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Gary Gutful

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The GOAT between the 3 best of all time will be decided on what then? For me it's grand slams.
It will be decided on a range of factors imo:

Record against each other overall
Record against each other in majors
Number of tournament victories
Number of weeks at No. 1
Number of weeks in top 5
Number of weeks in top 10
Influence on the way the game is played
Opinions of peers. Who is the hardest player to beat?
Record across different surfaces
Overall winning percentage (all matches)

Novak is probably superior on all of the above, yet Nadal has one more major. I don’t think on that basis you can say that Nadal is a greater player than Novak.
 

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Record against each other overall
Record against each other in majors
Number of tournament victories
Number of weeks at No. 1
Number of weeks in top 5
Number of weeks in top 10
Influence on the way the game is played
Opinions of peers. Who is the hardest player to beat?
Record across different surfaces
Overall winning percentage (all matches)

Novak is probably superior on all of the above, yet Nadal has one more major. I don’t think on that basis you can say that Nadal is a greater player than Novak.

Djokvic also had peak vs two guys maybe a bit pass peak. Did he play Federer when at his peak?
I'd say Federer was about 85-95% of peak once Djokvic was at his best. Federer had declined.

Nadal is the king of clay. That's certain but also won another 10 or so on other surfaces.

Federer had the most technical game.

Djokvic had to win all his slams while Federer and Rafa where there. The other two got to chalk up many before he arrived.

So who is the best of all time? All 3 are great.
Sampras would of also beaten all of them at some point and should be mentioned.
 

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I think Novak has more longevity in the game than the other 2 which may work in his favour when the complete stats are worked out.
 

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And Federer hasn’t been the same since Novak ripped him in a new arsehole at Wimbledon in 2019.

Hopefully Nadal’s performance will demonstrate to Novak that the vaccine does not inhibit performance.
 

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Rafa has also been winning slams since 2005 consistently. So thats a 16yr span.

Djoka did win win one in 2008 but it was untill 2011 when he started winning them consistently. More of a 10yr span at top.

So do you factor this into the equation?
 

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Rafa is going bald. Novak will never lose his hair.

The problem with Novak but is he comes across as smug and arrogant. And when he does speak it comes cross as fake.
Rafa and Federer are genuine nice guys. Good people. Of course the crowd and people will like them.
Medvedev cared on liek a prick all tournament, said the crowd was stupid and low IQ, He abused the chair umpire. He said he would not watch Barty caus eye links to have dinner at 7.30.
But you decide he is disliked cause he is from Russia. Ridiculous.
The guy acted like a twat and got what he deserved.

The world's moved past caring where someone is from. It is only the old generations that seem to hold onto it like yourself.
Sad to say it but you might be an old has been that has not moved with the times😔
 

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The problem with Novak but is he comes across as smug and arrogant. And when he does speak it comes cross as fake.
Rafa and Federer are genuine nice guys. Good people. Of course the crowd and people will like them.
Medvedev cared on liek a prick all tournament, said the crowd was stupid and low IQ, He abused the chair umpire. He said he would not watch Barty caus eye links to have dinner at 7.30.
But you decide he is disliked cause he is from Russia. Ridiculous.
The guy acted like a twat and got what he deserved.

The world's moved past caring where someone is from. It is only the old generations that seem to hold onto it like yourself.
Sad to say it but you might be an old has been that has not moved with the times😔
I’m middle aged but far from being a has been. I’m in my prime and run the show where I work and have been doing it for over a decade.

And the West do not like Russians the same reason why Medvedev doesn’t like the opposition which is why he loves giving it to them. He is no dummy and far from being brain washed as you are suggesting.
 

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When I was his age I would have been worse. It’s in our DNA. We can’t help it. We are however loyal, hospitable and passionate a trait that in my experience Aussies of Anglo Saxon heritage have only at best 2 out of 3.
 

