Next TV deal discussion 2028 -

[The_Wookie]

Ads don’t mean much to pay tv

According to this guy, it pays for production costs.

Advertising covers the production costs.

Not to mention Foxtel probably disagrees given it rates a decent mention in quarterly reports.

Advertising on our streaming platforms rose over 45% and accounted for over 40% of Foxtel’s advertising revenues, with notable strength at Kayo, our sports streaming service.

All about ratings and subscribers

Maybe you should do a little more research before commenting in future.

 

[Iamback]

Maybe you should do a little more research before commenting in future.

The fool tried to argue loss of revenue doesn't affect FTA networks.

I'd say putting the drugs away is step 1 here

 

[Pippen94]

The fool tried to argue loss of revenue doesn't affect FTA networks.

I'd say putting the drugs away is step 1 here

..makes the things that bring ratings more valuable.

 

[Wb1234]

According to this guy, it pays for production costs.



Not to mention Foxtel probably disagrees given it rates a decent mention in quarterly reports.





Maybe you should do a little more research before commenting in future.

Is this the kind of stuff you post on “sports” industry

Probably why so many people see it as biased I guess

 

[Wb1234]

The fool tried to argue loss of revenue doesn't affect FTA networks.

I'd say putting the drugs away is step 1 here

When the nrl gets a blockbuster deal you are going to look like an even bigger fool if that’s possible

I was posting on Twitter how there’s a few afl fans who think Dazn won’t be bidding for the nrl.

That got a lot of laughs

You and your mate are pretty much the only people I see who think the nrl will get a poor tv deal

 

[Vlad59]

Is this the kind of stuff you post on “sports” industry

Probably why so many people see it as biased I guess

If you taken a few less substances when younger you might not write such utter rubbish. His posts here make you look like a rank amateur. Which you are.

 

[Vlad59]

When the nrl gets a blockbuster deal you are going to look like an even bigger fool if that’s possible

I was posting on Twitter how there’s a few afl fans who think Dazn won’t be bidding for the nrl.

That got a lot of laughs

You and your mate are pretty much the only people I see who think the nrl will get a poor tv deal

Mate you have absolutely no credibility. You just make crap up.

 

[The_Wookie]

Is this the kind of stuff you post on “sports” industry

Not sure why you need to ask, you clearly read it.
But yes for some reason posts with facts irritate people like you.

Probably why so many people see it as biased I guess

Im followed by over 8,000 people on twitter. I cant be held responsible for what every single people see as biased. Pick any given day, and Im either anti football, anti league or anti afl depending on the poster.

 

[Vlad59]

The fool tried to argue loss of revenue doesn't affect FTA networks.

I'd say putting the drugs away is step 1 here

His response? A laughing emoji. It’s his stock standard way of failing to answer legitimate criticism. Keep away from drugs kiddies.

 

[Vlad59]

Not sure why you need to ask, you clearly read it.
But yes for some reason posts with facts irritate people like you.



Im followed by over 8,000 people on twitter. I cant be held responsible for what every single people see as biased. Pick any given day, and Im either anti football, anti league or anti afl depending on the poster.

You annoy him. I love it.

 

[Iamback]

..makes the things that bring ratings more valuable.

Now we are getting somewhere.

How many ads would of been played in the GF which had 4 tries scored?

10-20 at halftime plus the 4 after a try

3.4m people watched it which is great.

If look earlier when the commercials would of been played

The NRLW drew 600k

The News about 1m.

Pre game 1.7m
Post game 1.6m

You aren't selling the commercial space in the pre show to companies with the 3.4m figure. You are using the one that is a 1/4 of that for the NRLW.

50% figure for the pre and post game.

Now add in a run of the mil NRL game where you are looking at 1/3 of the audience being on another Network.

Where is the value on FTA?

hence why the FTA games should be only on FTA. That makes them more valuable and hence NRL can get higher money

 

[Wb1234]

Not sure why you need to ask, you clearly read it.
But yes for some reason posts with facts irritate people like you.



Im followed by over 8,000 people on twitter. I cant be held responsible for what every single people see as biased. Pick any given day, and Im either anti football, anti league or anti afl depending on the poster.

8000 wow

Bet those monthly payments of 5 bucks from Elon musk sure ad up.

