New Franchises are cellar dwellers

[mean]

I know it's early days (competition wise and franchise establishment), but three out of the four new franchises aren't doing that well. Bottom of the table to be precise.

Common theme: all have bought in players. So much for developing the catchment areas. It shouldn't be the coaching because two of them have Prime Minister's scholarships and all three have over 10 years BC experience between them.

I guess that no identity to an organisation without any history is a recipe for failure, but time will tell. Nine weeks to be precise.

 

[nadera78]

Yes, how dare they not be successful after nine weeks of existence! A pox on them I say.

 

[carlnz]

Then you got two other new Franchise's sitting first and third. Considering there is only three points between fourth place and 10th place is pretty good.

Look at the Storm, i dont think anybody thought they would win a match. They have now won two matches plus a draw.

 

[Humphrey]

I know it's early days (competition wise and franchise establishment), but three out of the four new franchises aren't doing that well. Bottom of the table to be precise.

Common theme: all have bought in players. So much for developing the catchment areas. It shouldn't be the coaching because two of them have Prime Minister's scholarships and all three have over 10 years BC experience between them.

I guess that no identity to an organisation without any history is a recipe for failure, but time will tell. Nine weeks to be precise.

I agree with you mate not the other two pieces of "lets accept mediocrity and give them a participation certificate instead crap"

This compeition is the flag ship for the NZRL and Im sure the sponsors all expected a higher skilled competition especially with the reduction in franchises. The competition is after all only viable if its doing better than fine Cellar dwellers getting wacked by +20 points dont help the cause when your getting sponsorship the next season

AND Mean what the f**k is a Prime Ministers Scholarship? You mean our tax dollars are paying some of these blokes who dont appear to be able to coach a good sh*t?

 

[Humphrey]

Then you got two other new Franchise's sitting first and third. Considering there is only three points between fourth place and 10th place is pretty good.

Look at the Storm, i dont think anybody thought they would win a match. They have now won two matches plus a draw.

Woooohoooo two wins and a draw :roll: now theres something to write home about

 

[Humphrey]

Yes, how dare they not be successful after nine weeks of existence! A pox on them I say.

Start as you mean to go on my good mother used to say.

 

[nadera78]

It's a bit silly to decry something after only a couple of months. Give them some time for God's sake.

 

[Skinner]

It's a bit silly to decry something after only a couple of months. Give them some time for God's sake.

No - bollocks.. they are supposed to be the elite players, resident in
this country. How much time do they need.

 

[mean]

The only franchise that you can be a little sympathetic to is Northern. Harbour retains most of last years fourth placing team with some buy ins and Waitakere has a core group of players from the losing finalists Marist Richmond team a couple of years ago agin with buy ins.

If our competition is to be a mirror image of the Jim Beam Cup and Queensland Cup competitions, I'm sad to say that we're far from it. When teams are getting beaten by 30-40 points on prime tv, this demonstrates a huge disparity in the competition and insult to supporters and followers.

Bluey should never be allowed to coach in the domestic competition and John Ackland needs to sever his ties to Mt Albert. Congratulations to those guys who withstood Ackland's subtle persuasion to transfer to Mt Albert. And yes it does happen.

Too many players have gone chasing the $$ and this is represented in the bottom three teams. Some are overated and obviously their individual brilliance has not reflected towards their team's performance. Goes to show that money can't buy you everything.

As a sponsor, I'd be asking for a magnifying glass or money back. Unless you have a huge tv or projector you'd never know who was sponsoring a team.

And as a challenge, who can tell me the jersey sponsors of all the franchises or if not each franchise?

This is the weakest marketing I have seen in a National sporting code competition. The Northern Storm should be known as the "John Doe" Northern Storm etc. If franchises want money from sponsors, give them something tangible in return. Otherwise it' not a sponsorship, it's a donation. And you only make donations to charities. But then again, some of these teams need all the help that they can get!

 

[Humphrey]

What a sh*te game of footy the cellar dwellers gave Monday night telly. Both sides were pathetic and the referee was woeful. Poor all round vieiwng

 

[mean]

What a sh*te game of footy the cellar dwellers gave Monday night telly. Both sides were pathetic and the referee was woeful. Poor all round vieiwng

Northern deserved to lose for poor basic skills. And if there was any other franchise that Harbour was playing, there would be no pay day for them that night.

Ian McIntosh should be embarassed with that display of refereeing. You would be hoping that not many first time viewers switched over to or channel surfed to Monday nights game.

 

[carlnz]

I know it's early days (competition wise and franchise establishment), but three out of the four new franchises aren't doing that well. Bottom of the table to be precise.

Common theme: all have bought in players. So much for developing the catchment areas. It shouldn't be the coaching because two of them have Prime Minister's scholarships and all three have over 10 years BC experience between them.

I guess that no identity to an organisation without any history is a recipe for failure, but time will tell. Nine weeks to be precise.

Hmmm yeah i guess having the second to last team beat the top team last weekend which is a new team says nothing about the competition?

As for the game on Monday, what do you expect when the two bottom teams come together? In saying that this seasons competiton is rather close.

 

[Humphrey]

Yep just like the Warriors record one game and suddenly Waitakere are 'winners' and Auckland are "Losers"

 

[carlnz]

Yep just like the Warriors record one game and suddenly Waitakere are 'winners' and Auckland are "Losers"

No but when he was talking about three of the four new teams not doing so well and then one of them beats the top team - just proves that this years competition is very unpredictable. And the fact that any team can beat any other team. I am having a shocker in the tipping, apart from the Lions and Storm games

 

[AliN]

gees you think you're bad Carl!! Have you checked my tips lately, absolutely shocking

 

[carlnz]

gees you think you're bad Carl!! Have you checked my tips lately, absolutely shocking

Its great aye, last year you could pick the winners easy as. This year im struggling.

 

[brendothejet]

Guys It Sounds Like The Comp Is In Some Trouble Over There.

I Never Read Anything But Poor Crowds, Poor Quality Football And Bad Bad Bad.

This Worries Me.

Please Tell Me It Aint So.

 

[Skinner]

Guys It Sounds Like The Comp Is In Some Trouble Over There.

I Never Read Anything But Poor Crowds, Poor Quality Football And Bad Bad Bad.

This Worries Me.

Please Tell Me It Aint So.

No, not at all. It has never ever attracted large crowds, even when the
majority of the Auckland teams were club based. Now that they are franchise
based, it's slightly worse (I am only speaking for Auckland as I don't really
know the crowd figures outside).

As far as quality goes, it is probably about mid table Jim Beam Cup standard.
Not high, but certainly not where it should be. Others may argue differently,
but for mine, the comp has never matched the intensity of it's inaugural
season. Then, it was PL standard - it's just fallen away since.

Cheers
Skinner

 

[Kingbunny]

As far as quality goes, it is probably about mid table Jim Beam Cup standard.
Not high, but certainly not where it should be. Others may argue differently,
but for mine, the comp has never matched the intensity of it's inaugural
season. Then, it was PL standard - it's just fallen away since.

Do you think that the issue of the standard of play in the BC is due to the number of players leaving to go and play in Australia or else where in the RL playing world ?

I remember a figure of 100 to 150 players left New Zealand in one year.

If this is the case, then the question must be asked. How can we keep them here and lift the standard of play and get the public interested.