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New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

Perth Red

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Yeh

And even with dud timeslots and most games not having a local team present nrl is slaying

More people are watching nrl games not involved the warriors in nz than people are watching nrl in Perth
5.2million - 2.4million

and you have no way of verifying that as we dont get a break down of Perth fox/Kayo audiences.
Around 650k watched on FTA over first 10 rounds in Perth. How many watched on Fox and Kayo you dont know.

Per head of population nearly as many people watched NRL just on FTA over first 10 rounds in Perth as watched on FTA and PTV in NZ. Got to love stats!
 

Wb1234

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5.2million - 2.4million

and you have no way of verifying that as we dont get a break down of Perth fox/Kayo audiences.
Around 650k watched on FTA over first 10 rounds in Perth. How many watched on Fox and Kayo you dont know.

Per head of population nearly as many people watched NRL just on FTA over first 10 rounds in Perth as watched on FTA and PTV in NZ. Got to love stats!
So nz has more than double the number of people than Perth/wa and all of them are already rugby fans ?

You’re really making the case for nz2 over Perth now aren’t you

Nrl 1.59 million viewers for ten rounds
Perth ???? 500k ???
 

Perth Red

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So nz has more than double the number of people than Perth/wa and all of them are already rugby fans ?

You’re really making the case for nz2 over Perth now aren’t you

Nrl 1.59 million viewers for ten rounds
Perth ???? 500k ???
sigh, I'll get my crayons out

NZ 1.59 million viewers in a population of 5.2million PTV and FTA
Perth 650k viewers in a population of 2.4million FTA ONLY

It's quite possible with PTV added to Perth that Perth got more viewers per head of population than NZ. But we will never know. But that wont stop you Im sure lol
 

Pippen94

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sigh, I'll get my crayons out

NZ 1.59 million viewers in a population of 5.2million PTV and FTA
Perth 650k viewers in a population of 2.4million FTA ONLY

It's quite possible with PTV added to Perth that Perth got more viewers per head of population than NZ. But we will never know. But that wont stop you Im sure lol

Perth does less than 10k for regular season FTA matches
 

Wb1234

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sigh, I'll get my crayons out

NZ 1.59 million viewers in a population of 5.2million PTV and FTA
Perth 650k viewers in a population of 2.4million FTA ONLY

It's quite possible with PTV added to Perth that Perth got more viewers per head of population than NZ. But we will never know. But that wont stop you Im sure lol
Perth games average 8k a game

And given the time zone many start during work hours
 

Wb1234

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Nz v Perth

1. Stadium (chch and Dunedin) > upgraded hbf park

2. Juniors nz2 over participation / Auskick numbers

3. Improve international competition …. Nz2

4. Perth ??? Win internet arguments over afl fans

5 bring back bears and flow on growth of rugby league on the north shore

Nz 3 Perth 2
 

Gobsmacked

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This post is comedy gold, which is par for the course I guess.

You've been posting articles about increasing league participation mainly based on women's numbers for two years now. As has been pointed out to you many times numbers have been increasing for women in both codes and that's a good thing, not something to have a shitfight about. Mana wahine bro.

The increase in player numbers across the board is a good thing regardless of how you feel about, as will be any increase in league numbers at the community level when the stats are released.

Surely one of your two Kiwi multis is a fan of seeing increased participation in sport across both codes?
I've been posting articles based mainly on women's participation for 2 years?
And it's been pointed out to me many times?
My 2 kiwi multis?

I love your little support group by the way. Very cute .

I guess I'll just get back to the usual.. posting articles about women's player numbers lol
 

Perth Red

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Perth games average 8k a game

And given the time zone many start during work hours
hahah 8k x 8 games x 10 rounds = 640k. Its quite feasible that NRL games avg 10k+ on kayo/fox, (I havent watched an NRL game on ch9 since Fox got all the games) that gives perth's tv audience a total audience of 1.45million for 10 rounds. Well above NZ per head of population. NZ is only avg 19.8k a game PTV/FTA combined (on that total number) in a population more than double Perth's. And thats with an NRL team.
 

Perth Red

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Nz v Perth

1. Stadium (chch and Dunedin) > upgraded hbf park

2. Juniors nz2 over participation / Auskick numbers

3. Improve international competition …. Nz2

4. Perth ??? Win internet arguments over afl fans

5 bring back bears and flow on growth of rugby league on the north shore

Nz 3 Perth 2
200k Bears members + 50k Perth members, we got this lol
 

Vlad59

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hahah 8k x 8 games x 10 rounds = 640k. Its quite feasible that NRL games avg 10k+ on kayo/fox, (I havent watched an NRL game on ch9 since Fox got all the games) that gives perth's tv audience a total audience of 1.45million for 10 rounds. Well above NZ per head of population. NZ is only avg 19.8k a game PTV/FTA combined (on that total number) in a population more than double Perth's. And thats with an NRL team.
Stats are one of his weak points. One of many.
 

