NRL to experiment rule changes in Round 20 dead rubbers

[AJB1102]

When the bunker is inevitably canned

You think we'll get rid of video ref technology?

 

[Marshall_magic]

You think we'll get rid of video ref technology?

Inevitably is probably the wrong word, but I can definitely see it going the way of the voluntary tackle.

 

[AJB1102]

Inevitably is probably the wrong word, but I can definitely see it going the way of the voluntary tackle.

Righto. I think vid ref is always gonna exist. It'd be like reverting to a landline home phone, I don't think you can go back now.

 

[Captain Apollo]

Righto. I think vid ref is always gonna exist. It'd be like reverting to a landline home phone, I don't think you can go back now.

The same media pundits who have carried on about its over reliance would win up carrying on about it being axed (if the NRL tried to). The NRL are in a no-win situation.

 

[Marshall_magic]

Righto. I think vid ref is always gonna exist. It'd be like reverting to a landline home phone, I don't think you can go back now.

It seems to be a massive grievance between fans, pundits and coaches. The admin this year has been all about speeding the game up. The bunker could be a casualty of this.

 

[AJB1102]

The same media pundits who have carried on about its over reliance would win up carrying on about it being axed (if the NRL tried to). The NRL are in a no-win situation.

"Everyone agrees everything's going swell" is not a headline which generates discussion, clicks and money. Its their job to stir controversy so correct, won't please em either way.

It seems to be a massive grievance between fans, pundits and coaches. The admin this year has been all about speeding the game up. The bunker could be a casualty of this.

There'll be many more grievances when howlers become more regular and despite having 30 different HD camera angles everyone just eats shit and enjoys it.

 

[Captain Apollo]

Following is from - https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/brad-fittlers-big-warning-to-nrl-over-speed-of-the-game-and-scrums/7e613ef4-9b46-4439-b540-809b19e757be?ref=BP_RSS_ninesport_0_fittler-s-grim-warning-over-nrl-rule-changes_230920

Brad Fittler's big warning to NRL over speed of the game and scrums
By Marc Churches

Rugby league great Brad Fittler has urged the NRL to avoid speeding up the game too much as the competition gets set to experiment with a number of rule changes for the final round of the season.

The NRL on Tuesday confirmed four rule changes during two matches of the final roundhad been approved by the Australian Rugby League Commission and would take place during the Broncos-Cowboys game on Thursday night and the Warriors-Sea Eagles game on Sunday.

According to an NRL release, the four rule changes trialled will be: the use of the "Six Again" rule for 10 metre infringements, handover for kicks into touch rather than a scrum, nominated forwards only in the scrum, and a change in Bunker referral process to reduce stoppages.

With the NRL having already reduced to one referee and going with the new six again rule for season 2020, Fittler said the game needed to be careful with the speed of play following a mounting injury toll among clubs in the COVID-19 interrupted year.

"I just don't know how far they want to go to speed the game up," Fittler told 2GB'sWide World of Sports Radio.

"If you go through the injuries this year, you've got to think that might have to do with the change of the game.

"I just don't know if we want to keep speeding the game up."

Fittler was also critical of the decision to reduce the number of scrums with a handover to take place when the ball is kicked into touch.

The NSW Origin coach said he was a fan of placing scrums in different parts of the field, but said it was vital they remained with players needing them to gain a much-needed break during play.

"One of the things I did enjoy this year was the scrum," he said.

"From the point of view of putting them in different parts of the field and there's been a lot more attack from the scrums.

"I know we're trying to get rid of the scrums because they feel like they have little purpose and there's little push.

"But what it does do, it limits the amount of people that are out and can defend.

"Maybe they should be keeping the people who are in the scrum, in the scrum longer. That way you get an opportunity for a 7 on 7 scenario out in the back.

"I l like it the way it is. The bunker is the area we can tweak with – quicken that process up.

"Players at some stage during a game, need a rest and that's what scrums are used for in the game at the moment."

Pretty much summed up what I said up thread.

On a related note about "speeding the game up", do our esteemed administrators forget Super League doing this (i.e. speeding the game up) in 1997. Just about everyone said it just made the game out to be like touch football.

 

[franklin2323]

It seems to be a massive grievance between fans, pundits and coaches. The admin this year has been all about speeding the game up. The bunker could be a casualty of this.

They want correct decisions more. I think the automatic bunker referrals is a good in between

 

[T-Boon]

It seems to be a massive grievance between fans, pundits and coaches. The admin this year has been all about speeding the game up. The bunker could be a casualty of this.

