Noddy Issues

[blacktip-reefy]

I agree Charlie. Origin is full of players with natural ability who are dedicated.
Noddy is dedicated.
On the flip side, how well did Thurston go in his firt game of Origin? I thought he was outstanding. Got belted by Noddy, Barrett, Hindy & Ryles played with a broken hand & had a scorcher. I reckon he is most talented half in the NRL now.
Insiders at the Dogs are rueing the defection of Thurston & claim his link ability to 2nd phase was the best kept secret in last years finals series.

 

[Chondricthyes]

I felt sick last night. So dissapointed for Nod.

I agree that the less said the better before any game is a good approach.
Name calling "arrogant' is just wrong and shows little appreciation of how elite sports people work.
No problem, how could you know from the couch.

I dissagree that tests are not big games. The pressure against Eng a couple of years ago when we had a "third string" side was enormous especially in enemy territory. The games were close. He shone.

Melbs GF -he shone.

Last night he had the opposition within inches of him for every kick. Lockeyer had meters. Our forwards were beaten and gave little protection.
No halfback can perform to optimum when that is the case.
But he still had a shocker. I have never seen Nod having to defend as much in a game, a lot of tackle s which he wasn't given credit for , he was the first to meet a rampaging forward to stop the momentum.

I still feel ill but I do know he is still teh best half going round and he will make amends - he has just been too good for too long.

 

[Isurus]

No disputing the fact that Noddy had an absolute shocker last night. Despite that, I wouldn't swap him for any other halfback in the NRL.

His poor game had alot to do with the lack of go forward provided by the NSW forwards - check these stats out:-

Player Hit-ups Metres
Bailey 13 115
Ryles 10 76
Hindmarsh 8 65
Fitzy 14 96
Kennedy 14 128
Simpson 4 26
Ryan 4 28
Watmough 4 24

Apart from Kennedy, and to a lesser extent, Bailey, the forwards didn't lay much of a platform for Noddy to play at his best. If the Blues are thinking about changes, I think the three bench forwards should be the first ones looked at.

 

[fizman]

I think the reason most people across the board despise Kimmorley is because of his escapade up and down the east coast of Australia when he was on the open market. There was alot of publicity about it all and alot of it portrayed Kimmorley as a money hungry scavenger looking to extract the most money.

We would read one day that he was having lunch with the CEO form the Broncos and then the next day fly down to Sydney to meet with the CEO of the Northern Eagles and so on. Every move was in the papers.

I think that is the core reason, obviously the relationaship with Anderson added fuel to the fire as well, especially in representitive selections.

 

[blacktip-reefy]

I felt sick last night. So dissapointed for Nod.

I agree that the less said the better before any game is a good approach.
Name calling "arrogant' is just wrong and shows little appreciation of how elite sports people work.
No problem, how could you know from the couch.

So elite sports people base their approach on arrogance as that in the above quotes by Noddy? I think you should stick to the kitchen. No problem.

I dissagree that tests are not big games. The pressure against Eng a couple of years ago when we had a "third string" side was enormous especially in enemy territory. The games were close. He shone.

Our 5th string side was still enough to beat the pommes & the frenchies.

Last night he had the opposition within inches of him for every kick. Lockeyer had meters.

Exactly. Good to see somebody agrees with me that standing 1 metre deep is far too flat. Locky stands 10 metres back because he can kick a ball a lot further than BK.

I have never seen Nod having to defend as much in a game, a lot of tackle s which he wasn't given credit for , he was the first to meet a rampaging forward to stop the momentum.

Then go back through NRL stats. Dykes regularly does that many tackles & misses very few.

 

[Special K]

Kimmorley needs a pack to go forward. I thought we learnt this in 2003? That pack was belted last night. When Webb came on and messed them up none of them stepped up. Kennedy was the only one who really gave it to them. Simpson, Ryan need to go. Bring up Tupou and beg Stevo to come back.

