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Gronk

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Tromp daughter charged with stealing car, as questions remain over family mystery

POLICE have charged Ella Tromp with stealing a car in the latest twist in the family saga that’s gripped Australia.

Victoria police confirmed two charges have been laid, after inquiries from news.com.au.

A spokeswoman said a 22-year-old Silvan woman was charged with theft of a motor vehicle and possessing the proceeds of a crime [the car] on August 30 in Victoria. She was bailed to appear at Ringwood Magistrates Court on April 19, 2017.

Her sister Riana was also charged with theft of motor vehicle, but the charge has since been dismissed under section 33 of the Mental Health Act of NSW.

No other charges were expected against any other family member, police said, despite time and resources in two states being spent hunting for the family.

Speculation over whether the Tromp sisters were going to be charged has been increasing since it emerged the two had allegedly taken the car after they fled their parents at the Jenolan Caves, increasingly concerned by their erratic behaviour.

When asked how Ella and Riana left Jenolan Caves, police said they did so in a car they neither hired nor owned.

Riana separated from her sister and was then found in a catatonic state, hiding in the back of a local man’s ute in Goulburn.

THE UNANSWERED QUESTIONS

Mark Tromp — who disappeared with wife Jacoba and children Mitchell, Ella and Riana — was the last of the family to be found on Saturday, after his wife turned up in Yass on Thursday.

He is alive and well, physically at least, but the mystery is far from over. We are left with almost as many questions as answers.

Where was Mark for the five days he was missing, when it seemed the whole country was searching for him?

Jacoba turned up on Thursday and was admitted to hospital, dazed and agitated. From there she was transferred to a Goulburn mental health facility. But where had she been from the moment she left her husband, on the Tuesday, until she arrived in Yass two days later? And how did she get to Yass?

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Mystery around the Tromp family has captivated the country.Source:Supplied

The mental health issues that have plagued the family have been a source of confusion as well. How could more than one person in the same family have such serious delusions — all at the same time? Why were they all so convinced someone was out to get them? What led to the family meltdown?

Police say they had no debts and no one was chasing them.

Two of the couple’s children, Mitchell and Ella, told reporters yesterday that they couldn’t explain what happened. But have they said everything they know?

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Mark Tromp gives the media the finger as he leaves Wangaratta police station.Source:Channel 9

Perhaps most bizarre is the fact that the Tromps’ children Mitchell and Ella seem as much in the dark about what went wrong as the rest of Australia.

Speaking to the media yesterday, they shared few clues about the ordeal — even though they were there for part of it — and admitted the whole five-day mystery was “hard to explain”.

Both said they were “still confused” about the trip.

“I had to go with the family because I wanted to see where they were going,” Mitchell said.

“I couldn’t leave them. But, yeah, it was tough to see your family like that and I’ve never seen anyone like it.”

Asked what triggered the trip, Ella said: “It is very confusing, I still feel confused … I think our state of minds wasn’t in the best place and … there’s no one reason for it. It’s bizarre.”

The siblings were reluctant to expand further on details saying “police are still investigating”.

In an earlier public appeal for assistance when Mark was still missing, the kids expressed how much they loved their missing dad.

“He’s not dangerous, he’s my mate, my father. I love him,” Mitchell told reporters.

Pressure had apparently been building on the usually happy family in the days before they fled their Silvan home — a lush and sprawling berry farm where visitors are welcomed to pick redcurrant berries and explore the idyllic livestock-studded surrounds.

Mitch said his father had become “paranoid” after a “build-up of different, normal everyday events” leading him and Jacoba to unravel and take the rest of the family with them.

“I’ve never seen anything like it,” Mitch said.

“It’s really hard to explain or put a word on it but they were just fearing for their lives and then they decided to flee”.

Mitch said the “pressure”, as he described it, “slowly got worse as the days went by”.

He’s tried to explain his father’s disappearance saying he “thinks people are after him. He’s not in a good state of mind”.

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http://www.news.com.au/national/tro...g/news-story/5459282c94f180f6a9694fc766c22d4d
 

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So the father who thought people were after him, was missing for five days, and when found was released with no mental health concerns... while the mother and eldest daughter have been detained in mental health care since being found?

