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NRL players unite in push for percentage of TV rights deal

Ferryman

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RUGBY league's most powerful stars last night gathered en masse to advocate an NBA-style pay structure that will guarantee them a fixed percentage of the game's future revenue. In an unprecedented show of unity, hundreds of players representing the nine Sydney-based clubs descended upon Olympic Park for this year's Rugby League Players Association AGM.
Representatives from out-of-town clubs also tuned in via video link, through which Broncos bookends Petero Civoniceva and Ben Hannant petitioned the RLPA to fight for a percentage package rather than a fixed-figure salary cap.
Incredibly, the players have been without a Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA) for almost five months.

The previous deal expired on October 31 last year and RLPA boss David Garnsey is still awaiting feedback from the newly formed Independent Commission to start negotiations toward a five-year CBA.
They are likely to start once the new broadcast deal is finalised, which is hoped to deliver enough funding to raise next year's salary cap to $5 million.
But influential players want the RLPA to petition for a percentage-based cap that automatically assures them more money should the game increase its revenue.
Before the meeting at Novotel Hotel, Civoniceva said player advocates had studied percentage pay scales in US sports and wanted the RLPA to pursue a similar system in the upcoming talks.
"It's something that the boys and other players have spoken to me about," said Civoniceva, the RLPA's chief player representative. "There's a few boys who want to discuss that and there's a particular player (Hannant) who's looked at different models around the world.
"There's a strong view that as a group that's the direction we should head in.
"We want to throw it around the meeting for discussion."
The 35-year-old statesman has regularly been left posted as a lone voice for his peers, who have shown limited interest in aggressively advancing their rights.
But that changed dramatically last night, with the Bulldogs and Panthers presenting their entire NRL squads for the 6pm meeting.
Cowboys skipper Johnathan Thurston rounded up 20 teammates to watch the meeting in Townsville, while Micheal Luck ensured the Warriors had a say from Auckland.
"There's a lot of things happening this year, with the Independent Commission and TV rights deal," Ennis said. "Too often in the past we as a player group have not been strong enough in standing up for our rights. That has to change. We have to get involved and that's why I brought our entire team to the meeting."
Civoniceva said: "It's been disappointing in the past, but players are beginning to change their mindset and understand the issues.
"There's been a lot better communication between all players and the RLPA, not just the captains and senior blokes."

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...v-rights-deal/comments-e6frexnr-1226306624289
 
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Ferryman

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I think it is only fair that players get a percentage of TV rights deal....of all revenue the game generates for that matter.
 

carlosthedwarf

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Incredibly, the players have been without a Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA) for almost five months.

Can't remember the thread but someone mentioned how weak the PA is, I guess this is some evidence of it.
 

canberra_raiders2k2

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Why though.. With the increase they will all get provided more inflated contracts. So on top they want a further increase??

Invest the cash, instead of wanting more and more. I'd rather this extra percent go to grass roots.
 

Packy

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I think a % is a fair call. What that % may be could be an entirely different matter.
 

gronkathon

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The NBA is a terrible comparrison as are any American major sports.

The College system in itself is a multi million dollar concern run without and need for the governing body to contribute.

Any increase in revenue should be filtered through in cap increases, increased minimum wage and most importantly junior infrastructure and development.
 

El Diablo

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i don't have any dramas with it

have a read of the comments on the DT site. jesus there are some numbnuts they let post. seems the DT are only letting replies that suit their agenda through too

half the dicks that commented are going apeshit because the players aren't wearing suits :crazy:
 

RWB

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Why though.. With the increase they will all get provided more inflated contracts. So on top they want a further increase??

Invest the cash, instead of wanting more and more. I'd rather this extra percent go to grass roots.

Where does it say they want a further increase?

All they're putting up for discussion is that they want a percentage so when the games revenue does increase in the future so does the salary cap relative to the percent of increased revenue. For all we know the RPA are happy with the 5 million dollar salary cap and the percentage will be based off that.

Without knowing what percentage they want you've made a huge leap to assume they are demanding further increases.
 
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Seems like a bad idea to me.

For a start it will mean players will be against expansion of the competition because it will mean they have to split the pie more ways.

Although if it's based solely on the TV deal it would mean $1b (say) split between 480 players (16 teams x 30 players) over five years. If they took 50% I make that $208,000 per player on average and a salary cap of $6.25m. That is about what it probably should be. But unless the IC allows more than that any new clubs will mean a reduction in the cap and a reduction in the average wage. Of course the whole thing doesn't take other revenue into consideration outside of TV money.
 

