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NRL set for major salary cap review: Smith

El Diablo

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http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...new-vision-for-salary-cap-20130424-2if7y.html

Doyle offers new vision for salary cap

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April 24, 2013

Adrian Proszenko
Chief Rugby League Reporter

Jim Doyle has outlined his vision for the salary cap, promising to bring a more transparent system to ensure the world's best athletes are attracted to – rather than squeezed out of – the NRL.

Doyle was announced as the ARL Commission's new chief operating officer as part of an administrative shake-up. He will officially begin in the new role on May 20. While he will oversee a raft of responsibilities – including integrity, education and human resources issues – clubs will be most interested in his policing of the salary cap.

Incoming head of football Todd Greenberg has already spoken of his desire to recruit or retain the likes of Sonny Bill Williams and Israel Folau to further boost the NRL's star power. However, the clubs have been frustrated in their dealings with Ian Schubert and complained they have no right to appeal against his decisions.

"Any system in place can't be based on an individual's opinion": Doyle. Photo: Getty Images

Parramatta claim they lost any chance of snaring Folau because of the cumbersome registration process. Clubs are privately frustrated by the lack of transparency, and complain that he also does not provide any reasons for his rulings.

Doyle has promised that while the rules will be policed fairly, every effort will be made to ensure stars are attracted to the 13-man code. "Any system in place can't be based on an individual's opinion," he said. "We need to make sure, first and foremost, there is a huge amount of transparency in what is actually happening so there's good [processes] and systems in place.

"If there are hurdles, it's about trying to find the best possible solutions to overcome them rather than putting up a massive hurdle and say, 'Tough luck, that's it'.

"We want the NRL premiership to be the greatest competition in the world. We will have to look at everything to make that happen and we can't do that without the best athletes.

"We should always be looking at everything we can to attract the best athletes to the game.''

Doyle said he would create a system in which the clubs wanted to work with the ARLC in their quest for big-name recruits.

''That's one thing I'd like to look at: how we can try to change the concept of an audit being a negative thing and look it as a positive,'' he said. ''We want the NRL to assist the clubs rather than them thinking the NRL is spying on them.''

Rival football codes also have salary caps but have made exemptions to snare marquee players. The A-League bought Alessandro Del Piero, Emile Heskey and Shinji Ono to Australia, while the Australian Rugby Union provides central contracts to stars which are topped up by the provinces.

Doyle said he would consider those options and others, although his first priority would be to properly understand how the present NRL system works. ''It's a bit early for me to say everything we might do, but we'd do everything to ensure we have the right balance so we're not losing players because of some process,'' he said.

Williams' Roosters contract was only officially registered just days before the start of the season and there will be more intrigue when he comes off contract in October. The ARLC will need to decide whether possible boxing and union stints will come under the cap should he decide to remain in the NRL.

Doyle said that he would consider cap exemptions in special circumstances. ''If you want to expand into certain areas, then we may potentially need to make exceptions for a period of time,'' he said.''It's a logical thing to do if you're growing the game in an area, to have slightly different rules for a period and then come back in line with other clubs. Those types of things you would always consider."
 

El Diablo

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about time

Schubert has had too much power for too long and seems all over the shop in his rulings
 

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first job for Doyle is to f**k that merkin off forever...schubert has been the biggest joke in the game in years...he is the Greg Smith of administrators
 
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More to the point:

*They need to look at cap exemptions for clubs who develop players from emerging nations.
*There needs to be a way to help clubs sign union players, especially from overseas, not hinder them.
*And some reward for clubs who develop their own juniors to first grade level to help retain them.

So basically if you develop local talent, grow the talent pool, help emerging nations and strengthen the international game and its profile you are rewarded.
 
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More to the point:

*They need to look at cap exemptions for clubs who develop players from emerging nations.
*There needs to be a way to help clubs sign union players, especially from overseas, not hinder them.
*And some reward for clubs who develop their own juniors to first grade level to help retain them.

So basically if you develop local talent, grow the talent pool, help emerging nations and strengthen the international game and its profile you are rewarded.

Agree with all of this as long as its handled in a fair and even manner.
 

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To add to that east coast tiger. I would like to see clubs have catchments redrawn, which include country areas, with say 10-20% salary reduction for players who come their catchment area in the country. It would ensure nrl clubs put a lot more emphasis on ensuring any area they had, has great pathways to the top grade. Also then they could possibly offer resources such as coaches and players to these areas so that talent is developed properly.
 

