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[The_Wookie]

Afl*1.5 = nrl

Based on nothing more than feelings. Theres no data to support that.

 

[Vlad59]

Based on nothing more than feelings. Theres no data to support that.

Or any thing else he posts

 

[Wb1234]

Based on nothing more than feelings. Theres no data to support that.

50 percent higher ratings on average. So unless you are arguing Foxsports has hundreds of thousands of people who pay for a subscription but don’t watch afl. games then it’s clear what higher ratings shows

Plus afl sells Foxsports so many dud games which are shown on fta in local markets

Don’t need to be a subscriber if you want to watch your team as all the games are shown in the local market for free

Nrl games are mostly exclusive

You would think someone that runs a website dedicated to ratings would know this

 

[Wb1234]

Well how do you work it out dickhead?

Yes. I have said I watch NRL, Cricket, F1, NHL, NBA and NFL.

Nrl games on Fox / kayo average 150k more per game than afl

Either it’s more subscribers for nrl or you have hundreds of thousands of afl fans paying for a subscription but not watching it

lol

You’ve literally got some afl games that get ratings on par with a league or super rugby ie under 100k

 

[Vlad59]

50 percent higher ratings on average. So unless you are arguing Foxsports has hundreds of thousands of people who pay for a subscription but don’t watch afl. games then it’s clear what higher ratings shows

Plus afl sells Foxsports so many dud games which are shown on fta in local markets

Don’t need to be a subscriber if you want to watch your team as all the games are shown in the local market for free

Nrl games are mostly exclusive

You would think someone that runs a website dedicated to ratings would know this

Ffs this has all been explained to you so many times. You just write endless one eyed biased crap. You have absolutely no credibility here by the way. There are some good interesting posters on this thread. Then there is you.

 

[Iamback]

50 percent higher ratings on average. So unless you are arguing Foxsports has hundreds of thousands of people who pay for a subscription but don’t watch afl. games then it’s clear what higher ratings shows

Plus afl sells Foxsports so many dud games which are shown on fta in local markets

Don’t need to be a subscriber if you want to watch your team as all the games are shown in the local market for free

Nrl games are mostly exclusive

You would think someone that runs a website dedicated to ratings would know this

I attend games unlike you.

When you this you miss the game before.
you come home and watch the game before.

When the ratings come out the next day watching that doesn't count.

So ratings alone don't tell the full story

 

[Wb1234]

I attend games unlike you.

When you this you miss the game before.
you come home and watch the game before.

When the ratings come out the next day watching that doesn't count.

So ratings alone don't tell the full story

Your emotional replies are a sign of a weak argument

Plus I’ve been to way more games than you

Why not try and make an intelligent reply to my post

How does nrl average 150k more per game if it doesn’t have more subscribers ?

Why would lots of people subscribe to fox when all their games are shown locally for free ?

If I had to guess it’s a Melbourne club isn’t it rather than the swans ?

 

[Vlad59]

I attend games unlike you.

When you this you miss the game before.
you come home and watch the game before.

When the ratings come out the next day watching that doesn't count.

So ratings alone don't tell the full story

Fox obviously values afl content. Games go longer. More advertising. More content. Shit game in my view but it’s obviously worth their while investing in it.

 

[Vlad59]

Your emotional replies are a sign of a weak argument

Plus I’ve been to way more games than you

Why not try and make an intelligent reply to my post

How does nrl average 150k more per game if it doesn’t have more subscribers ?

Why would lots of people subscribe to fox when all their games are shown locally for free ?

If I had to guess it’s a Melbourne club isn’t it rather than the swans ?

You told us earlier this year you didn’t go to games. You then told us you’d been to 1000. That’s 25 games a year over 40 years. You make shit up.

 

[Iamback]

Nrl games on Fox / kayo average 150k more per game than afl

Either it’s more subscribers for nrl or you have hundreds of thousands of afl fans paying for a subscription but not watching it

lol

You’ve literally got some afl games that get ratings on par with a league or super rugby ie under 100k

You have been told the answer but I will play along.

The games clash.

Ratings are done by people watching the channel directly. Those who watch the tiles don't get counted.

So if more are watch later it has the numbers closer. Only Fox has these figures

 

[The_Wookie]

50 percent higher ratings on average.

stop talking out your backside.

Foxtel group reported the entire Foxtel (STB/Stream) NRL average at 483,000 just before finals, and the AFL average at 397,000 just before finals. that will have changed somewhat during the finals series where the AFL finals rated significantly higher than the NRL ones (at least on streaming data, but we know from history it does on STB as well).

Either way, on Foxtel Groups reported data the difference is 22%. and more than made up by the 30-40% time differential - average viewership watching much longer, which affects advertising income streams.

