NRL: Lets talk about relocating teams, says QRL boss.

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  1. The Great Dane

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    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sp...s/news-story/b9f211864b443ec1d3a845f12e9c6a2d

    There're much better ways of handling the problem, so it's dumb, but I guess that a poor solution is better than no solution...
     
  2. Marlins

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    Relocate Roosters & Manly
     
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  3. Diesel

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    Relocate everyone but no extra teams for Brisbane
     
  4. taipan

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    I place more credence on any relocation decision from within Sydney,not someone tucked away in Qld.,whose agenda sticks out like Rothfield in a beauty pageant.
     
  5. The Great Dane

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    Of course you'd prefer things that way, cause that way the status quo continues in perpetuity...
     
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    Of course I'd expect your reply in that fashion,shock ,horror.

    What I prefer and what actually happens, can be miles apart. I prefer18 teams ,if that's status quo, your maths is stuffed.
    If a Sydney team gets relocated ,the decision is up to the Commission ,not Hartcher.
    No Sydney club is going to get asssisted again by the NRL.if they go under.Hardly perpetuity.
     
  7. T-Boon

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    Relocate Sea Eagles, Roosters, Sharks and Panthers.
     
  8. taipan

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    As long as it stifles your code,I'm all for it.
     
  9. The Great Dane

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    Yeah cause you've made your stance clear on here a million times: basically expansion is 'great', hell the sport is 'great', but the Sharks come first, if anything effects the Sharks in a negative way then it shouldn't happen, even if it'd be a net positive for the sport and the competition as a whole.

    Though obviously you wouldn't articulate it this way your opinion is pretty simple, the NRL is just the NSWRL (effectively a Sydney suburban comp) under another name, the clubs from outside of Sydney can take part but only if they are a 100% net positive to the Sydney clubs or they don't effect the Sydney clubs in any significant way.

    To meet the standards to achieve what you "prefer" are so insurmountably high (that any new expansion club must be successful in almost ever regard from day dot (especially profitability), they can't effect the operations of your club to any measurable degree (especially when it comes to it's 'share' of the broadcast money, and for some reason crowds), and they must 100% provide for themselves in every regard from day dot except that they get the same grant that all NRL clubs get from the NRL) that it is to effectively support the status quo cause under those standards nothing but the status quo is reasonably possible outside of extremely unusual circumstances. I.e. you support expansion in name only, in reality you support only what is beneficial and/or convenient to you and your club.

    Firstly it's not really up to the Commission, but that is an aside and the fact that you think that "the Commission" equals, to quote you-
    is the problem.

    You don't see the NRL as the National Rugby League or the ARLC as the Australian Rugby League Commission, you see it as yours ( the Sydney club's), your just happy to let other people play with it too as long as it doesn't effect you.

    Yeah pretty much every RL administration that I can remember has said something similar, then a few months/years later they've propped up a club that's never going to be sustainable in the long term.

    BTW, the hypocrisy of the fact that you hold this opinion now that you think the Sharks are safe is another part of the problem, shit I'd bet anything that if the Sharks fell over tomorrow your tune would change again...
     
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    What ever you reckon Swans fan, stop coming in here talking about the Swans all the time.
     
  11. taipan

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    Good impression, not very convincing.
     
  12. taipan

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    You have a terrible habit of making laughable assumptions about my views.
    "I think the Sharks are safe".
    LOL They were not safe when the SL war started, only going to SL because the Dragons stayed loyal.
    They then were at death's door.I was there when they made SL decision at the club.

    Let me spell it out one more time.The club is relying on it's development to give it financial security, if the final stages fall over due to another GFC event, they won't be safe.

    If the development continues along the same vein as the early stages, then they will have the financials to put themselves in a strong position.If any club is in a strong financial position, why the need to remove any club including Canberra.I have never shied away from that view.
    I've stated all along if all clubs are financially viable, then whiteanting your base serves little purpose ,other than to alienate fans.Of course if you're tucked away ,with your club being unaffected it's a no brainer.
    I've stated which you apparently are unable to grasp or deliberately ignore,if the Sharks fell over tomorrow I'd be devastated ,as would any fan of a club, unless you're built of stone.I have also stated if they are relocated ,my efforts would concentrate on the internationals game.
    Now you can put any dumb interpretation of my views, as many times as you wish, but them's the facts.
     
  13. The Great Dane

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    What does SL have to do with anything? Scratch that, what does SL (or the Swans) ever have to do with anything when you bring them up....

    I wrote a reply to this then scrapped it all cause by chance I saw that you'd written a ton of other stuff and left it in the quote attributed to me, don't do that it's just a really dumb thing to do, for a start it just confuses everything and some people will think I wrote what you've written, and I've missed it all and not responded to it cause I didn't think to read what supposedly I'd written looking for your response.

    After wasting time writing a response to the above only to scrap it I honestly can't be bothered reading through the other stuff and completely re-writing a response, anyhow after reading about a sentence of it it's pretty obvious that it's probably all hyperbolic BS littered with pretty obvious falsehoods anyway so it's probably not worth going through anyway, especially considering that in the one sentence that I read you suggested that Canberra (and by extension) the ACT is or should be considered to be just part of NSW, cause really how do you respond to something so abjectly false and frankly just out and out ignorant...
     
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    Relocate Roosters, Penrith, Sharks and Canterbury.
    Have CC, Perth, Brisbane 2 and Adelaide and then in future another Qld team and NZ Wellington.
     
  15. Perth Red

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    Tbh most clubs brands are not really that valuable that they would offer a lot as a relocation rather than setting up a new club. Most fans in Sydney would abandon them so not much winning there and you run the risk of fans in the relocation city not supporting them because they have a historical rival team they followed.

    Better they drop into nsw Cup and concentrate on jnr development and new brands are built.
     
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    For mine expansion over relocation but relocation over maintaing the status quo. Sadly it looks like expansion is a long way off
     
  17. The Great Dane

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    I pretty much agree, the only thing I'd say is that dropping them to NSW Cup is a waste, they still have the potential to do/be something big, but since any radical change to the structure of the sport in this country (especially something like introducing a proper pyramid system) is almost certainly never going to happen it's probably beyond wishful thinking to even propose the potential of something like that. It's sad but it is what it is.
     
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    Maybe all NSW teams should leave the NRL and just play in the NSWRL
     
  19. Perth Red

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    All except
    Souths
    Bulldogs
    Eels
    Knights
    Dragons
    Roosters

    They can stay in nrl, rest can play in the nswrl championship with the bears and jets :)
     
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    Sydney’s a basket case. Should offer 6-7 Sydney licences and make each club reapply for them. Open it up for current NRL and NSWRL clubs as well as any new consortium
     
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