Mundine fight

[El Diablo]

Its not stupidity it common sense something that you haven't got, i'll explain it for you:

1. Ottke hasn't beat many fighter's by way of KO

2. Ottke is considered one of the lightest punchers in the super-middleweight division, by a lot of fighters and boxing guru's

3. Therefore when he knocked out Mundine it could be considered as a lucky punch and more like a king hit you'd find down the local pub if you stir up one of the locals.

It's very simple, like yourself

Ottke intended to throw a punch directed straight at Mundine's unguarded head. He carried out his intentions and put Mundine to sleep. No luck in it what so ever. It was what he intended to do. Deal with it!!

 

[Aussie_Knight]

You can't prove that he intended to knock Mundine out sure he intended to throw a punch but i'd bet he didn't believe he could knock him out and thats where the luck comes into it.

 

[Dale]

..and if they BOTH spent the night running away from each other? That would be an entertaining fight wouldn't it!!

 

[El Diablo]

You can't prove that he intended to knock Mundine out sure he intended to throw a punch but i'd bet he didn't believe he could knock him out and thats where the luck comes into it.

You said it was a lucky punch :roll:

 

[Aussie_Knight]

It was a lucky punch, as ive said before Mundine has wore bigger hits on his chin so i don't think that Ottke intended to KO Mundine as Ottke himself knows he hasn't got any power - and this is represented in his career fight record.

 

[El Diablo]

It was a lucky punch, as ive said before Mundine has wore bigger hits on his chin so i don't think that Ottke intended to KO Mundine as Ottke himself knows he hasn't got any power - and this is represented in his career fight record.

Jesus wept. There was no luck. He didn't swing wildly and luckily catch him on the sweet spot. He hit Mundine exactly where he intended to and that is not luck!!

 

[Aussie_Knight]

Can't you see what i'm trying to say the punch was lucky in the context that it KO'd Mundine i never said he didn't intend to punch him after all without any punches there would be no boxing match again its just common sense mate use your head for once.

 

[El Diablo]

Can't you see what i'm trying to say the punch was lucky in the context that it KO'd Mundine i never said he didn't intend to punch him after all without any punches there would be no boxing match again its just common sense mate use your head for once.

How about you use your head.

Just because Ottke has bugger all KO's on his record doesn't mean he can't punch as was shown when he clocked Mundine. It also doesn't mean that when he does get a KO that it was "luck".

Winning the lottery is luck. Ottke knocking out Mundine isn't. Deal with it!!

 

[cheese]

mundine won last night...........deal with it

 

[Aussie_Knight]

First of all let me remind you that Mundine laughed off much harder blows than that last night against Echols and you are going to tell me that Ottke didn't have any luck at all when it came down to his knock out punch?

Every boxer, boxing legend, boxing journalist and boxing guru would tell you that it was a lucky punch but they'd also say that it is a big part of boxing anyway, thats luck if you are wondering.

I never said that Ottke's other KO's were lucky, i just used it to back up the point that he had no power in his punches compared to other fighters.

So why don't you Deal with it!! :lol:

Whats the lottery got to do with boxing, and if knocking out mundine isn't lucky why is it that only one fighter has ever KO'd him?

and here is a quote for you "The rap on Mundine, remember, was that he hadn't been knocked out by Sven Ottke but that when he got knocked down he refused to get up".

That would explain a lot regarding Ottke's lack of punching power and Mundine's inexperience and lack of preperation for a fight he almost won.

 

[El Diablo]

You sir are a dribbbler.

You have no idea what luck is, especially seeing you didn't understand the lottery analogy.

Your argument is so flawed it's not funny. Next you'll be telling me Trevor Berbick had a better chin than Mike Tyson because Buster Douglas couldn't knock him out.

 

[Aussie_Knight]

I understood your analogy, i just didn't see the point of why it was used, and it is your argument that is flawed mate - everyone knows Ottke can't punch as he beats most of his opponents with his technique and defence.

And you are calling me a dribbler, were talking about Mundine and Ottke, not Berbick, Tyson, Douglas or the lottery.

 

[midas]

as a non-fan of boxing,I was impressed by Mundine,s performance and thought he was entitled to call himself World Champion.
when I read the next day that Ottke is the Super champion and Mundine is the Champion,I thought boxing has now become totally ridiculous.
Mundine is now the official no.1 contender,nothing more .
He can kid himself all he likes but he has to beat Ottke to really be World Champion.
Is there a time frame in which Ottke has to defend his title?

 

[El Diablo]

as a non-fan of boxing,I was impressed by Mundine,s performance and thought he was entitled to call himself World Champion.
when I read the next day that Ottke is the Super champion and Mundine is the Champion,I thought boxing has now become totally ridiculous.
Mundine is now the official no.1 contender,nothing more .
He can kid himself all he likes but he has to beat Ottke to really be World Champion.
Is there a time frame in which Ottke has to defend his title?

I think it's 18 months maximum since he won it which was two months ago.

 

[Blade]

I think it's 18 months maximum since he won it which was two months ago.

I always thought a title was only valid for 12months, ElDuque?

You're probably correct though.

 

[El Diablo]

I think it's 18 months maximum since he won it which was two months ago.

I always thought a title was only valid for 12months, ElDuque?

You're probably correct though.

Yes usually titles have to be defemded against the mandatory every 9 or 12 months. When the WBA created 'super' champions they extended that.

Basically, Mundine is Ottke's mandatory. I'm sure if Ottke ditched his IBF world title then Mundine would be stripped of his 'world' title as Ottke would no longer be the 'super' champion.

 

[midas]

Read in today,s paper that some Welsh bloke is the WBO super middleweight champ.WBO? how many versions of world titles are there?
Also read that Ottke fights tomorrow against some Scandinavian guy and then plans to fight Bernard Hopkins.
Looks like Mundine has some waiting to do before he gets to be a proper World Champion.

 

[jaafar]

ANTHONY IS THE MAN. HE IS THE BEST BOXER AUSTRALIA HAS EVER PRODUCED. HE MAULED ECHOLS LIFE. DID U SEE THE SWELLING OVER HIS LEFT EYE???

 

[Michael_Selway]

ANTHONY IS THE MAN. HE IS THE BEST BOXER AUSTRALIA HAS EVER PRODUCED. HE MAULED ECHOLS LIFE. DID U SEE THE SWELLING OVER HIS LEFT EYE???

yes i saw the swelling, danny green may beat mundine

 

[bender]

ANTHONY IS THE MAN. HE IS THE BEST BOXER AUSTRALIA HAS EVER PRODUCED.

Mundine vs Mundine Snr would have been a pretty good match. I think he has got a fair way to go yet, but he does definitely have ability. He seemed to learn from the Ottke Knockout and most likely from his father's experiences of being knocked out.