Yes I think the 6 again makes it look very touch footy like. One thing the game needs to do is go back to 5 metres that would destroy the speed of the play the ball as a thing.

 

[Pole]

Maybe we should pick games we think will be a bit boring throughout the season to try out whacky rules, you know to add some interest?

I hint a sense of sarcasm, but I agree with you. Get fans to vote on the rule changes, or better yet, bring back every school boys favourite rule: no rules.

In all seriousness, I fundamentally disagree with changing the rules in these games just because... it sends clear message to the fans and players, these games don';t matter, you can't blame the players for not putting in 100% or fans not showing up, when the league is happy to experiment with the rules.

These rule changes should have been trialed in some preseason games.

PS- my mate and I started a Storm fan podcast and we have been profiling fallen clubs, we did one on the Reds a few weeks back. I would be keen for your feedback!

 

[T-Boon]

In all seriousness, I fundamentally disagree with changing the rules in these games just because... it sends clear message to the fans and players, these games don';t matter, you can't blame the players for not putting in 100% or fans not showing up, when the league is happy to experiment with the rules.

That is already the case. They are trialing them in games that don't matter. These games are less meaningful than trial games. Perfect time to trial rule changes.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

No doubt tries to Donkeys from blatantly forward passes with the touchie right in line will continue to be allowed...

Murdoch's DONKEYS can't be allowed to finish with Nigella Lawson's spoon when Rupert pays the bills.

 

[T-Boon]

"But what it does do, it limits the amount of people that are out and can defend.

"Maybe they should be keeping the people who are in the scrum, in the scrum longer. That way you get an opportunity for a 7 on 7 scenario out in the back.

Fittler has been reading my cave threads.
This is exactly what they need to do. The scrum should stay packed until the ball is passed the scrum line/advantage line or what ever it is called.

 

[Knight76]

Saw the cows no try decision tonight and didnt like it.

To award the try, points go on the board crowd is celebrating, and then suddenly its taken away is ridiculous.

Always has been a try once the ref blows that whistle. This is just going to annoy the shit out of fans at the game who see the ref declare a try, cant hear the ref say to check it and have no idea why the try was taken away. Almost needs an nfl style ref sound system to ecplain the decision.

The old way was better. Crowd see the ref signal to check it, see no try or try signalled and can watch the screen at the game, and can hear the bunkers decision.

 

[Perth Red]

Saw the cows no try decision tonight and didnt like it.

To award the try, points go on the board crowd is celebrating, and then suddenly its taken away is ridiculous.

Always has been a try once the ref blows that whistle. This is just going to annoy the shit out of fans at the game who see the ref declare a try, cant hear the ref say to check it and have no idea why the try was taken away. Almost needs an nfl style ref sound system to ecplain the decision.

The old way was better. Crowd see the ref signal to check it, see no try or try signalled and can watch the screen at the game, and can hear the bunkers decision.

Id be taking the kick ASAP!

 

[Knight76]

Id be taking the kick ASAP!

They mentioned that on the coverage and said the ref would stop the conversion until the review is finished.

Honestly dont see the point. The same review process needs to happen, and awarding the try and trying to get a quick review on the fly to keep the game flowing will just lead to more mistakes.

 

[Perth Red]

They mentioned that on the coverage and said the ref would stop the conversion until the review is finished.

Honestly dont see the point. The same review process needs to happen, and awarding the try and trying to get a quick review on the fly to keep the game flowing will just lead to more mistakes.

id like to see that! What the ref blows a try, then blows to stop the clock whilst the vr reviews everything? What’s the point, just send up every try for review.

 

[greenBV4]

When Fatty was asked tonight what he thought of the rule changes he replied with a question
This question was simple, but at the same time important - and shines a light on a big issue.

He asked how fast the HQ actually wants the game to get, the followed up with "I don't think they know"

Not only is this true for these most recent rule changes, but its true for every facet of our game

I dont think anyone at HQ has any clue what they want any part of our game to look like in the future, whether it be expansion, rules, number of teams, stadiums, broadcasting - anything!

Every decision that is made (or more frequently not made) seems to be on a whim, just an "oh this could be a good idea lets see how it goes", with no thought of the further afield future, no planning, no building towards anything.

And this is the biggest problem with Rugby League

 

[greenBV4]

Dead rubber or not no rule changes should of been "trialed" in a premiership game - its just straight up unproffessional, and he whole point we have trails - to trial things!

 

[siv]

The no try rule is the same as when a dropout or 20m restart gets overturned

But I would hate to lose a game from a bunker howler in this manner

The only way you now know it's a REAL try is when the kicker moves in for the conversion