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One thing I can’t cop about skips is when we are in a group of say 4 or more people. My skippy mates will sometimes go and get themselves a drink without asking the group or at best are in a ‘shout’ with one other person.

f**k me.

And this bring your own food and drink if I’m hosting is out of the question. By all means bring a bottle of wine or a cake but if you bring your own 6 pack and store it in my fridge and open it as you please is big no no. Recently some guy drank 5 of the 6 beers and insisted he take the last one with him. This was after he got smashed on my rakija.

He is now on the banned list.
 

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I’m middle aged but far from being a has been. I’m in my prime and run the show where I work and have been doing it for over a decade.

And the West do not like Russians the same reason why Medvedev doesn’t like the opposition which is why he loves giving it to them. He is no dummy and far from being brain washed as you are suggesting.
Medvedev acted like a big tough guy but then folded like a bitch when things didn’t go his way.

He’s certainly no dummy, but I’m not sure how resilient he is compared to Nadal and Djokovic.
 

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Medvedev acted like a big tough guy but then folded like a bitch when things didn’t go his way.

He’s certainly no dummy, but I’m not sure how resilient he is compared to Nadal and Djokovic.
Novak has similar problems until he changed his diet. He was an undiagnosed celiac.
 

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One thing I can’t cop about skips is when we are in a group of say 4 or more people. My skippy mates will sometimes go and get themselves a drink without asking the group or at best are in a ‘shout’ with one other person.

f**k me.

And this bring your own food and drink if I’m hosting is out of the question. By all means bring a bottle of wine or a cake but if you bring your own 6 pack and store it in my fridge and open it as you please is big no no. Recently some guy drank 5 of the 6 beers and insisted he take the last one with him. This was after he got smashed on my rakija.

He is now on the banned list.

If in large groups 5+ I prefer not to get in these huge shouts. Rather just do a shout between 2. Especialy when a round could cost $50 and I only plan to have two drinks. I don't think its an issue. I'm not a large drinker and will always check out after a couple.

But yes I know a friend who has done same many times. Brings his own 6 pack and takes whatever he didn't drink home after eating all my food. Someone who would never throw a BBQ himself. I find it easy but. When catch up with these types its at the pub for a bite. Kid you not the same guy would go up the pub on 1/2 price Schnitzel night. Would cost $10 each. $20 for him and his misses and then they only order 1 x gravy for $1 to share and ask for two glasses of tap water. Pepper sauce or mushroom was $2 lol.
I remember when he was in a round with me and Mik. Mik was drinking Coronas while he was drinking News. Heninsited after rnd 6 Mik had to double up cause the corona cost him $1.50 more. Mik tell him to get f**kd and said when his shout can get a double Scott if he likes now go get me a corona. So what does he do? He brings Mik back a Tooheys New. Mik poured it into the garden and went and bought his own. Was very funny
 

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If in large groups 5+ I prefer not to get in these huge shouts. Rather just do a shout between 2. Especialy when a round could cost $50 and I only plan to have two drinks. I don't think its an issue. I'm not a large drinker and will always check out after a couple.

But yes I know a friend who has done same many times. Brings his own 6 pack and takes whatever he didn't drink home after eating all my food. Someone who would never throw a BBQ himself. I find it easy but. When catch up with these types its at the pub for a bite. Kid you not the same guy would go up the pub on 1/2 price Schnitzel night. Would cost $10 each. $20 for him and his misses and then they only order 1 x gravy for $1 to share and ask for two glasses of tap water. Pepper sauce or mushroom was $2 lol.
I remember when he was in a round with me and Mik. Mik was drinking Coronas while he was drinking News. Heninsited after rnd 6 Mik had to double up cause the corona cost him $1.50 more. Mik tell him to get f**kd and said when his shout can get a double Scott if he likes now go get me a corona. So what does he do? He brings Mik back a Tooheys New. Mik poured it into the garden and went and bought his own. Was very funny
I think Mik’s real name may be Miloš.
 

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