They were forcing Kimmorley to kick out of corners last night and that messed him around. Also I think he was rushing everything to try and stick it at the pace when he should have just slowed things down. He had a shocker but in D I thought he did very well - made a thousand tackles and cleaned up 3 of Lockyers kicks. But attack was poor. Barrett seemed happy to take a back seat also when things got tough which didn't help. Joey will be back in game 2

That first 40 was one of the fastest I've ever seen.

 

[Chondricthyes]

So elite sports people base their approach on arrogance as that in the above quotes by Noddy? I think you should stick to the kitchen. No problem.



You are are a strange man Reefy, but thats cool.

 

[PJ]

Don't talk about what you dont know. If you ever run ito kearnsy, Lazzo, T ask them who really ran the Melbourne show.

If these guys ran the show in Melbourne why is T trying to get Ando on board to coach the Kiwis?

Doesn't add up.

Yes Noddy had a bad game, you should be very happy.

 

[mr_sharks]

Kimmorley was ordinary last night, but having a forward pack containing too many cream puffs didn't exactly help him.

I know, how the f**k did Ryles and Simpson receive 7s and 8s from the SMH rating panel???? FFS Ryles is the most over-rated footballer in the country with Anasta

 

[Dragon Slayer]

MY issues with Noddy are

1. He plays too flat.
2. He talks himself up too much in an arrogant way that his natural abilities cant support, like mundines talents can support.
3.His kicking game is too steered & does not include enough starch for distance.
4. He is too formula orientated. Too scripted. Too predictable for big games.
Once the script is disrupted, he loses his way.
5. He cannot pass left to right. Therefore our left side is redundant.

Why do you keep on being a goose?

I have run out of room in my sig for your inept bullsh!t.

Have you really been watching him play this year or just getting pissed on the hill?

His kicking game has been one of the best in the league this year.

If you really want to know why N.S.W really looked sh!thouse last night it's because Ricky tried to be too tricky and didn't pick any specialist props on the bench. Their props killed us with their go forward and we had no plan B on the bench. How can any halfback shine when the forwards aren't going forward. Ricky thought he'd just pick tackling machines. Just goes to show that you can't muck up the balance of a footy side. Plenty have tried and failed and Ricky just added his name to the list.

As for stating that Kimmorley is arrogant, when have you heard him say he was the man and he was going to do this or that??? He's a confident player and you need someone to have that attribute when your playing halfback and directing the team and backing your instincts.

As for stating that Mundine is a more superior player than him. Let me know when the man "CHOOSES" the side he's going to play with this year. He'd be lucky if Souths give him a run.

I don't give a flying F**K about your opposition supporter mates.
Have you ever heard of the tall poppy syndrome?

Your hatred of Kimmorley has been exposed once again.
I tell you where we'd be without him this year.
We'd be giving Newcastle and Souths competition.

For whatever dignity you have left.
Please shut the F**K UP!

 

[blacktip-reefy]

Whenever your ready DS, we all know your a little faggy accountant.

Dont go fighting above your mental weight.

If I really wanted to know what went wrong last night, I would not look at a post by some accountant for Sydney water. A drip counting drops.

As for me being exposed as a Kimmorley hater, that is just a rebuff by the BK "cant do a thing wrong brigade".
I have always had question marks over his ability at the elite level of which he clearly has failed 6 times. Questions marks over his tactics & style mainly.
That is 3 more chances than aitken has had at NRL level & 2 more games than Sully has played at half for the Sharks. Some BK supporters are quick to bag both of those players.
We are a good team with Kimmorley in the side & we stand a better chance with him than without him no doubt.
However, as it seems we will be looking at being part of the finals this year, are there no discussion points about the failure at the elite level by our key player?

 

[blacktip-reefy]

No disputing the fact that Noddy had an absolute shocker last night. Despite that, I wouldn't swap him for any other halfback in the NRL.

His poor game had alot to do with the lack of go forward provided by the NSW forwards - check these stats out:-

Player Hit-ups Metres
Bailey 13 115
Ryles 10 76
Hindmarsh 8 65
Fitzy 14 96
Kennedy 14 128
Simpson 4 26
Ryan 4 28
Watmough 4 24

Apart from Kennedy, and to a lesser extent, Bailey, the forwards didn't lay much of a platform for Noddy to play at his best. If the Blues are thinking about changes, I think the three bench forwards should be the first ones looked at.

