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Perth Red

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Wb1234 said:
And we’ve all been assuming Perth averages 14k a game

It’s almost half that figure
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The viewing figures are all over the place, what few we can see. We have no idea of Kayo/Fox audience in Perth, the FTA figures fluctuate from 6k-20k with SOO and Gf getting 100k+. The data collection method means when you get to small numbers they are hugely unreliable. They no longer report on city reach at all so impossible to say what they are since 2023 on FTA
Is RL in Perth huge? No.
Is there a core following despite decades of neglect? Yes.
Is it possible we could see figures jump up to around 25k a game plus more when the Perth team is playing? yes.
Would that add around 2-3million to the total audience? Yes

For an NRl fan you seem somewhat pessimistic about this good outcome. Swannies anyone?
 
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Perth Red said:
The viewing figures are all over the place, what few we can see. We have no idea of Kayo/Fox audience in Perth, the FTA figures fluctuate from 6k-20k with SOO and Gf getting 100k+. The data collection method means when you get to small numbers they are hugely unreliable. They no longer report on city reach at all so impossible to say what they are now and in the future.
Is RL in Perth huge? No.
Is there a core following despite decades of neglect? Yes.
Is it possible we could see figures jump up to around 25k a game plus more when the Perth team is playing? yes.
Would that add around 2-3million to the total audience? Yes

For an NRl fan you seem somewhat pessimistic about this good outcome. Swannies anyone?
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That post is one hot mess of bs

Maybe a Perth nrl team can grow the numbers by 25 percent to 10k per game
 
Perth Red

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Wb1234 said:
That post is one hot mess of bs

Maybe a Perth nrl team can grow the numbers by 25 percent to 10k per game
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You're full of BS as usual. There is no way of knowing what the Perth FTA or PTV audience is for 2024 or any following year as they arent published. But you be you lol

Last time I reviewed it the perth avg was 12k in 2023 and when you added in Origin, finals and Gf it was over 14k. Lowest was 6,000 and highest was 21k for a regular season game.

Come on give us a laugh and tell us where you have got this 6k avg figure from?
 
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Perth Red said:
You're full of BS as usual. There is no way of knowing what the Perth FTA or PTV audience is for 2024 or any following year as they arent published. But you be you lol

Last time I reviewed it the perth avg was 12k in 2023 and when you added in Origin, finals and Gf it was over 14k. Lowest was 6,000 and highest was 21k for a regular season game.

Come on give us a laugh and tell us where you have got this 6k avg figure from?
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Sound like the kind of numbers one small remote village in png would get now
 
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Perth Red said:
you sound like a triggered AFL fan at the prospect of a Perth NRL club coming in and being successful? Your Swans colours showing through a bit maybe?
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think he is pointing out that you were wrong about figures. i saids they were bad but didnt realise that were that bad. but ya kept arguing against it.

thewest.com.au

WA’s appetite for NRL side questioned after poor ratings

Western Australia’s appetite for NRL has been called into question, with TV ratings analysis showing fewer than 6000 people on average watched some weekend games last year in the State.
thewest.com.au thewest.com.au

perthwrongs, ding dong
 
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SirPies&Beers said:
think he is pointing out that you were wrong about figures. i saids they were bad but didnt realise that were that bad. but ya kept arguing against it.

thewest.com.au

WA’s appetite for NRL side questioned after poor ratings

Western Australia’s appetite for NRL has been called into question, with TV ratings analysis showing fewer than 6000 people on average watched some weekend games last year in the State.
thewest.com.au thewest.com.au

perthwrongs, ding dong
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Those figures are embarrassing

More people will be watching the bears in Mosman than all of wa
 
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State of Origin could be sold off separately in next TV deal​

The NRL is considering dividing up its top broadcast assets, including the marquee State of Origin series, and offering them to streaming services for the first time after declaring the game has become Australia’s top-rating sport.

At Friday’s annual general meeting, at which it trumpeted a $62.3 million operating surplus, the NRL claimed to have 10 per cent more eyeballs than the AFL after cracking the 200 million viewership mark for the first time in history.
It’s the fourth successive year the governing body posted a surplus since COVID, totalling $226.5 million over the period. There has also been a total revenue increase of $43.7 million to a new high of $744.9 million.
The NRL has long been in a battle with the AFL for the mantle of Australia’s top football code and the 13-man game has boasted a viewership victory. The NRL claims to have a cumulative match viewership over all competitions of 200.5 million in 2024 – comprising 186.8 million Australian viewers and 13.7 million from New Zealand – to post a total 8.6 per cent higher than the previous year.