Sounds like either everyone was caught up in some delusional behaviour effecting mostly the mother/eldest sister, and/or something traumatic happened on the road trip causing them all to split up and the son to make his own way home, and the daughters to steal a car (for which one has been let off due to her mental health at the time?

They say police are still investigating, probably more to come out once they get to the bottom of it...
 

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Or is it viral marketing ? Shit like this has happened before.

If it's the real deal, 60 Minutes etc are queuing up.

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What will it cost to tell the Tromp story we all want to hear?

IT’S the mystery story that has captivated the nation.

A “stressed” family flees their house, leaving their phones and other valuables in an unlocked home and heads interstate with no specific destination.

Along the way a phone gets thrown out of a car window and the three adult children part company from their increasingly erratic parents. Two of the family make it home. Two end up under mental stress in hospital. Dad isn’t found for five days.

With every answer there are more questions. Everyone wants to hear the full story of the Tromp family from country Victoria and their mystery road trip.

And with current affairs shows such as Sunday Night and 60 Minutes rumoured to be circling, it’s believed the bidding to convince the Tromps to talk will start at $100,000.

And despite shrinking budgets, either of the big guns would be in the chase, former staffers and insiders from both shows say.

“As interview talent, this family is as good as it gets,” said one source.

“They’re an attractive, seemingly well-off family with a bizarre story to tell. There are so many questions remaining, which only they can answer.”

Industry insiders said the story would be worth “at least $100k — possibly much more if a bidding war breaks out. They’d be willing to go up to $200k — keeping in mind that budgets have been cut”.

“I imagine both shows would be after it,” said one network TV executive.

“It would certainly be worth spending the money, as it’s intriguing and bizarre.”

Setting the stage for a bidding war are the fact 60 Minutes needs a fresh victory after a horror year thanks to the spectre of its failed Lebanon kidnap attempt debacle, and rival Sunday Night is now under the eye of former 60 Minutes EP Hamish Thomson.

“It’s the biggest Australian exclusive that we’ve seen for a while, and something like this could bring 60 Minutes back on top of the ratings,” one source said.

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Relief Mitchell and Ella Tromp hold a press conference after their missing father Mark Tromp was found. Picture: David CroslingSource:News Corp Australia

The Tromp family has made no media comments other than a few press conferences as the search for the father, Mark Tromp, unfolded last week — and then on Sunday after he had been found.

But brother and sister Mitchell and Ella shed few new clues on how the family ended up on their mystery road trip, or why they became separated.

Both said they were “still confused” about last week’s trip, but went with their parents “to see where they were going”.

“It’s hard to explain,” said 25-year-old Mitchell.

“I can see why they [the public] want to know but it’s a family matter and we just want the family to be back together and for everything to work itself out and I think it will.”

The family will be one under siege because everyone wants answers, and the push to get them to sign on to tell the story is expected to be sold as their way of telling it from their side, and a way to get all of the other media outlets off their backs.

Jacoba Tromp remains in a mental health facility, as does her daughter Riana, and police have today charged Ella Tromp with stealing a car, so the push for an exclusive agreement when the family can talk will be on.

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Media outside the entrance to Yass District Hospital, where Mrs Tromp was first treated. Picture: Ray Strange.Source:News Corp Australia

“They’d be better off signing an exclusive agreement and sitting down for one interview. Then the rest of the media will move on, and they won’t have reporters at their door all day,” said a former network staffer.

“For a story this big, when they know other people are chasing it, they’ll start their offer high at around $100k, so that they’re taken seriously in the negotiations if anyone else is offering big money.

“60 Minutes is going to be hamstrung by their tight new budget, but for a story this big they could be given leeway to negotiate higher. A story like this could be worth as much as $250k.

“They can’t afford for Sunday Night to get a big exclusive like this right now, when they’re already so vulnerable.

“Often it comes down to sending a good producer to negotiate with the talent and form a relationship with them, so they’re trusted to tell the story over someone else.

“The aim is to get them to sign on the dotted line before network executives and managers come into play, and the dollars become ridiculous.”

