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[Wb1234]

I am talking the $570m bullshit you seem to want to use.

That’s the new deal which hasn’t even started yet

The previous deals were essentially the same

Maths doesn’t compute

 

[Wb1234]

Actually you could be closer to the money taking out Telstra cash their tv deal is probably less than 500 million on a cash basis

 

[Perth Red]

There was an $80m jump in that category last year. $50m for TV seems reasonable

There was a $76mill uplift in that revenue line.
I suspect something else has been added into that line, or gambling has jumped massively for some reason.

Why?

Well we know Ch9 arent paying anything extra. We know Sky NZ are paying around $10mill cash extra

so that would leave the Fox deal to have jumped $50-$65mill cash depending on revenue performance in merch, gambling, digital. Possible but is it likely given Vlandys 'cant catch a cold' comments? All we heard was Fox was adding in an extra $20mill for Dolphins.

 

[Perth Red]

Actually you could be closer to the money taking out Telstra cash their tv deal is probably less than 500 million on a cash basis

You think Telstra are paying $70mill+ cash? Weren't you saying back when that Telstra's was all contra?

 

[Wb1234]

You think Telstra are paying $70mill+ cash? Weren't you saying back when that Telstra's was all contra?

Not all contra no

Taking out tv contra and all the Telstra then yeh on a cash basis it’s under 500 million

We should beat that

Telstra should be worth 30 million cash for them imo

 

[Iamback]

There was a $76mill uplift in that revenue line.
I suspect something else has been added into that line, or gambling has jumped massively for some reason.

Why?

Well we know Ch9 arent paying anything extra. We know Sky NZ are paying around $10mill cash extra

so that would leave the Fox deal to have jumped $50-$65mill cash depending on revenue performance in merch, gambling, digital. Possible but is it likely given Vlandys 'cant catch a cold' comments? All we heard was Fox was adding in an extra $20mill for Dolphins.

The last deal was reported as $1.8bn. This as $2b

There is a $50m per year difference in the reporting matches the figures released

 

[Iamback]

That’s the new deal which hasn’t even started yet

The previous deals were essentially the same

Maths doesn’t compute

1 was a long term deal

1 was a short term reduced deal..

Surely you can tell the difference?

 

[Wb1234]

1 was a long term deal

1 was a short term reduced deal..

Surely you can tell the difference?

Can’t tell what point you are making there

The afl deal had less covid reductions than the nrl did and their revised deal was decent for them

You’ve just said the afl are getting 470 million and you said a few days ago you expected the nrl to get 500 million

You know that means more than the afl

Lmao

 

[Iamback]

Can’t tell what point you are making there

The afl deal had less covid reductions than the nrl did and their revised deal was decent for them

You’ve just said the afl are getting 470 million and you said a few days ago you expected the nrl to get 500 million

You know that means more than the afl

Lmao

No one knows that is the thing. I said up to that much based on some guesswork.

even if NRL gets $450m that is still on par with the gap that has always existed for reasons mentioned.

We are adding PNG and NZ 2 not teams in the US that adds huge money to the pot.

PNG is likely a token tv amount and a lack of competition in NZ are going to hurt

Unless DAZN buys fox and wants to pay for International rights aswell.

DAZN bidding against SkyNZ would be helpful

 

[Wb1234]

No one knows that is the thing. I said up to that much based on some guesswork.

even if NRL gets $450m that is still on par with the gap that has always existed for reasons mentioned.

We are adding PNG and NZ 2 not teams in the US that adds huge money to the pot.

PNG is likely a token tv amount and a lack of competition in NZ are going to hurt

Unless DAZN buys fox and wants to pay for International rights aswell.

DAZN bidding against SkyNZ would be helpful

We would’ve got 450 million without adding any new teams

If 3 teams doesnt add at least 50 million pa to the tv deals (nz and maybe even png) then why bother diluting the payments to clubs with 3 extra mouths to feed

I don’t even think 500 million is a good result for the nrl if stan is bidding against Fox

 

[Matt_CBY]

lol

Does anyone have the full article to this?

 

[Iamback]

We would’ve got 450 million without adding any new teams

If 3 teams doesnt add at least 50 million pa to the tv deals (nz and maybe even png) then why bother diluting the payments to clubs with 3 extra mouths to feed

I don’t even think 500 million is a good result for the nrl if stan is bidding against Fox

but again look at where the 3 teams are. Networks will lose money broadcasting from PNG.

Especially if they drop the games down. It isn't like this current setup of 27 rounds and just adding 2 games a week.

In that situation yes but you have probably 22 rounds. You less of the big teams that rate well replaced by teams that cost more to broadcast, don't bring in subs for Australian networks.

NRLW is played out of primetime unless the season gets moved an expanded comp still is played on Sat mornings losing money because 2 networks show it and it has 1/4 the audience that it would in prime time getting prime time dollar from advertisers.

That is before we get to a lack of competition for the rights

 

[Wb1234]

but again look at where the 3 teams are. Networks will lose money broadcasting from PNG.

Especially if they drop the games down. It isn't like this current setup of 27 rounds and just adding 2 games a week.

In that situation yes but you have probably 22 rounds. You less of the big teams that rate well replaced by teams that cost more to broadcast, don't bring in subs for Australian networks.

NRLW is played out of primetime unless the season gets moved an expanded comp still is played on Sat mornings losing money because 2 networks show it and it has 1/4 the audience that it would in prime time getting prime time dollar from advertisers.

That is before we get to a lack of competition for the rights

Stan v Fox

2 extra games every round (eventually)

Women’s origin

U19 origin

Pacific cup

And then there’s potential for a tv deal with png and more money from sky nz