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exemptions for local juniors is a must imo

this will encourage clubs to develop their own rather than relying on other clubs to the hard yards and then poach the best young talent
 
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To add to that east coast tiger. I would like to see clubs have catchments redrawn, which include country areas, with say 10-20% salary reduction for players who come their catchment area in the country. It would ensure nrl clubs put a lot more emphasis on ensuring any area they had, has great pathways to the top grade. Also then they could possibly offer resources such as coaches and players to these areas so that talent is developed properly.
No. I consciously didn't include any such thing for good reason. The problem with that is that some clubs just wouldn't do anything. This was brought up when they were talking about the "Territorial Draft" a few years ago. Clubs would be given a country area and they would have first choice of all the players in that area - just how they could prevent an individual signing with another club I don't know. But it wouldn't have worked, partly for that reason. Kids sign with anyone and everyone and you can't stop them. Plus some clubs would just take their pick and do nothing in return. It wouldn't be fair - not fair on the country area, the clubs that did make the effort or the kids in question. If you were really keen to get clubs to sign up country kids you would just have an across the board exemption for them. But that's starting to open the door for too many exemptions. At that rate there would be few players who were on the cap that weren't exept in some way.
 

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No. I consciously didn't include any such thing for good reason. The problem with that is that some clubs just wouldn't do anything. This was brought up when they were talking about the "Territorial Draft" a few years ago. Clubs would be given a country area and they would have first choice of all the players in that area - just how they could prevent an individual signing with another club I don't know. But it wouldn't have worked, partly for that reason. Kids sign with anyone and everyone and you can't stop them. Plus some clubs would just take their pick and do nothing in return. It wouldn't be fair - not fair on the country area, the clubs that did make the effort or the kids in question. If you were really keen to get clubs to sign up country kids you would just have an across the board exemption for them. But that's starting to open the door for too many exemptions. At that rate there would be few players who were on the cap that weren't exept in some way.


Would it be possible that a certain amount of the grant the NRL clubs gets from the ARLC must be spend on junior development/rep carnivals etc of country regions/groups?

Each club would be allocated an area or groups - sub committee runs the expenditure (NRL club plus Group/s reps). Any junior that signs with their allocated NRL club, the club receives a percentage discount; if the junior signs with another NRL club no discount applies.
 
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The MLS and I think other American sports leagues publish a list of player's salaries online, maybe the NRL could do that.
 

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I think we would have to be carefull with the number of exemptions the salary cap has.
 
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exemptions for local juniors is a must imo

this will encourage clubs to develop their own rather than relying on other clubs to the hard yards and then poach the best young talent




As long as our borders are redrawn to re include Randwick, Clovelly, Maroubra etc. You know, the Eastern Suburbs, I'm okay with it. But that's not ever going to happen.
 
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Would it be possible that a certain amount of the grant the NRL clubs gets from the ARLC must be spend on junior development/rep carnivals etc of country regions/groups?

Each club would be allocated an area or groups - sub committee runs the expenditure (NRL club plus Group/s reps). Any junior that signs with their allocated NRL club, the club receives a percentage discount; if the junior signs with another NRL club no discount applies.
There's a novel idea, some of the ARLC's billion going to the bush.

If they were going to do that they'd be better off giving directly to the CRL or even the groups/organisations themselves. It would achieve the same goal but still allow a free market for young players to sign with who they like. I don't see much point in involving the NRL clubs, especially against their will.
 

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exemptions for local juniors is a must imo

this will encourage clubs to develop their own rather than relying on other clubs to the hard yards and then poach the best young talent

What do you define as a local junior?

Some families are always moving. Not just from suburb to suburb, but also city to city. Its possible that the time a kid has reached 18 he could have played in a few different jumior districts.
 

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I think some areas are a given for Clubs (eg. Victoria for the Storm - though they should have NRL approved minimum commitment to territories)

I also think a territorial redraw is possible for other areas BUT I actually think that Clubs should have to BID for areas.

This could be done by drawing up agreements through creating financial and practical benefits for both the NRL Club and the local League.

For instance, the Mid North NSW Coast might become a specific NRL Clubs catchment Area (and thus the have salary cap exemptions on Mid North Coast players) given the right investment/agreement by the NRL Club into the local League.

The Roosters may try to snare such an area through specific investment and commitment to the local area (including trials/junior recruitment numbers/player appearances/financial commitment). That does mean that different local Leagues may have different periods of agreement. If the local League is unsatisfied with the Roosters (for instance) they might (after a contracted period) put their local League out there to change affiliations if the possibility exists for a better agreement with another Club.

I do however think that in some circumstances, border line areas should be pointed in a direction (eg. Far south coast - Raiders or Dragons?) Central Coast Knights or Manly or another team.

I think this could also create a strong branding and financial benefit to NRL Clubs through membership promotions/NRL Club badges or names on local Jerseys etc. All this would help Clubs extend their fan bases.
 
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Barriers to players from Papua New Guinea making their way into the NRL need to be broken down.

As far as I am aware, they face difficulty with Visa restrictions, which is why we see so few of them. It would be ideal for Jim Doyle's department to start working with government on making exemptions for certain players.

PNG national games always highlight what a gold mine the nation is for talent. It just needs to be nurtured with good coaching. A new approach would certainly fit with their new 'whole of game' mantra.
 

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