NRL will not force clubs to release players for Denver Test

[adamkungl]

The NRL hasn't cottoned onto the fact that "Play Union, see the world. Play League, see Penrith" isn't intended as a complement to League

 

[RL The greatest game]

Rugby League is a case of the tail wagging the dog so nobody should be surprised to see a club competition yield its stick.

This one-off mid-year test should never have been played a half a world away. It was silly to organise it in the first place. The short turn around games need to be played just down the road so you dont piss-off the puppet master.

SOO should be played on a stand alone weekend giving the players plenty of recovery time, if people are concerned about player welfare.

 

[siv]

Any whats this 3 weeks insurance excess thing about ?

Guys any feedback on what this is about ?

 

[franklin2323]

Still changing time zones. Also with Denver being in the Rockies, it’s more taxing through less oxygen at higher levels.

The other problem is lack of recovery time.

Super (sic) Rugby has similar travel, but games are scheduled with appropriate breaks for travel.

Finally some sense. It is great in theory and will be a huge benefit to the game as a whole but of course the clubs will be reserved. When the likes of Chelsea etc come here they stay for far longer then a week.

No reason can't do a 3 match series in various Nth American locations at the end of the year. I think the players will get their way an it will go ahead this year and changes will be made for next season

 

[TheFrog]

The NRL hasn't cottoned onto the fact that "Play Union, see the world. Play League, see Penrith" isn't intended as a complement to League

Well you won't see Penrith playing rugger. The team got booted out of the comp.

 

[adamkungl]

No reason can't do a 3 match series in various Nth American locations at the end of the year. I think the players will get their way an it will go ahead this year and changes will be made for next season

The bloke putting millions of his own cash into it seems to think that running against the NFL and NBA the first time round isn't such a good idea but what does he know I guess, Blake Solly thinks it's dumb

 

[franklin2323]

The bloke putting millions of his own cash into it seems to think that running against the NFL and NBA the first time round isn't such a good idea but what does he know I guess, Blake Solly thinks it's dumb

Why does it need to be a big game on? Toronto and Hawaii could host a game each for starters with zero NFL influence in the way. Pick a 30k seater and build it from that. When he brought the MLB out here it was an extended over more than a week for a reason

 

[adamkungl]

Why does it need to be a big game on? Toronto and Hawaii could host a game each for starters with zero NFL influence in the way. Pick a 30k seater and build it from that. When he brought the MLB out here it was an extended over more than a week for a reason

Toronto isn't in the US and Hawaii may as well not be for all the notice it would attract

Dead set the bloke has the Denver Broncos promoting the NRL and over here we're upset because it affects half a round of suburban footy

 

[franklin2323]

Toronto isn't in the US and Hawaii may as well not be for all the notice it would attract

Dead set the bloke has the Denver Broncos promoting the NRL and over here we're upset because it affects half a round of suburban footy

Toronto have the Wolfpack and will host games when they host the WC. The is far better ways to get this off the ground then it has been done

 

[Springs09]

Toronto isn't in the US and Hawaii may as well not be for all the notice it would attract

Dead set the bloke has the Denver Broncos promoting the NRL and over here we're upset because it affects half a round of suburban footy

Mate come on, how is Wollongong ever going to recover if Widdop and Graham don't play against the Eels in Round 16?

People are focusing too much on silly potential long term gains of international rugby league and not enough on the important short term things like the Dragons for and against, Thursday night TV ratings and betting prices.

 

[Iafeta]

If you are talking about officials from those heavily affected clubs, of course they are. It’s their job to protect the best interests of their club. It’s their fiduciary responsibility in some cases.

If the match had minimal impact on said clubs I doubt we’d be having this discussion and all and sundry would be fine going to the Rockies. It’s a great part of the world.

 

[Springs09]

If you are talking about officials from those heavily affected clubs, of course they are. It’s their job to protect the best interests of their club. It’s their fiduciary responsibility in some cases.

If the match had minimal impact on said clubs I doubt we’d be having this discussion and all and sundry would be fine going to the Rockies. It’s a great part of the world.

'Heavily affected' pfft, clubs are barely affected unless there are major injuries to come out of the game. They all get their players back the next weekend, it's the clubs that have come out with this 'oh we can't play those players because they will have only got off the plane 2 days before' rubbish. As said many times, clubs (including the Warriors) have been perfectly okay with playing players that have been involved in the ANZAC Test only the night before. It's hypocritical garbage.

