New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

[Wb1234]

Selling out a week in advance

the most popular rugby club in nz by a long way

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Selling out a week in advance

the most popular rugby club in nz by a long way

Does NZRU own the Christchurch Crusaders and Wellington Hurricanes?

If not then I would love to see them defect to the NRL. It would be the most ground shattering event since 1908.

 

[The Great Dane]

Does NZRU own the Christchurch Crusaders and Wellington Hurricanes?

If not then I would love to see them defect to the NRL. It would be the most ground shattering event since 1908.

I genuinely can't tell if you're being serious.

 

[MugaB]

Havn't you said previously that the clubs and the states will vote to decide? Now they dont care?

Yes this is all correct, they actually don't care as long as they get paid... Deeeerrrrrrrrrrppppp, how's about you troll that expansion Uturn thread and plead your hopeless case thru the LU ranks.... your just wasting your time pushing the perf case ahead of the other "Actual" bids

 

[SpaceMonkey]

There is opposition against a PNG team.

NRL coaches poll pushes rival expansion bid over PNG, overhaul of player transfer system and crackdown on agents – The Roar

Paul Murray has already spoken against it on Sky News Australia.

Labor slammed over $600 million plan for NRL team in PNG

Sky News host Paul Murray has criticised the Labor government’s plan to spend $600 million on a NRL team in Papua New Guinea. “Oh it’s all of course about making sure China doesn’t make further pushes into the Pacific Region – rubbish,” Mr Murray said. “It’s about guaranteeing that the NRL...

www.skynews.com.au

Who the f**k cares what Paul Murray thinks

 

[Dark Corner]

I genuinely can't tell if you're being serious.

Why not...if I was a Elon Musk I be asking them to jump ship alongside the once known Rugby Union clubs in England, Wales and Scotland like Swansea, Cornwall and Borders.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

They need to turn the all blacks into a club side to be able to Match the wahs

What you say kind of has merit in the fact that the Warriors are basically a team representing the nation but get to do so 12 times a year at home instead of 6 and also provide national pride by beating Australian teams that we actually care about.

I hate the idea of travelling roadshow teams but honestly if it could ever work, the Warriors travelling NZ covering all major cities could pull it off.

I'm not advocating for this BTW, just saying it could work.

 

[MugaB]

Who the f**k cares what Paul Murray thinks

And to be honest this is the only article that get thrown up when anyone questions it, most of the mainstream media is either indifferent, or pro the pvl adgenda

 

[MugaB]

What you say kind of has merit in the fact that the Warriors are basically a team representing the nation but get to do so 12 times a year at home instead of 6 and also provide national pride by beating Australian teams that we actually care about.

I hate the idea of travelling roadshow teams but honestly if it could ever work, the Warriors travelling NZ covering all major cities could pull it off.

I'm not advocating for this BTW, just saying it could work.

Imagine two teams travelling around NZ

 

[Matiunz]

Does NZRU own the Christchurch Crusaders and Wellington Hurricanes?

If not then I would love to see them defect to the NRL. It would be the most ground shattering event since 1908.

Yes NZRU owns the NZ franchises including The Crusaders and The Hurricanes. ‘Christchurch’ Crusaders’ and ‘Wellington’ Hurricanes don’t exist all the clubs are multiple province models that don’t have a regional name before the mascot (similar to The Dolphins)

 

[Matiunz]

Does NZRU own the Christchurch Crusaders and Wellington Hurricanes?

If not then I would love to see them defect to the NRL. It would be the most ground shattering event since 1908.

