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NRL v SUperleague according to Nathan Brown

elbusto

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Nathan Brown column: Giants boss on...NRL v Super League

Oct 1 2009 by Chris Roberts, Huddersfield Daily Examiner
Examiner Rugby League reporter Chris Roberts puts the questions to Giants coach Nathan Clarke.
THIS is obviously your first year in Super League after spending all your career in the Australian NRL with St George. How have you found it?
Very enjoyable.
It is a little different to the NRL but, at the end of the day, it’s rugby league and it’s a very good competition.
But as well as being a great rugby league experience, it’s also been a fantastic life experience for my family and myself, and we’ve thoroughly enjoyed every minute of it.
And in terms of my development as a coach, I always thought Huddersfield would be a good move for me.
It’s proved just that, and that’s added to my sense of enjoyment.
There have certainly been a lot more positives than negatives, and we can’t wait to get back for the start of next season – although I think we are all looking forward to getting back down onto the beach!
In actual terms of standard, how do the two competitions compare?
I think the major issue is the number of top players the NRL clubs can pick from compared to those in Super League.
There’s a vaster pool of players in Australia, and that’s an area the English game really has to consider.
From the moment I got here, I couldn’t understand why junior rugby league is played in the winter in freezing cold weather.
It just doesn’t seem as if any common sense is used.
Playing rugby league would surely be a far better proposition for kids if they were playing in the summer when the weather is so much better and they’re also not having to compete with soccer.
I know this is the way it’s always been in the past, but I believe it’s something the game’s authorities really should take into account.
Then we move on to the difference between the two competitions in playing terms. The biggest difference in this respect is that the Australian game is played at a higher intensity for longer periods, which is something that is then reflected in the international game.
But having now been involved in the game over here myself I do believe there are a lot of English players who could do well in the NRL.
Gareth Ellis has had a very good year at Wests Tigers and I’m sure Sam Burgess will do well at South Sydney.
But the key to success for an English player trying to establish themselves in the NRL would be to find the right club and get the right coaching.
If they do that, then there’s no reason at all why they wouldn’t become a big hit with the Australian crowds.
Put it this way, I don’t think it’s beyond the realms of possibility for tmore Australian clubs to come to England and start raiding the Super League .
 

Lambretta

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Nice interview and some good ideas from Nathan.

Junior development taking part in the summer when the weather is better is an excellent idea - but quite how you arrange that when the summer arrives on a Tuesday afternoon in May one year and then on a Sunday morning in September the next year and lasts three days on average is anyones guess :p

The key though is to not be in direct competition with football and Nathan is right in that respect.
 

deluded pom?

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Nice interview and some good ideas from Nathan.

Junior development taking part in the summer when the weather is better is an excellent idea - but quite how you arrange that when the summer arrives on a Tuesday afternoon in May one year and then on a Sunday morning in September the next year and lasts three days on average is anyones guess :p

The key though is to not be in direct competition with football and Nathan is right in that respect.


The Hull and District amateur rugby league juniors at the bottom end already play in the "Summer" and I believe a couple of other leagues do too. Why they suddenly jump back to Winter when they reach a certain age is beyond me. If the game is to progress then I think the juniors need to be the ones that take the amateur game into a "Summer" season whereby once they start as kids they then continue through to open age during the warmer months. The problem is that a lot of BARLA clubs would dig their heels in and refuse to play in the "Summer" and we would probably see a breakaway league set up.
 

WireMan

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The problem with summer rugby is that kids go on holiday. You can't have a team when half the kids my go away on the first week of the summer hols. It wouldn't work.

The key is to provide more indoor training for the kids. Through leisure centres and schools.

Anyway the weather isn't that cold. I can see why Brown would think so coming from Sydney but its just a bit of rain. It turns Boys into Men. ;-)

Overall a good read, its nice to see another Aussie come over with predetermined view of the standard of players who now thinks many of them would be able to suceed in NRL. Maybe we ain't as bad as Journos like to say we are?
 