But perhaps the most interesting figures are the direct comparison between the NRL and AFL competitions.
Over 213 matches, the NRL has 153.7 million cumulative viewers, 10 per cent higher than the AFL’s mark of 140.3 million over 216 matches. Rugby league also claims to have 1.03 million participants, up 20.6 per cent on last year.
However, the AFL’s average game attendance of 38,344, according to Austadiums, is almost twice the 20,605 that the NRL posted last year.
Papua New Guinea will enter the competition as the NRL’s 18th team in 2028, giving the league an extra game to sell to broadcasters. The governing body declared a decision on whether a 20th team would be added – most likely in Perth – would be made within two months.
The Blues celebrate with the shield after last year’s epic series.

The Blues celebrate with the shield after last year’s epic series.Credit:Getty Images


Streaming services such as Netflix, Amazon and Paramount have shown an appetite for sporting content, prompting sporting leagues such as the NFL to divide its assets across a host of broadcasters.
Asked if a similar situation could occur in the NRL’s next TV rights cycle, ARLC chairman Peter V’landys said: “You’re a step ahead, that’s a possibility.
“We have to look at all formats and that’s one of them. The jewel in the crown is State of Origin and there’s other channels [interested]. Ideally we’d like it all in the one [package], but if you look at the NFL and how they do it, and they’re very successful, we’ll analyze it and watch it.
“Whatever maximises our return.
“There’s one important point which I need to make with broadcast, which a lot of sports don’t consider, and that’s the price point.

“We don’t want to make it unaffordable for our fans. We want to make sure whatever deal we do, that it’s affordable for the fan to buy a subscription because it’s a waste of time if you get all this money and your fans can’t watch your game.”
The NRL has made no secret of its desire to further its net asset base, which has grown by 24 per cent to $322.4 million. There has also been a conscious effort to help the game in England, by adding two English teams to this year’s Las Vegas venture and reviving season-ending Kangaroos tours to Great Britain. However, the Super League continues to struggle financially, prompting questions about whether the NRL would be prepared to purchase the competition.
ARLC chairman Peter V’landys.

ARLC chairman Peter V’landys.Credit:Kate Geraghty
“Never say never,” V’landys said. “That’s if they want us. The first thing is there’s always two people to an agreement. If they want us, we’ll certainly look at it.
“If they approached us, we’d certainly look at it. At this stage they haven’t approached us, but we’re a firm believer in having a strong game in England and we’re a firm believer in the international game

“You can’t have an international game without England.”
V’landys said suggestions the game was making a large loss by taking season-opening games to Vegas were off the mark.
“And let me dispel something that’s out there in the marketplace that’s very incorrect, and that is it costs us a lot of money for Vegas,” he said.
“This year there’s a possibility that we’ll actually return a profit on the Vegas venture. And if not, it’ll be a small loss.

“In previous years we’ve spent a lot of money launching the season with limited success with the launches.
“What Vegas has cost us is less than what would cost us to launch a season. And last year it gave us the momentum that continued on through the whole year, of attendances, record viewership.”

www.theage.com.au

State of Origin could be sold off separately in next TV deal

Trumpeting itself as Australia’s top sporting code, the NRL wants to cash in at the next broadcast deal. That could have big implications for State of Origin.
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So who would commentate seperate Origin?

That is the issue. NRL needs to handle production so commentators are contracted to them not the networks

Then this will be seamless going down that path, providing the rest of FTA is still viable without Origin
 
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Perth Red said:
lol I've got that dckhead on ignore. Where did he get the figure from?

I think if a team can help double that number then it adds an extra 2.5million season audience in a new market for NRL.
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TV Ratings are flawed until they count the delayed Kayo games.

Somewhere like Perth especially has
Huge delay numbers
 
Perth Red

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Iamback said:
TV Ratings are flawed until they count the delayed Kayo games.

Somewhere like Perth especially has
Huge delay numbers
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yeh we get the Friday game at 3pm part of the year shown on a digital channel lol. Its hardly going to be a ratings winner. Id be lucky to see 2 live games a week these days, rest I watch on Kayo replay.
 
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AlwaysGreen said:
So it can only be sold to seven, nine and ten. Unless they don't want it it can't be sold to a streaming service. So wtf is the great negotiator on about?
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simucast? As many people watch NRL on ptv as on fta these days. Wouldn't be worth what its worth to FTA obviously but I suppose simucast to a PTV site might bring in a bit more cash?
 
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