Perth Red

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Does that mean everytime a player f"*Ks up and the game loses corporate support we can collectively take money off them?

No problem with them having a % as long as it is line with the what clubs can afford in the salary cap, it really makes little difference at the end of the day if the salary cap is set at a % or is a set amount. After this deal it is unlikely any future deals will be massively increased.

$5.5mill salary cap $6mill club grant from 2013
$6.5mill salary cap $7mill club grant from 2015

is what I'd like to see presuming we reach the $billion.
 

Blackdiamond

Juniors
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Does this mean Junior Clubs & Country Rugby League get more funding to help run the clubs & promote the game? Or are we just going to pay the top 100 NRL players more money?

I agree that more of the increased revenue needs to filter down, but I feel it would better serve the game, if it were spent where needed, rather than where wanted?
 
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RUGBY league's most powerful stars last night gathered en masse to advocate an NBA-style pay structure that will guarantee them a fixed percentage of the game's future revenue. In an unprecedented show of unity, hundreds of players representing the nine Sydney-based clubs descended upon Olympic Park for this year's Rugby League Players Association AGM.
Representatives from out-of-town clubs also tuned in via video link, through which Broncos bookends Petero Civoniceva and Ben Hannant petitioned the RLPA to fight for a percentage package rather than a fixed-figure salary cap.
Incredibly, the players have been without a Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA) for almost five months.

The previous deal expired on October 31 last year and RLPA boss David Garnsey is still awaiting feedback from the newly formed Independent Commission to start negotiations toward a five-year CBA.
They are likely to start once the new broadcast deal is finalised, which is hoped to deliver enough funding to raise next year's salary cap to $5 million.
But influential players want the RLPA to petition for a percentage-based cap that automatically assures them more money should the game increase its revenue.
Before the meeting at Novotel Hotel, Civoniceva said player advocates had studied percentage pay scales in US sports and wanted the RLPA to pursue a similar system in the upcoming talks.
"It's something that the boys and other players have spoken to me about," said Civoniceva, the RLPA's chief player representative. "There's a few boys who want to discuss that and there's a particular player (Hannant) who's looked at different models around the world.
"There's a strong view that as a group that's the direction we should head in.
"We want to throw it around the meeting for discussion."
The 35-year-old statesman has regularly been left posted as a lone voice for his peers, who have shown limited interest in aggressively advancing their rights.
But that changed dramatically last night, with the Bulldogs and Panthers presenting their entire NRL squads for the 6pm meeting.
Cowboys skipper Johnathan Thurston rounded up 20 teammates to watch the meeting in Townsville, while Micheal Luck ensured the Warriors had a say from Auckland.
"There's a lot of things happening this year, with the Independent Commission and TV rights deal," Ennis said. "Too often in the past we as a player group have not been strong enough in standing up for our rights. That has to change. We have to get involved and that's why I brought our entire team to the meeting."
Civoniceva said: "It's been disappointing in the past, but players are beginning to change their mindset and understand the issues.
"There's been a lot better communication between all players and the RLPA, not just the captains and senior blokes."

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...v-rights-deal/comments-e6frexnr-1226306624289
so if the game starts loosing money due to lack of revenue in other areas do they get less.

Also lets.raise the minimum contracts first before worrying about your benjis and cams who will be the only ones that benefit.
 

Eels Dude

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I don't really get the thought process involved in this. If you pick just say a single percentage, you ignore where the rest of the money goes, and also what other expenses clubs have. The idea is to get the grant up to the same level as the salary cap anyway, so there already is a percentage, so to speak allocated to each club to pay players wages. If you increase the grant you're taking money out of other areas.
 

Doomednow

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The socialist in me wishes that they would suck it up, accept a bigger contract from a bigger broadcast deal, and let everything else get pumped into the good of the game. But, league was basically founded on professionalism, with players saying they wanted and deserved more money, and they may be right.

The capitalist in me thinks that they should work for their percentage, with the "superstars" earning additional payments on top of their salaries regardless of what club they are playing for. Would help retain anyone tempted by switching leagues or codes. Not sure how you would measure it though.
 

Noa

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The socialist in me wishes that they would suck it up, accept a bigger contract from a bigger broadcast deal, and let everything else get pumped into the good of the game. But, league was basically founded on professionalism, with players saying they wanted and deserved more money, and they may be right.

The capitalist in me thinks that they should work for their percentage, with the "superstars" earning additional payments on top of their salaries regardless of what club they are playing for. Would help retain anyone tempted by switching leagues or codes. Not sure how you would measure it though.

Shouldnt the socialist in you hope they'd form the strongest union possible and get the best deal possible ;-)
 
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