Maybe some truth in that.
Civo 14 139

Price 24 189

Thron 20 159

Crok 10 75

flann 9 76

Ross 15 135

Webb 115

maguire 4 17



112 hitups 905 metres avg 8 metres





Bailey 13 115

Ryles 10 76

Hindmarsh 8 65

Fitzy 14 96

Kennedy 14 128

Simpson 4 26

Ryan 4 28

Watmough 4 24



85 hitups 558 6.6 avg metres


However, thee is more to that picture & again it goes back to Noddys kicking game & Lockys.

 

[PJ]

However, as it seems we will be looking at being part of the finals this year, are there no discussion points about the failure at the elite level by our key player?

At finals level he has been to 1 GF for 1 win and the Clive Churchill medal.

I'm not overly worried about how he will perform for us if/when we get there.

 

[fizman]

Whenever your ready DS, we all know your a little faggy accountant.

Dont go fighting above your mental weight.

If I really wanted to know what went wrong last night, I would not look at a post by some accountant for Sydney water. A drip counting drops.

As for me being exposed as a Kimmorley hater, that is just a rebuff by the BK "cant do a thing wrong brigade".
I have always had question marks over his ability at the elite level of which he clearly has failed 6 times. Questions marks over his tactics & style mainly.
That is 3 more chances than aitken has had at NRL level & 2 more games than Sully has played at half for the Sharks. Some BK supporters are quick to bag both of those players.
We are a good team with Kimmorley in the side & we stand a better chance with him than without him no doubt.
However, as it seems we will be looking at being part of the finals this year, are there no discussion points about the failure at the elite level by our key player?

Oh the irony!!!

 

[coolumsharkie]

However, thee is more to that picture & again it goes back to Noddys kicking game & Lockys.

Either, or..

Kimmorley had a bad night and the NSW (jobs for the boys)forwards had no answer to the Qld big guns. How they got back in the game I'll never know.

I don't agree with your Mundine comments BTR but I suppose we're all entitled to our opinions.

Kimmorley= Australian Halfback
Mundine= Had potential

 

[blacktip-reefy]

Factor in 2 wingers & full back for each team stats

NSW 135 hitups 993 metres 7.3 avg metres
Queensland 137 1075 metres 7.8 avg metres

Nowconsider Lockys kicks were pinpoint and long the back 3 for nsw came into play far more than queenslanders. The long kicks meant tackles 1-3 were taken by the back 3 regularly.

Slater 7 35
Williams 11 82
Sing 9 65

Minni 20 156
King 12 125
Rooney 18 154

 

[coolumsharkie]

Lockyer has had shockers before remember..(not many though)

Last night his kicking game was near perfect, he's a freak!

 

[coolumsharkie]

Also...

Even though Qld were the better side what the f*ck is doing with that try off Slaters knee?? If he attempts to catch the ball then it should be a knock on.. that was an unbelievable decision.

 

[Surely]

Maybe some truth in that.

However, thee is more to that picture & again it goes back to Noddys kicking game & Lockys.

I'll say it helps your kicking game enormously when you are kicking from the halfway or in opposion territory, than it does when you are kicking from your inside your own 30.

 

[Surely]

Factor in 2 wingers & full back for each team stats

NSW 135 hitups 993 metres 7.3 avg metres
Queensland 137 1075 metres 7.8 avg metres

Nowconsider Lockys kicks were pinpoint and long the back 3 for nsw came into play far more than queenslanders. The long kicks meant tackles 1-3 were taken by the back 3 regularly.

Slater 7 35
Williams 11 82
Sing 9 65

Minni 20 156
King 12 125
Rooney 18 154

And i like this one, locky's kicks were pinpoint so our back three made huge yardage.

Or maybe it was just the long runs each of them had in the second half when we made a few line breaks.

Or maybe they were doing the work that the forwards weren't.