So unless you are arguing Foxsports has hundreds of thousands of people who pay for a subscription but don’t watch afl. games then it’s clear what higher ratings shows

Im saying that its possible to watch more than one game if you are a supporter. Especially with products like Super Saturday - the AFL gets this from 2025.

Its like the cricket, few people watch an entire test match, but the sessions rate higher than AFL and NRL matches at times.

 

[Wb1234]

You have been told the answer but I will play along.

The games clash.

Ratings are done by people watching the channel directly. Those who watch the tiles don't get counted.

So if more are watch later it has the numbers closer. Only Fox has these figures

So games clashing vs a sport where no games clash

Wonder which one is worth more to a pay tv network

 

[Wb1234]

stop talking out your backside.

Foxtel group reported the entire Foxtel (STB/Stream) NRL average at 483,000 just before finals, and the AFL average at 397,000 just before finals. that will have changed somewhat during the finals series where the AFL finals rated significantly higher than the NRL ones (at least on streaming data, but we know from history it does on STB as well).

Either way, on Foxtel Groups reported data the difference is 22%. and more than made up by the 30-40% time differential - average viewership watching much longer, which affects advertising income streams.



Im saying that its possible to watch more than one game if you are a supporter. Especially with products like Super Saturday - the AFL gets this from 2025.

Its like the cricket, few people watch an entire test match, but the sessions rate higher than AFL and NRL matches at times.

Weak argument

Time differential is basically irrelevant to pay tv

It’s all about the subscribers and ratings

Afl has games overlapping and games shown in local markets for free

It’s basically a rubbish product compared to the nrl with so many exclusive and non overlapping games

 

[The_Wookie]

Nrl games on Fox / kayo average 150k more per game than afl

Again this is horseshit. The average difference is 86,000 per Foxtel Group.

Either it’s more subscribers for nrl or you have hundreds of thousands of afl fans paying for a subscription but not watching it

Or people watch more than one game.

lol

You’ve literally got some afl games that get ratings on par with a league or super rugby ie under 100k

You got Aleague or Super Rugby tv ratings to hand? STAN and Paramount arent being forthcoming.

 

[Wb1234]

Again this is horseshit. The average difference is 86,000 per Foxtel Group.



Or people watch more than one game.



You got Aleague or Super Rugby tv ratings to hand? STAN and Paramount arent being forthcoming.

Someone should explain to you what the concept of an average means

Bs all you want many afl games get ratings which are in the toilet and on par with the minor sports in Australia

Getting ratings under 100k for a “national” sport is embarrassing

 

[The_Wookie]

Weak argument

Your argument was based on entirely made up information to begin with. Not sure how you call anyone out for being anything on this board. Time and time again you completely falsify and invent information that can literally be disproven by anyone with google.

Time differential is basically irrelevant to pay tv

It’s all about the subscribers and ratings

You say it, but Foxtels reports dont agree.

Afl has games overlapping and games shown in local markets for free

It’s basically a rubbish product compared to the nrl with so many exclusive and non overlapping games

Yes the AFL is rubbish because it caters to its fans.

 

[Iamback]

Fox obviously values afl content. Games go longer. More advertising. More content. Shit game in my view but it’s obviously worth their while investing in it.

That and golf I can't see how people watch but those making the decisions. Are in that position because they can keep opinions out of it. They follow the cash

 

[Wb1234]

Your argument was based on entirely made up information to begin with. Not sure how you call anyone out for being anything on this board. Time and time again you completely falsify and invent information that can literally be disproven by anyone with google.



You say it, but Foxtels reports dont agree.



Yes the AFL is rubbish because it caters to its fans.

Catering to crowds means games overlap and are rubbish for the pay tv network that covers it

Nrl has tailored its game to not overlap to give maximum benefit to pay tv

That’s why nrl is essential for any pay tv network whilst afl is just a filler for them

 

[The_Wookie]

Someone should explain to you what the concept of an average means

I know what averages are. I literally posted the Fox data for you since you dont have a f**king clue what it actually is.

Bs all you want many afl games get ratings which are in the toilet and on par with the minor sports in Australia

Given you literally just posted bullshit information in two posts, you really dont have any right to call anything anyone bs.

Getting ratings under 100k for a “national” sport is embarrassing

yeah if only that was the entirety of our existence as a sport.

 

[The_Wookie]

Catering to crowds means games overlap and are rubbish for the pay tv network that covers it

And on the other hand it means people go to matches at twice the rate they do NRL ones.

Nrl has tailored its game to not overlap to give maximum benefit to pay tv

Thats great. I mean it doesnt seem to have helped much from a revenue standpoint, but good gor the,.