 

[franklin2323]

'Heavily affected' pfft, clubs are barely affected unless there are major injuries to come out of the game. They all get their players back the next weekend, it's the clubs that have come out with this 'oh we can't play those players because they will have only got off the plane 2 days before' rubbish. As said many times, clubs (including the Warriors) have been perfectly okay with playing players that have been involved in the ANZAC Test only the night before. It's hypocritical garbage.

Ahh yes a 2 hour flight over one timezone compares to a 20 hour flight. To play a game in attitude.

Kearney has conceded his guys will play, Burgess bro's and Graham said they will play. They will field two decent enough teams. Hopefully plan better to get everyone on side and play more games next year

 

[Springs09]

Ahh yes a 2 hour flight over one timezone compares to a 20 hour flight. To play a game in attitude.

Kearney has conceded his guys will play, Burgess bro's and Graham said they will play. They will field two decent enough teams. Hopefully plan better to get everyone on side and play more games next year

Yes it does indeed when it's the day after compared to a week later. Use your brain.

And no one has yet pointed out to us what exactly is so damaging about a long flight other than jetlag, which is nothing compared to recovering from a game of high intensity rugby league.

 

[adamkungl]

Yes it does indeed when it's the day after compared to a week later. Use your brain.

And no one has yet pointed out to us what exactly is so damaging about a long flight other than jetlag, which is nothing compared to recovering from a game of high intensity rugby league.

Watching 6 movies and having a nap is extremely tough on the body.
Not to mention the sub-par plane food

They're professional athletes it's not like they go out and get utterly tanked after most rep games or anything

 

[franklin2323]

Yes it does indeed when it's the day after compared to a week later. Use your brain.

And no one has yet pointed out to us what exactly is so damaging about a long flight other than jetlag, which is nothing compared to recovering from a game of high intensity rugby league.

So every single player that plays Origin will back up for their clubs then?

You are assuming no player will get a knock or strain a muscle. Then to put them on a plane. The Wolfpack don't play in England every 2nd week for a reason.

 

[Springs09]

So every single player that plays Origin will back up for their clubs then?

You are assuming no player will get a knock or strain a muscle. Then to put them on a plane. The Wolfpack don't play in England every 2nd week for a reason.

No, but they all used to and it's usually the clubs that stand them down. The same with the ANZAC Test, majority of players used to back up after it. You can bet that if a club's season is in the balance their Origin players will be backing up. That's not the point anyway, if the clubs are whinging about players not being able to back up after this test they should be whinging about Origin just as much shouldn't they?

Every player will get a knock and strain a muscle. Are they pro rugby league players or what?

Oh right because the Kiwis and Poms are going to the US every 2nd week aren't they? How is that even remotely comparable? They are going once, a lot like how every English Championship side are going to Toronto once.

 

[Iafeta]

'Heavily affected' pfft, clubs are barely affected unless there are major injuries to come out of the game. They all get their players back the next weekend, it's the clubs that have come out with this 'oh we can't play those players because they will have only got off the plane 2 days before' rubbish. As said many times, clubs (including the Warriors) have been perfectly okay with playing players that have been involved in the ANZAC Test only the night before. It's hypocritical garbage.

The Warriors have been supportive of those matches. To say they’re perfectly okay is very naive and very incorrect.

You use the Warriors example here. They play in Townsville and Cronulla on either end of this trip. The last update from the club is for those players selected the Warriors will not select them for either match, to give the Kiwis players a chance to recover. They are putting welfare at an optimum.

To say that’s not heavily affected is wrong.

 

[franklin2323]

The Warriors have been supportive of those matches. To say they’re perfectly okay is very naive and very incorrect.

You use the Warriors example here. They play in Townsville and Cronulla on either end of this trip. The last update from the club is for those players selected the Warriors will not select them for either match, to give the Kiwis players a chance to recover. They are putting welfare at an optimum.

To say that’s not heavily affected is wrong.

This is the sort of thing with co-operation (before the draw is done) could give the Warriors home games either side. Thurs night before. Players can leave earlier. Give them a Sunday game after to give a few days recovery.

 

[deal.with.it]

Still changing time zones. Also with Denver being in the Rockies, it’s more taxing through less oxygen at higher levels.

The other problem is lack of recovery time.

Super (sic) Rugby has similar travel, but games are scheduled with appropriate breaks for travel.

Well that’s just not accurate. Did you not read the QLD Reds article?
They travelled to Argentina, South Africa and back to Brisbane within a tad over a week. Zero injuries.

The altitude/time zone argument has been proven wrong by science.

You can try to disagree with science but it will be far from flattering for you...