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The problem with summer rugby is that kids go on holiday. You can't have a team when half the kids my go away on the first week of the summer hols. It wouldn't work.

The key is to provide more indoor training for the kids. Through leisure centres and schools.

Anyway the weather isn't that cold. I can see why Brown would think so coming from Sydney but its just a bit of rain. It turns Boys into Men. ;-)

Overall a good read, its nice to see another Aussie come over with predetermined view of the standard of players who now thinks many of them would be able to suceed in NRL. Maybe we ain't as bad as Journos like to say we are?


have u ever tried to pass a rugby ball that is covered in 2 inches of mud...? or tried to run through mud when it sucks ur boot off?? thats the reason we shouldnt play in winter.. you cant produce any skills... the only problem is that the ground will be harder an some parents are wary of injuries
 

deluded pom?

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have u ever tried to pass a rugby ball that is covered in 2 inches of mud...? or tried to run through mud when it sucks ur boot off?? thats the reason we shouldnt play in winter.. you cant produce any skills... the only problem is that the ground will be harder an some parents are wary of injuries


It's always effing raining so we can give the harder pitches a good watering.
 

deluded pom?

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The problem with summer rugby is that kids go on holiday. You can't have a team when half the kids my go away on the first week of the summer hols. It wouldn't work.

The key is to provide more indoor training for the kids. Through leisure centres and schools.

Anyway the weather isn't that cold. I can see why Brown would think so coming from Sydney but its just a bit of rain. It turns Boys into Men. ;-)


So a few kids go on holiday, big deal. If need be we suspend the season for a couple of weeks/a month. As for the cold turning boys into men it more often turns boys into video game nerds.
 

WireMan

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Delay the comp for a month. You mean over summer? When should those delayed games be played? Winter. Hence the competion would be a winter one.

People who want to play the game will play it. Rain doesn't stop people playing Football. Anyway this year it rained all summer and has been nice for the last few weeks, so counting on British weather to do what its supposed to isn't really worth it.

Train indoors, tackle on mats, develop skills using tag rugby.
 

Evil Homer

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Delay the comp for a month. You mean over summer? When should those delayed games be played? Winter. Hence the competion would be a winter one.

People who want to play the game will play it. Rain doesn't stop people playing Football. Anyway this year it rained all summer and has been nice for the last few weeks, so counting on British weather to do what its supposed to isn't really worth it.

Train indoors, tackle on mats, develop skills using tag rugby.
Your posts are at times absolutely baffling.
 

deluded pom?

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Delay the comp for a month. You mean over summer? When should those delayed games be played? Winter. Hence the competion would be a winter one.

People who want to play the game will play it. Rain doesn't stop people playing Football. Anyway this year it rained all summer and has been nice for the last few weeks, so counting on British weather to do what its supposed to isn't really worth it.

Train indoors, tackle on mats, develop skills using tag rugby.


Wouldn't you organise a league that accomodates a month long break? So rather than having a twelve team division you might have a ten team division so as not to have to play in the colder months. Besides what's to stop you playing any catchup games when the nights are light and the weather warmer?
 

Hanscholo

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The problem with summer rugby is that kids go on holiday. You can't have a team when half the kids my go away on the first week of the summer hols. It wouldn't work.

The key is to provide more indoor training for the kids. Through leisure centres and schools.

Anyway the weather isn't that cold. I can see why Brown would think so coming from Sydney but its just a bit of rain. It turns Boys into Men. ;-)

Overall a good read, its nice to see another Aussie come over with predetermined view of the standard of players who now thinks many of them would be able to suceed in NRL. Maybe we ain't as bad as Journos like to say we are?

Cricket and Baseball comps in australia from my experience handle it in their stride, there is often some issues filling sides either side of the breaks but in the middle its fine. unless your telling me that english kids somehow have 12 weeks holiday away every year.
 

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