majority of his career) Kessler will soon take the mantle of #1.

I agree, it would be a hell of a fight.
 

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andrew057 said:
Divorce or no divorce, Calzaghe and Warren have been the two biggest bullsh*ters/liars in boxing for the past 10 years. Calzaghe is only #1 by default, and if he continues to dodge meaningful opposition (like he has for the majority of his career) Kessler will soon take the mantle of #1.

I agree, it would be a hell of a fight.

He beat Lacy, if he doesnt fight Kessler then who is there?

Lets talk about ducking, your boy mundine picks an in between fight against some argentinian who doesnt even rate? Why not take on the 4th or 5th contender?
 

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sydraider said:
Calzaghe has been through a messy divorce and will take on anyone pretty much if there is a good dollar to be made. He took on Manfredo jnr of the contender fame ffs.

:lol: Manfredo Jr. I don't even know how that guy won The Contender !
 

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He took on Manfredo jnr of the contender fame ffs.

SR if your suggesting that manfredo Jnr r even any of those contenders from the first series are world class and good enough to fight at that level then you should stop talking about boxing right now... It's worth having a look at his fight against JC which will show you exactly what i mean...

He is still the best in that weight class atm. I hope his fight with Kessler goes ahead, would be a cracker.

Kessler is by far the best fighter in that division at the moment..
 
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