 

[Wb1234]

The media storm behind the NRL’s next billion-dollar play

Peter V’landys and his chief executive Andrew Abdo want a mammoth broadcast deal to shore up the code’s future. Will they bring an NFL-style model to Australia?

www.afr.com

 

[Pippen94]

Now we are getting somewhere.

How many ads would of been played in the GF which had 4 tries scored?

10-20 at halftime plus the 4 after a try

3.4m people watched it which is great.

If look earlier when the commercials would of been played

The NRLW drew 600k

The News about 1m.

Pre game 1.7m
Post game 1.6m

You aren't selling the commercial space in the pre show to companies with the 3.4m figure. You are using the one that is a 1/4 of that for the NRLW.

50% figure for the pre and post game.

Now add in a run of the mil NRL game where you are looking at 1/3 of the audience being on another Network.

Where is the value on FTA?

hence why the FTA games should be only on FTA. That makes them more valuable and hence NRL can get higher money

Back to what I was saying: tv rights increases have accelerated with declining tv viewership. NBA & other leagues make more than ever at time tv is probably making less than ever.

 

[The_Wookie]

8000 wow

Bet those monthly payments of 5 bucks from Elon musk sure ad up.

If only i was in it for the money. Also: its $22 lol

 

[Pippen94]

Not sure why you need to ask, you clearly read it.
But yes for some reason posts with facts irritate people like you.



Im followed by over 8,000 people on twitter. I cant be held responsible for what every single people see as biased. Pick any given day, and Im either anti football, anti league or anti afl depending on the poster.

..but you've probably been called pro AFL many more times I bet

 

[The_Wookie]

..but you've probably been called pro AFL many more times I bet

Its true - not helped by my commentary on Carlton games when those matches are on., but it depends on the nature and quantity of the available information - I get more media releases from the AFL and Seven than any other code and broadcaster.

Also the fun tendency of people to believe that if im not talking about their code when making a post automatically reflects bias.

 

[Wb1234]

Channel Seven offers $150 million to wrestle State of Origin from Nine

The current rights holder is under pressure from its biggest rival, with a $150million deal reportedly on the table to take Origin rights to a new home after network chiefs met with Peter V'landys last week.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Seven and Foxsports previously bid 30 million pa for the origin series. With women’s origin booming and under 19 origin taking off what could this be worth now ?

Fox getting origin would be huge for them and I think it would grow ratings a lot

If they offered something like 60 to 80 million pa then that could be a game changer

That would leave nine to get the nrl comp plus finals for as little as 60 to 80 million which is almost half what afl get

A bargain

 

[Iamback]

Back to what I was saying: tv rights increases have accelerated with declining tv viewership. NBA & other leagues make more than ever at time tv is probably making less than ever.

I agree TV will never make a profit off sports rights. It is what is an acceptable loss, or in the case of Amazon how much can you increase your sales as a result of the sport.

ESPN has had ratings fall. The NBA put it to other factors but beyond ratings

Disney own ESPN and have bundled streaming and get whole families to target with their ads not just kids.

As such made $47m up to August. The shared Ad revenue, streamlined back of house setup makes that possible. If their 3 streaming services were seperate that isn't the case

That covers for the loss of ratings on the cable side of the business.

 

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The situation as stated in today`s SMH:

"And while DAZN has a record of investing in domestic sports rights in major markets such as Japan, Germany and France, the likes of the NRL’s Peter V’Landys and the AFL’s Andrew Dillon may eventually appear too small fry for the streamer now cosying up with FIFA boss Gianni Infantino and oil-rich Saudis.

"Those behind the deal at DAZN say the company’s resolve for the NRL and its like, which is about to kick off broadcast negotiations for the 2027 season and beyond, has only strengthened, but V’Landys may have to adjust expectations for a bumper deal in the region the AFL managed to land in 2022."

So they are interested, just a question of how much they`ll pay and how desperate Nine/Stan and 10/ Paramount are.
We might be relying on the two FTA broadcasters to get a decent bid out of DAZN.

They are hardly going to come out and declare they will pay the nrl whatever they want… fact is whether it’s owned by fox or dazn the market dynamics are largely the same, without the nrl they lose hundreds of thousands of subscribers that help subsidise the existing contracts with afl & cricket.