Next TV rights deal part 2

[RoosTah]

lol thats funny. Heaps of people use to say "even if fox lost the nrl i'd still have it for epl"

Yeah, that's immediately what I thought when I heard this news. By and large, the vast majority of people on this forum who said they'd keep Foxtel if it lost the NRL said they'd want it for English soccer. This changes that calculus quite a bit.

Optus ought to have the cash for it too you'd think.

 

[Mickyd39]

Does FetchTV require an internet connection or is it just a set top box kind of set up?

You can use it as set top box and get all the free to air channels and you can watch Netflix and the like with an internet connection.

http://www.fetchtv.com.au/

 

[LESStar58]

No need, FetchTV has ESPN already

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[DiegoNT]

So its seems that the tactic of securing a big fta deal and taking a patient wait and see approach on the pay tv market looks pretty good right now.

 

[LESStar58]

You can use at a set top box and get all the free to air channels and you can watch Netflix and the like with a internet connection.

http://www.fetchtv.com.au/

Does ESPN need an internet connection? There's nothing besides ESPN that interests me.

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

I like the sound of this. The fact that outside of NRL that lots of people subscribe to Fox for EPL and now Optus have pinched are warning bells for Fox and Telstra. Grant and Smith played the negotiations with a straight bat and it looks like it has the potential to pay dividends with Optus coming to the table.

I'd like to see the game move away from telco companies as naming rights sponsors. Maybe open up discussions wih Holden for naming rights seeing as the 20s will be finished when the next TV deal kicks off.

I believe (happy to be corrected) that Telstra hada F&L rights agreement on the naming rights...

So when they bought the digital rights, the NRL was obliged to package the Naming rights in as a bundle.

Given the ARLCs track record (taking the Origin rights off Harvey Norman to test their market value) an open tender next time seems likely.

 

[Bronco18]

From a business perspective, I don't envy anyone negotiating these kind of rights deals.

The sheer amount of variables that you'd need to quantify is blowing my mind. And on top of that, the outcomes are heavily publicised and you'll be criticised for it by people who don't know better.

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

I wonder if the negotiating team had the heads up on optus inentions for sports rights. Would make more for a domestic company to be in the running than banking on the likes of netflix or google thay have never had sports rights before.

I for one would switch to optus in a heartbeat if they won the broadcast rights. This country is dying for vompetition in pay tv.

Just thought that in grants interview with 2sm talkin sport last week he specifically mentioned wanting a pay tv partner who could.offer the whole digital and tv package as one. So this might be where we are heading.

Nrl network on fetch tv sounds perfect to me.

Mind you if we think its hostile now, wait until fox loses any possible bidding war.

Yeh, if their winning to try to kill a sport they profit from, imagine what they would be willing to do as a scorned ex-......

 

[BlueandGold]

https://media.optus.com.au/media-re...igital-rights-to-the-barclays-premier-league/



NRL back in the drivers seat

%100 this is a game changer to negotiations.

The longer the NRL wait the more other services will try and steal live sport of Fox.

In a a years time the NRL rights will be worth more to Fox.

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

%100 this is a game changer to negotiations.

The longer the NRL wait the more other services will try and steal live sport of Fox.

In a a years time the NRL rights will be worth more to Fox.

I wonder if their would be value in a shorter deal (2 or 3 years) to take advantage of the rise of newer mediums.

 

[VictoryFC]

Optus should make a play for one of the big American sports too. Either NBA or NFL. That would f**k Foxtel up good and proper.

I still remember the good old days of the NBA being on Channel 10 with Steve Carfino and Bill Woods. We only got the delayed game of the week but also the magazine programs like Inside Stuff with Ahmad Rashad. Same with the NFL on ABC and then Nine had it for a while cos I remember Eddie McFalafell was hosting it around 1996.

How?

You can get NFL and NBA, at ultra HD, for a couple of hundred a year already. Anyone who is a real NFL/NBA fan uses one of their incredible GamePasses. The great thing about following American sports is that you're not at the mercy of these local broadcasting leeches. You can bypass them altogether for cheaper, and better quality to boot.

 

[Desert Qlder]

The AFL and News ltd. booked themselves a luxury suite on the Titanic.

 

[VictoryFC]

Playing the devil's advocate, this isn't as big a deal as people seem to think. It's a big deal to EPL followers like myself who might now hope to get every game live and on demand for a couple of hundred a year.

From a business point of view, they're losing a league whose average viewership was anywhere between 40-120k. A league where most of the games are played outside prime time.

The fact that it can only manage $50m over 3 years, and that Fox didn't bother, shows you that it's valuable if you're entire offering is built around it. As long as Fox have NRL/AFL, nothing else matters for them.

Good news for EPL fans...irrelevant news for the broadcasters and everyone else.

 

[Mickyd39]

Does ESPN need an internet connection? There's nothing besides ESPN that interests me.

It does, the free to air channels, as you would know, come through your antenna and all of the other channels are through your internet connection.

 

[siv]

$399 for a Fetch TV Set Top Box will be a issue

 

[DiegoNT]

Playing the devil's advocate, this isn't as big a deal as people seem to think. It's a big deal to EPL followers like myself who might now hope to get every game live and on demand for a couple of hundred a year.

From a business point of view, they're losing a league whose average viewership was anywhere between 40-120k. A league where most of the games are played outside prime time.

The fact that it can only manage $50m over 3 years, and that Fox didn't bother, shows you that it's valuable if you're entire offering is built around it. As long as Fox have NRL/AFL, nothing else matters for them.

Good news for EPL fans...irrelevant news for the broadcasters and everyone else.

They're losing subscribers.
They are losing Drama tv subscribers to netflix
They're losing soccer subscribers to bein and optus
They can't afford to lose nrl subscribers on top of that, as the only thing they have going for them is afl, of which their is already 4 games a week on fta tv anyway.

 

[whall15]

Playing the devil's advocate, this isn't as big a deal as people seem to think. It's a big deal to EPL followers like myself who might now hope to get every game live and on demand for a couple of hundred a year.

From a business point of view, they're losing a league whose average viewership was anywhere between 40-120k. A league where most of the games are played outside prime time.

The fact that it can only manage $50m over 3 years, and that Fox didn't bother, shows you that it's valuable if you're entire offering is built around it. As long as Fox have NRL/AFL, nothing else matters for them.

Good news for EPL fans...irrelevant news for the broadcasters and everyone else.

If they lose the EPL and the NRL say good bye to 500k+ subscribers.

I really hope Optus end up with the NRL now.

 

[whall15]

If they lose 50k subscribers over the EPL then they're down $36m a year + ad revenue.

 

[Johnny88]

Wow Fox are getting cheap being outbid for the epl. Well done Optus.

 

[VictoryFC]

They're losing subscribers.
They are losing Drama tv subscribers to netflix
They're losing soccer subscribers to bein and optus
They can't afford to lose nrl subscribers on top of that, as the only thing they have going for them is afl, of which their is already 4 games a week on fta tv anyway.

If they lose the EPL and the NRL say good bye to 500k+ subscribers.

I really hope Optus end up with the NRL now.

There's absolutely no suggestion that they'll lose the NRL rights. I'm talking specifically about EPL.

Diego: Their subscriber base is actually pretty stable from what I last read. I just don't think that soccer subscriber base is big enough to warrant panic at Foxtel. As long as NRL/AFL is there, they have a working business model.