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My Review of the Wests Tigers 2012

Matchball

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That's impressive and a good summary of the joint venture but.....

Nobody could possibly have a girlfriend if you got time to write all that.
 

37916319

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Happily married

I call bullshit, never met anyone that's happily married. Lol.

Well done on the blog.

I didn't think it was too long givin the Tigers history component. Also wasn't just a Sheens bashing. The early part if the article was insightfull and reminded us of the shemozzle that was the Tigers pre Sheens and just how important his contribution was, but as stated time for change.

Sheens has many strengths, just not at the Tigers. I'm afraid he's exhausted them all.

Look forward to the additional video etc, let us know when it's up.
 

leoc

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One very well written article with some great stats.
Great job MU but keep the creative juices flowing cause you'll be putting another article together again this time next year re: Sheens.
 

R2Coupe

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A lot of work has gone into this so I admire your dedication. However, I feel the article is not balanced but this is probably because it is written for a particular audience. I do not agree with your conclusion and your view on juniors is incorrect among a number of other issues. Nonetheless, I can appreciate the time you put into this article.
 

innsaneink

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Top effort maddy

Not many positives to the year, you nailed Woods but I feel Farahs in particular, and Koros contributions couldve been touched on a bit more

Other than that...very good
 

Pistol_Pete

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What an effort by Woods this season
Embarrassed the older and better paid players with his form and work rate
Probably because he takes nothing for granted unlike those whose names are already on the pre-printed team sheets
Ronald was willing to flog him to Cronulla when Stuart was coach. Only Woods' loyalty to the Tigers and fulfilling his boyhood dream kept him in Tigertown
 

N.C.

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A lot of work has gone into this so I admire your dedication. However, I feel the article is not balanced but this is probably because it is written for a particular audience. I do not agree with your conclusion and your view on juniors is incorrect among a number of other issues. Nonetheless, I can appreciate the time you put into this article.
Which particular audience has this been written for, R2?

Great piece madunit, although some of the points you've argued don't seem to flow through to the conclusions you've drawn. To be fair, I would put this down to editing than to any major flaws in your arguments...
 

Ron's_Mate

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Are you going to mention the non-signing of Willie Mason? I think it has relevance to your remarks about the overworking of Woods and Galloway due to lack of forward depth. Also considering that apparently Sheens and the players wanted him but were overruled by sponsors.
I would also note Fifita's indiscreet snippet about the divided dressing room - I think that hints at an underlying issue that might also impact team performance in 2013.
 

N.C.

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Seems everyone is distracted by the disappointing prospect of another couple of years with Sheens - and fair enough... but I thought I'd drop in here for a bit more of a chat about our failed season...

I was talking with a mate about this the other day. He keeps shaking his head and saying "how did we come so close to knocking over the minor premiers just a few weeks ago? Was it just a matter of Robbie being out?"

It got me to thinking - we actually weren't that far off the mark for most of the season. Without going back and looking at the match-results, my recollection is that we lost a few that we shouldn't have, we lost a few that were pretty close, but over all we were a mostly competitive side that just couldn't get it to click. At least, we didn't get consistently blown off the park.

Thing is, the team always seemed surprised to lose. I don't know if it's a 'self-belief' thing that the coach has got them working on (which might explain why Benji loves him so much...) or what but it just seems like the attitude is "we are good enough, we work hard, we deserve it, we'll be right".

Then a couple of weeks out from the finals and the wheels really started to fall off. We came within a point of the premiers in a game where the refs gifted them a try and probably cost us one too. From there we just capitulated completely. The team just gave up. The self-belief was shown to be false-belief, and the boys had no tools in the kit to help dig themselves out of that hole. They just had no fight in them.

I thought about this, and I was reminded of the game against Souths where we conceded something like 12 points in 2 minutes to lose a game that we had every right to have won. We thought we'd had it in the bag. We switched off. The game changed in an instant and we didn't have what was needed to regroup and close it out.

I thought about this some more... I thought about our final game in 2011, where pretty much that exact same thing happened. I remembered our boys telling us that this was their motivation for 2012 - the pain of losing that game, in that way, would drive them to go one or two better this year.

Well, it didn't. All we got was more of the same. More dropped opportunities. More capitulation when it mattered.

There is a problem with attitude that cannot simply be attributed to the players themselves. I think we all know and understand this but I felt the need to put it into words.

We've got a great team. It's a team full of winners. But it's not a team who is prepared to fight for it when it's all on the line. They just don't seem to know how.
 
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Magpie Tragic

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Seems everyone is distracted by the disappointing prospect of another couple of years with Sheens - and fair enough... but I thought I'd drop in here for a bit more of a chat about our failed season...

I was talking with a mate about this the other day. He keeps shaking his head and saying "how did we come so close to knocking over the minor premiers just a few weeks ago? Was it just a matter of Robbie being out?"

It got me to thinking - we actually weren't that far off the mark for most of the season. Without going back and looking at the match-results, my recollection is that we lost a few that we shouldn't have, we lost a few that were pretty close, but over all we were a mostly competitive side that just couldn't get it to click. At least, we didn't get consistently blown off the park.

Thing is, the team always seemed surprised to lose. I don't know if it's a 'self-belief' thing that the coach has got them working on (which might explain why Benji loves him so much...) or what but it just seems like the attitude is "we are good enough, we work hard, we deserve it, we'll be right".

Then a couple of weeks out from the finals and the wheels really started to fall off. We came within a point of the premiers in a game where the refs gifted them a try and probably cost us one too. From there we just capitulated completely. The team just gave up. The self-belief was shown to be false-belief, and the boys had no tools in the kit to help dig themselves out of that hole. They just had no fight in them.

I thought about this, and I was reminded of the game against Souths where we conceded something like 12 points in 2 minutes to lose a game that we had every right to have won. We thought we'd had it in the bag. We switched off. The game changed in an instant and we didn't have what was needed to regroup and close it out.

I thought about this some more... I thought about our final game in 2011, where pretty much that exact same thing happened. I remembered our boys telling us that this was their motivation for 2012 - the pain of losing that game, in that way, would drive them to go one or two better this year.

Well, it didn't. All we got was more of the same. More dropped opportunities. More capitulation when it mattered.

There is a problem with attitude that cannot simply be attributed to the players themselves. I think we all know and understand this but I felt the need to put it into words.

We've got a great team. It's a team full of winners. But it's not a team who is prepared to fight for it when it's all on the line. They just don't seem to know how.


If I may summarise, "a champion team will always beat a team of champions"
 

N.C.

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But it's more than that, Tragic.

It's like we've got this ingrained sense of entitlement - like despite the fact that we've only been to the finals three times since the merger, the premiership in 2005 and the hype leading in to 2012 show that we are good enough to win it, and that's good enough. Like hard work and grit and resolve don't actually count for anything - we're a chance just because we're there. And if we don't win it, that's okay, because we know we could have, if only... You have to be lucky to win premierships, after all.

And when we finally start to realise that without the hard work and the resolve we're not in any position to go around writing this script, there's nothing we can do to stop the implosion.

It's not about a team of champions, it's about a culture of entitlement, and taking success for granted.

You can't single any players out because they all have their moments, good and bad. It's a problem with the club and it has to come from the lessons being taught by the coach, his staff and his guest entertainers.
 
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Tiger Hill

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Fantastic review. A group of us are season ticket holders over many years now and you described exactly what all of all have been thinking all year. Top effort.
 

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