Presuming you are serious..Just using the Hurricanes as an example why would they ‘defect’?
Currently the Franchise has 8 provincial partners to consider 3 of which are in the top division of NPC (let’s say NSW cup equivalent) to draw as feeders. Within each of those provincial partners there are dozens of club and school teams attached, a large number of those are amongst the top schoolboy Union teams in the country.
Conversely outside of Wellington which in itself has a struggling club scene the provinces have minimal clubs, and often only 1-2 teams max at those clubs. League is just not an option to play at schools in these regions also.
Just one of those Provinces (my home province for example) was a finalist in the NPC this year, has 2 strong schools regularly challenging for top nation school in Union, zero school league teams. On the club scene there are 6 league clubs with at most 3 grades- some teams only play 2-3 games a season due to defaults caused by lack of playing numbers.
Compare this to the Union club landscape which has 4 divisions of 10 clubs each with up multiple grades. This is typical of league outside of Auckland/Wellington/Canterbury.
Why would a franchise even entertain the idea give up these types of pathways and development systems as well as central funding?

 

[Wb1234]

Does NZRU own the Christchurch Crusaders and Wellington Hurricanes?

If not then I would love to see them defect to the NRL. It would be the most ground shattering event since 1908.

I can see a time down the track where the nzru defects itself and brings all its teams over with it

the collapse of club rugby union is irreversible

 

[Thatwasnthighref]

I can see a time down the track where the nzru defects itself and brings all its teams over with it

the collapse of club rugby union is irreversible

Now I know you're having a laugh...

 

[Canard]

Does NZRU own the Christchurch Crusaders and Wellington Hurricanes?

If not then I would love to see them defect to the NRL. It would be the most ground shattering event since 1908.

 

[Bukowski]

Yes this is all correct, they actually don't care as long as they get paid... Deeeerrrrrrrrrrppppp, how's about you troll that expansion Uturn thread and plead your hopeless case thru the LU ranks.... your just wasting your time pushing the perf case ahead of the other "Actual" bids

You changed your tune pretty quick. LOL trolling......

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Who the f**k cares what Paul Murray thinks

His viewers. They vote.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Presuming you are serious..Just using the Hurricanes as an example why would they ‘defect’?
Currently the Franchise has 8 provincial partners to consider 3 of which are in the top division of NPC (let’s say NSW cup equivalent) to draw as feeders. Within each of those provincial partners there are dozens of club and school teams attached, a large number of those are amongst the top schoolboy Union teams in the country.
Conversely outside of Wellington which in itself has a struggling club scene the provinces have minimal clubs, and often only 1-2 teams max at those clubs. League is just not an option to play at schools in these regions also.
Just one of those Provinces (my home province for example) was a finalist in the NPC this year, has 2 strong schools regularly challenging for top nation school in Union, zero school league teams. On the club scene there are 6 league clubs with at most 3 grades- some teams only play 2-3 games a season due to defaults caused by lack of playing numbers.
Compare this to the Union club landscape which has 4 divisions of 10 clubs each with up multiple grades. This is typical of league outside of Auckland/Wellington/Canterbury.
Why would a franchise even entertain the idea give up these types of pathways and development systems as well as central funding?

Super Rugby is a dying competition. Businessmen bail on dying businesses. It's not impossible for the ARLC to convince the board members of the Crusaders and Hurricanes to abandon these clubs and join new RL teams in Christchurch and Wellington. Let's say the teams are called the South Island Kea and Wellington Orcas. With the ARLC annual grant being so high there's never been a better time to set up new teams in New Zealand. It would be a huge blow to the NZRU to lose key businessmen to their competitor.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

I can see a time down the track where the nzru defects itself and brings all its teams over with it

the collapse of club rugby union is irreversible

The top down international model RU uses is killing the game. There's only so many times a year the national team can play. Without a strong club competition interest wanes.

 

[Wb1234]

The top down international model RU uses is killing the game. There's only so many times a year the national team can play. Without a strong club competition interest wanes.

Nz was one of the few healthy club comps they have and they killed it for super rugby

France and Japan are just rich peoples playthings

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Nz was one of the few healthy club comps they have and they killed it for super rugby

France and Japan are just rich peoples playthings

The French competition is bankrupting the RFU clubs.