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Need for Speed

b.bear

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With our team lacking so much in the speed department at the moment. I was wondering who are our best SPEED prospects of 1st grade standard,that would be able to step up because, at the moment it's embarrasing how slow we are.
 

madunit

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Koroibete, Chisholm are the only prospects I can think of.
 

Tiger05

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Moltzen in the team makes a difference. If Benji ran the ball it would make a difference. I don't think we need huge changes but we need Benji to pick up his game and Moltzen to start playing like a rep level player.

Add to that a fast winger to replace Lote and we should be sweet.
 

Pistol_Pete

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If I have to watch these brain dead spastics make some genius look like joey johns again i'll be needing more that speed. Rohypnol and Ket would be good starting points
 
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Does any one know if Marshall has a shoulder injury,as he only ever arm tackles and he is reluctant to run the ball and be tackled.
 

MacDougall

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James Grant. He has had two good games for BRET. They happened to be the last two he played. If he plays well tomorrow he will be heavily in the mix. He is a huge talent and just so "football fast" it's almost mind boggling. He's one of those guys that's track fast but on the footy field he jogs faster than most wingers sprint. I would love love love love him to be in the first grade side sometime this season. He will blow minds.
 

MacDougall

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Okay correction. BRET played today and he scored four tries. I think we know what needs to be done.
 

Tiger05

First Grade
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I want to see Grant in place of Lote.

1. Moltzen
2. Grant
3. Lawrence
4. Ryan
5. Utai
6. Sironen
7. Benji

Plenty of pace there. Benji and Sirro are the real concerns though - if they don't step up forget about this season.
 
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I don't have massive hopes for either of these players tbh.

I have watched rugby league since the late 70's, Marika Koroiebete is one of the best prospects I have ever seen. I have no doubts about his ability at all. He is lighting fast, knows the way to the try line and he is good in defence. He will go a long way in the NRL.
 

Ron's_Mate

Bench
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I want to see Grant in place of Lote.

1. Moltzen
2. Grant
3. Lawrence
4. Ryan
5. Utai
6. Sironen
7. Benji

Plenty of pace there. Benji and Sirro are the real concerns though - if they don't step up forget about this season.
If you want Benji at half you are on drugs.
For mine, Benji at 5/8 and Humble at half until we sign a decent half for next year. I haven't seen Grant or Koroiebete play so will have to take the word of those who have. Would love to see some fast young talent in our outside backs. In the meantime I'll be in the corner muttering to myself thanks to super coach.
 

Tiger05

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I'm happy with Benji at 7 but he has to run the ball. I don't care about the number on his jersey or if he predominately plays a little tighter. The problem is that he simply isn't running the ball.

It is a massive problem at the moment and as a Benji fan I think his play has been terrible the past couple of weeks and this has been his worst season in a long time.

Benji has to turn his season around and we also need the other backs to play well. Sirro was terrible against the Dogs. Lawrence was back into form but he has had an average season. Ryan is consistently good so I don't see him as an issue. Moltzen is pretty much our most elusive and quick outside back but he can be inconsistent - he needs to fire.

Too many backline players are simply inconsistent with Benji being the worst offender but I really don't think we are that far off if those players become consistent.

A backline with Grant, Lawrence, Moltzen and Benji has plenty of pace in it. Ryan is consistently good and Utai has been on fire all year. Sirro is a big guy and has shown that he can run the ball - he has to be given a specific role because he has also looked John Morris like at times. I suppose you could put Humble at 7 and Benji at 6 but Humble looks all over the place as well.
 
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innsaneink

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I dunno if Koro could handle the step up to NRL....at times he looks great in the 20's, at other times he looks like a fish out of water, reminds me of Peni tagive a bit....very unco...seems very panicky
 

madunit

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I'm happy with Benji at 7 but he has to run the ball. I don't care about the number on his jersey or if he predominately plays a little tighter. The problem is that he simply isn't running the ball.

It is a massive problem at the moment and as a Benji fan I think his play has been terrible the past couple of weeks and this has been his worst season in a long time.

Benji has to turn his season around and we also need the other backs to play well. Sirro was terrible against the Dogs. Lawrence was back into form but he has had an average season. Ryan is consistently good so I don't see him as an issue. Moltzen is pretty much our most elusive and quick outside back but he can be inconsistent - he needs to fire.

Too many backline players are simply inconsistent with Benji being the worst offender but I really don't think we are that far off if those players become consistent.

A backline with Grant, Lawrence, Moltzen and Benji has plenty of pace in it. Ryan is consistently good and Utai has been on fire all year. Sirro is a big guy and has shown that he can run the ball - he has to be given a specific role because he has also looked John Morris like at times. I suppose you could put Humble at 7 and Benji at 6 but Humble looks all over the place as well.
Well if you haven't realised, nor noticed it yet, you either have Benji at 7 who gives you what he's currently dishing up, or Benji at 6, who runs the ball.

He doesn't run the ball when at 7. It's just that simple and the stats back it up.

With Moltzen, Sironen and Anasta at the club next year as well as Benji, someone has to play 7 and Benji has to be in the halves.

So we're stuck with the prospect of Benji as 7 for next year as well.

Regarding Benji's defence. Pretty sure he favours his left shoulder and tries to hide his right in defence. Something he can't do when defending on the side of the field he currently is. Yet another reason to put him back at 6. He defends on his preferred side and defends better, and is able to get more space to actually create something and to run at the line.
 
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For the rest of the year, please, please, please and these selections are taking into account the Benji / Sheens factor:
1. Moltzen only because Benji said so,
2. Grant
3. Lawrence
4. Ryan
5. Utai
6. Marshall because that is where he should be playing. FULLSTOP
7. Humble
8. Woods
9. Farah
11. Ellis
12. Fulton but only the defensive one.
13. Bell

14. BMM
15. Blair but only Sheens has to play him
16. Moors but Sheen won't do it so it will be
16. Cashmere
17. Anyone but Reddy, can't see the point of having a backup hooker as well. Might be Ayshford as Moltzen will do his heartlidge some time.
 

macnaz

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Okay correction. BRET played today and he scored four tries. I think we know what needs to be done.

The last game i watched him play for BRET he touched the ball maybe 5 times and scored 3 and a metre of his 4th , all in just the half game he played
 

macnaz

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I dunno if Koro could handle the step up to NRL....at times he looks great in the 20's, at other times he looks like a fish out of water, reminds me of Peni tagive a bit....very unco...seems very panicky

Lol thats true i must say, yep he is raw but so is Uate i guess. Grant on the other i believe has a good footy brain. Id be happy with either.
 

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