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[Mother Nature's Son]

Everyone that doesn't openly despise and disparage AFL here is labelled a "fumbler" and a "troll". How pathetic.

Think a little mate, it`s because we hate that ridiculous `sport`, don`t you get it ? When you haven`t grown up with it, and I dare say many that do, it`s just this silly past-time that for what it is, takes itself way too seriously.
Blokes like you saying things like "high-powered meetings" with NFL bigwigs, "superior cultural engagement" and "checkout what`s happening in India right now" etc. etc. etc. just confirms what everyone thinks. Silly game with delusional pretensions.
You`re making it worse and certainly making it easier for someone like V`landys and his digs to gain more traction.
And now you`re on here, a League forum. Sad.

 

[comeinpeace]

Ahh you're just a crying fumbler. Cry some more.

FMD you guys just lie non stop. The media deal is now a third of revenue LMAO

AFL revenue $1.2 billion
Plus AFL club revenue $1.3 billion for its 18 clubs
Minus $460 million that was distributed to clubs from the AFL (double counting)

= $2 billion annual industry revenue. AFL media rights is just one-third of that at around $650 million

NRL revenue $850 million
Plus NRL club revenue $1.3 billion (estimated, due to private owners or the legal structure of leagues clubs, this cannot be calculated)
Minus $550 million that was distributed to clubs (double counting)

=$1.6 billion annual industry revenue. NRL media rights are $400 mil per year, so only a quarter.

The difference is pokies. The AFL's clubs make about $150 million a year in revenue in pokies. NRL Leagues Clubs, it's more like $500 million. While the profit from pokies is profit all the same that helps the NRL industry, it's revenue with a smaller profit margin.

There are greatee expenses to generate pokies revenue - like subsidising the price of food and drinks within pokies venues. AFL has greater expenses too to generate its revenue, but it doesn't scale the same way. It has to pay more rent on bigger stadiums for exame but the profit margins on the revenue of a game day attendee is bigger than the profit margins on the revenue of pokies.

So AFL $1.2 billion revenue outside of pokies and media rights, NRL $700 million revenue outside of pokies and media rights revenue.

There are teams below AFL and NRL in both codes that also have lots of pokies revenue that add to the overall revenue of the industry in general, that's harder to calculate. And at some point if we're counting that we should also count the registration fees for participants too. Both are not the main professional league revenue.

 

[comeinpeace]

WTF, three fumblers on board, what is going on ??? All over here to tell us how well they`re doing. Very odd.

Why do you hate the idea that an AFL fan, with the perspective of coming from the AFL to talk about thinks like the media rights deal, cannot also possibly be an NRL fan? I'm not NRL trolling. I've said numerous times here I think the NRL will get a big media deal, and that it's done things more impressively like the AFL, like grow Oztag/Touch. The AFL has failed in its mission to increase participation with alternate versions of the game. AFLX was an utter failure. NRL people are 100% correct to continue to mock it. Am I allowed to join in when you do?

 

[nswarrior]

I've had it told to me in person, in the course of my job, that Kayo considers NRL and AFL subscriber base to be worth roughly about equally as much to it. It's hearsay, I understand, so you don't have to believe me. Which is only just common sense. Both are roughly equally as popular TV sports as each other.

NRL with 300m viewership in next 2 years compared to 150m for AFL

 

[Mother Nature's Son]

AFL revenue $1.2 billion
Plus AFL club revenue $1.3 billion for its 18 clubs
Minus $460 million that was distributed to clubs from the AFL (double counting)

= $2 billion annual industry revenue. AFL media rights is just one-third of that at around $650 million

NRL revenue $850 million
Plus NRL club revenue $1.3 billion (estimated, due to private owners or the legal structure of leagues clubs, this cannot be calculated)
Minus $550 million that was distributed to clubs (double counting)

=$1.6 billion annual industry revenue. NRL media rights are $400 mil per year, so only a quarter.

The difference is pokies. The AFL's clubs make about $150 million a year in revenue in pokies. NRL Leagues Clubs, it's more like $500 million. While the profit from pokies is profit all the same that helps the NRL industry, it's revenue with a smaller profit margin.

There are greatee expenses to generate pokies revenue - like subsidising the price of food and drinks within pokies venues. AFL has greater expenses too to generate its revenue, but it doesn't scale the same way. It has to pay more rent on bigger stadiums for exame but the profit margins on the revenue of a game day attendee is bigger than the profit margins on the revenue of pokies.

So AFL $1.2 billion revenue outside of pokies and media rights, NRL $700 million revenue outside of pokies and media rights revenue.

There are teams below AFL and NRL in both codes that also have lots of pokies revenue that add to the overall revenue of the industry in general, that's harder to calculate. And at some point if we're counting that we should also count the registration fees for participants too. Both are not the main professional league revenue.

You`re a deadset idiot.

 

[insert.pause]

Okay, its probably closer to 50% for the AFL. But for the NRL its up around 75%.

It's a simple fact that the AFL earns a lot more non-broadcast revenue than the NRL due to its higher attendances and wider cultural engagement.

No, it’s not, dipshit. The nrl had revenue of 845m last year, their tv deal is not $630m a year… the tv deal accounts for less than half their revenue.

 

[Mother Nature's Son]

Why do you hate the idea that an AFL fan, with the perspective of coming from the AFL to talk about thinks like the media rights deal, cannot also possibly be an NRL fan? I'm not NRL trolling. I've said numerous times here I think the NRL will get a big media deal, and that it's done things more impressively like the AFL, like grow Oztag/Touch. The AFL has failed in its mission to increase participation with alternate versions of the game. AFLX was an utter failure. NRL people are 100% correct to continue to mock it. Am I allowed to join in when you do?

f**k off, you`re so f**king tiresome, desperate little fumble fan.

 

[comeinpeace]

Think a little mate, it`s because we hate that ridiculous `sport`, don`t you get it ? When you haven`t grown up with it, and I dare say many that do, it`s just this silly past-time that for what it is, takes itself way too seriously.
Blokes like you saying things like "high-powered meetings" with NFL bigwigs, "superior cultural engagement" and "checkout what`s happening in India right now" etc. etc. etc. just confirms what everyone thinks. Silly game with delusional pretensions.
You`re making it worse and certainly making it easier for someone like V`landys and his digs to gain more traction.
And now you`re on here, a League forum. Sad.

Yes. All of that is stupid. A lot of what the AFL does is delusional and silly and full of self-importance. But why? Because Melbourne never had a working class/upper class split 100 years ago like Rugby did.

A lot of the delusions and self-importance are also true of the upper class twits with money of the Rugby Union community. Imagine if 100 years ago there was never a split in rugby and you had to share your sport with those people, and those people were the executives that were running your sport and saying all the same things about a unified Rugby.

The difference is for us with a working class upbringing down south, we didn't have a sport we could call our own without rich people pretentiousness along side it. At least I'm glad that NRL exists in my country, even though I didn't grow up with it. I much prefer the authentic culture of NRL without having to worry about what the Northern suburbs Wallabies fan thinks of the NRL.

Melbourne suburban sports leagued have this split too. The VAFA, the amateur leagues, have all the ex private school people and they are the ones that run the AFL. Andrew Dillon got his job in the AFL because of the private school old boys network. But there are also leagues in Melbourne which I grew up with and the NRL remind me of. Proper leagues like the Eastern Football League. Cashed up clubs with pokies and working class tradies playing on the weekend. It's what proper footy - Aussie Rules or Rugby League - should be.

 

[nswarrior]

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