Wb1234

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hahah 8k x 8 games x 10 rounds = 640k. Its quite feasible that NRL games avg 10k+ on kayo/fox, (I havent watched an NRL game on ch9 since Fox got all the games) that gives perth's tv audience a total audience of 1.45million for 10 rounds. Well above NZ per head of population. NZ is only avg 19.8k a game PTV/FTA combined (on that total number) in a population more than double Perth's. And thats with an NRL team.
Your making up bs numbers

People say I’m a Pvl fan boy and I think he’s nuts adding a Perth team ahead of nz2 or even Ipswich

The future of the nrl is international expansion and international games
 

Vlad59

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hahah 8k x 8 games x 10 rounds = 640k. Its quite feasible that NRL games avg 10k+ on kayo/fox, (I havent watched an NRL game on ch9 since Fox got all the games) that gives perth's tv audience a total audience of 1.45million for 10 rounds. Well above NZ per head of population. NZ is only avg 19.8k a game PTV/FTA combined (on that total number) in a population more than double Perth's. And thats with an NRL team.
You are correct re fta v kayo/fox. It’s the same here and Melbourne. One clear reason was we had to get fox to watch any live nrl in the first place.
 

Matua

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I don’t think there are many subscribers just for super rugby no

If it was warriors v super rugby clubs then it’s warriors

Whatever subscriber numbers there are the deal will go down by around half

That’s currently 40 percent of the nzru revenue

Turns out gobs was right all along

And unlike Union nrl has the prospect of a second nz side which will see ratings boom

And if you are actually trying to argue 10 pm is a better time slot than 8 or 6 heaven help me

What happens when games overlap ? Who is watching what
How on earth do you come up with this stuff? The Warriors audience is majority a cross over from the rugby. It's not a bigger individual subscription base all on it's own, that is utter delusion.

And again you're discussing this on the back of one and a half good years of Warriors performances, there really is no guarantee the interest will continue.

No one was arguing 10pm is a better slot than 8 or 6, however it's a good lead in, so for example a game between Cronulla and Newcastle is likely to get more viewers than otherwise if it was competing with a rugby match. You seem to like intentionally missing the point. When games overlap the rugby will be watched unless it's the Warriors, an NRL game between Cronulla and Newcastle isn't going to have more viewers than a Super match. .
 

Pippen94

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You are correct re fta v kayo/fox. It’s the same here and Melbourne. One clear reason was we had to get fox to watch any live nrl in the first place.

Vast majority of NRL fans live in northern states. That's where most kayo viewers come from. The one time Wookie had numbers on this that's what it showed.
 

Perth Red

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Your making up bs numbers

People say I’m a Pvl fan boy and I think he’s nuts adding a Perth team ahead of nz2 or even Ipswich

The future of the nrl is international expansion and international games
hahah you are the one making claims without data to back it up. Face it you dont know how many people watched the opening 10 rounds of NRL in Perth so you cant possibly say more watched it in NZ, especially when you add context to the data and compare per head of population and the fact Perth doesnt have a club. Its not a big difference in tv audience in all likelihood and could well see more people in Perth watching once a club is established and the game is rejuvenated here.
 

Vlad59

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How on earth do you come up with this stuff? The Warriors audience is majority a cross over from the rugby. It's not a bigger individual subscription base all on it's own, that is utter delusion.

And again you're discussing this on the back of one and a half good years of Warriors performances, there really is no guarantee the interest will continue.

No one was arguing 10pm is a better slot than 8 or 6, however it's a good lead in, so for example a game between Cronulla and Newcastle is likely to get more viewers than otherwise if it was competing with a rugby match. You seem to like intentionally missing the point. When games overlap the rugby will be watched unless it's the Warriors, an NRL game between Cronulla and Newcastle isn't going to have more viewers than a Super match. .
Never argue with an idiot. WB is in an idiot class all of his own.
 

Wb1234

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How on earth do you come up with this stuff? The Warriors audience is majority a cross over from the rugby. It's not a bigger individual subscription base all on it's own, that is utter delusion.

And again you're discussing this on the back of one and a half good years of Warriors performances, there really is no guarantee the interest will continue.

No one was arguing 10pm is a better slot than 8 or 6, however it's a good lead in, so for example a game between Cronulla and Newcastle is likely to get more viewers than otherwise if it was competing with a rugby match. You seem to like intentionally missing the point. When games overlap the rugby will be watched unless it's the Warriors, an NRL game between Cronulla and Newcastle isn't going to have more viewers than a Super match. .
So many games overlap and still the nrl is getting bigger ratings with only one nz team vs five nz super rugby teams

The elephant in the room is the collapse of super rugby pacific

It’s not a viable competition and until they bring back South Africa it will continue bleeding

If super rugby retains its current format then league will just keep growing even without a second nz side

God forbid a second nz side is well managed the ratings would be off the charts
 

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