Neither 60 Minutes nor Sunday Night has commented on whether they are trying to secure the Tromp story.

http://www.news.com.au/entertainmen...r/news-story/66be33b083358aa41573d61ec5d1dcf3
 

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The thing is that everything points to them being a normal family. I get that there could be unintentional ingestion of drugs (but the paranoia lasted for 3/4/5 days) and there is always folie à deux - where the madness of one rubs off on others. I'm leaning towards viral marketing of sorts.

Yarra Ranges sergeant Mark Knight – who led the investigation and knows the family – said that despite the family's fear they were being followed, no one was after them and they were not being pursued. Police have not found evidence suggesting the family's money was being targeted by a thief.

Sergeant Knight said there had been no previous diagnosed mental health conditions among the family and there was no evidence of drug taking or drug psychosis.

There is no suggestion of carbon monoxide poisoning, which can cause psychosis.

The family have no debts and their businesses – an earth-moving company and berry farm – are successful.

Sergeant Knight said he experienced "sheer relief and happiness" when he was told Mr Tromp had been found.

"It brought us an overwhelming relief," he said.

He and three other officers, including a retired policeman who volunteered his help, worked out of the Monbulk police station investigating reported sightings of the man they knew well.

Their colleague Ken Tromp, Mark's brother, led the search in Wangaratta.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/e...ter-father-mark-is-found-20160903-gr88bk.html
 

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Meanwhile, the Philippines President got his period today.
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Philippines president Rodrigo Duterte has warned Barack Obama not to question him about extrajudicial killings, or 'son of a whore I will swear at you'.

Despite it being unclear whether the US president would raise the subject when the two men attend the ASEAN summit in Laos this week, Mr Duterte was asked by a reporter how he would explain himself if he did.

More than 2,400 suspected drug traffickers and users have been executed since Mr Duterte launched a war on drugs after taking office at the end of June.

'I don't give a s about anybody observing my behaviour,' he said. 'I am a president of a sovereign state and we have long ceased to be a colony.

'I do not have any master except the Filipino people, nobody but nobody.

'You must be respectful. Do not just throw questions. Son of a whore, I will swear at you in that forum,' he said.


- See more at: http://www.skynews.com.au/news/worl...nthem&utm_source=twitter#sthash.3Rccktqf.dpuf
 

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Meanwhile, the Philippines President got his period today.
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Philippines president Rodrigo Duterte has warned Barack Obama not to question him about extrajudicial killings, or 'son of a whore I will swear at you'.

Despite it being unclear whether the US president would raise the subject when the two men attend the ASEAN summit in Laos this week, Mr Duterte was asked by a reporter how he would explain himself if he did.

More than 2,400 suspected drug traffickers and users have been executed since Mr Duterte launched a war on drugs after taking office at the end of June.

'I don't give a s about anybody observing my behaviour,' he said. 'I am a president of a sovereign state and we have long ceased to be a colony.

'I do not have any master except the Filipino people, nobody but nobody.

'You must be respectful. Do not just throw questions. Son of a whore, I will swear at you in that forum,' he said.


- See more at: http://www.skynews.com.au/news/worl...nthem&utm_source=twitter#sthash.3Rccktqf.dpuf
You gotta respect the balls that guy has..
 

Gronk

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Pretty sure that wise merkins don't bite that hand that feeds you. Has he stopped to think how much cash the US pumps into his economy each year ? They host 5 US military bases...

Antonio Bautista Air Base. Located near the capital of the island province of Palawan, which is strategically located near the contested Spratly Islands in the South China Sea.

Basa Air Base. Located about 40 miles northwest of the Philippines' capital, Manila, the air base was originally constructed by the U.S. Army Air Corps before the Second World War.

Fort Magsaysay. Located on the northern Island of Luzon, Fort Magsaysay is the largest military installation in the Philippines, and is one of the primary training areas of the Philippine Army.

Lumbia Air Base. Located on the southern island of Mindanao, the air base is connected to a civilian airport. Local media reports say construction of a new U.S. facility will begin soon.

Mactan-Benito Ebuen Air Base. Located on Mactan Island of the coast of Cebu in the central Philippines. It was originally built by the U.S. Air Force before the American pullout in the early 1990s.
 

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