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NSW Origin side 2010

adamkungl

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1. Gidley. (C).
2. McManus.
3. Jennings.
4. Cooper.
5. Monaghan.
6. Mullen.
7. Kimmorley.
8. Cross.
9. Ennis.
10. White.
11. Simpson.
12. Watmough.
13. Stewart.

14. De Gois.
15. Houston.
16. Poore.
17. Bailey.

Johns and Harrogan would be fapping themselves into a frenzy on The Footy Show
 

perverse

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there is far too little gidley hate in this thread.

can we get some pitchforks and torches in here already?

:roll:

anyway... posted this over a month ago in one of the other identical, completely redundant threads. i stand by it (with the exception of hindmarsh dropping out due to rep retirement) -

perverse said:
My Backline -
1. Brett Stewart
2. Jarryd Hayne
3. Timana Tahu
4. Josh Morris
5. Brett Morris
6. Jarrod Mullen
7. Todd Carney

good combinations in the 3/4 line, the future as i saw it 3 years ago in the halves, and i can't leave brett stewart out. this setup makes assumptions that tahu and carney both come back to the NRL strongly, which i believe they both will. raiders fans would probably have it 6. Carney, 7. Mullen (or mullen left-right-out)... but i think both offer more in the current positions, and i still see massive things in both their futures... especially if they get to play together at rep level often.

The Pack -
8. Luke Bailey
9. Michael Ennis
10. Michael Weyman
11. Anthony Watmough
12. Paul Gallen
13. Greg Bird

geez, the pack was hard to put together. i think NSW's main problem is we have a lot of choice in the forwards, but no incredible standouts. watmough after his performance this year has a mortgage on 1 spot... and i think hindmarshs attitude and workload is invaluable in any team. we need a couple of blokes on the field who remember what it was like to win one. Ennis is hooker, and i probably wouldn't even have farah as second in line. too many cooks with him in the team. the rest pretty much speaks for itself.

The Bench -
14. Kurt Gidley
15. Tom Learoyd Lahrs
16. Justin Poore
17. Mason (i think it's safe to say that if he's ever going to have a big year, this will be it)

size, impact, flexibility. the only position that is necessary to justify is gidley... and he is the best utility going around. had a poor year last year, and as a knights fan i hope he lifts some next year, because we're paying him a motza.

this team can beat QLD. the only player decision i erred on was the halves... i wanted to put kimmorley at 7 and mullen at 6... but i'd love to see carney tear it up next year, as i'm a big fan of his game.
 
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perverse

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Except Hindmarsh is retired from represenative football.
forgot about that.

gallen moves in to fill his position, gotta find myself another bench 2nd rower. hmmm... such a shame... hindy should have never left the NSW team in the first place...
 
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You guys are absolutely kidding yourselves.

McManus owns Hayne he is a potential the most damaging centre in the game if he plays for NSW bone rattling defence, can break the line easily. Safe as a bank on the wing and you wont find a classier finisher.

Gidley owns Hayne, Spectacular defence, speed to burn and a creative playmaker.

Simpson is the best back rower in the game bar none and is an exceptional front rower too, no better defender and his fringe running is probably the best ever in the game.

Houston is all class.

And De Gois while not as good as Ennis owns that pretender Farah.

Hayne choking in the grandfinal proved just how good he is, and he proved he isn't a rep player in the 4 nations. Average club player at best. Alan Tongue has more spark.
 

1 Eyed TEZZA

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There is actually a hint that Hindy may come out of rep retirement.

I think we have plenty of options in various positions, but no one in any of our positions has stood out apart from Jarryd Hayne. Jarryd stared on the wing for the Blues but his impact for Parra at fullback was incredible. He still has some defencive immaturities with his fullback play so I wouldnt object to leaving him on the wing with Stewart at fullback. But only if Stewart is the fullback, no one else.

I think we also need to incorperate club combinations in attack. If we can have 2 or 3 club combinations in the side, then I think that will help with the comfort and flow of our attack. So id like to see Kimmorley and Josh Morris together. Soward, Cooper and Brett Morris. Hayne and Tahu, etc etc.

We also then have players like Jennings, Lawrence, Carney, Pearce, Mullen, etc etc, all competing for positions, but they were there last year aswell and to be honest, none of them really stepped up and stood out. And thats what I think NSW selectors need to do. Get the possible selections of players together now and tell them that the ones who stand up, who take leadership on the field for their team and make an impact, consistantly.

Fullbacks we have Stewart, Hayne, Gidley and possibly Mini.
Wing I think is locked up as Brett Morris and Jarryd Hayne (or Brett Stewart)
Centers therse a few choices, Cooper, Jennings, Lawrence, Tahu, J.Morris, and at a stretch Lyon and Monahaghn. (Id even consider Mad Dog, very very strong man, can contain Inglis)
Five eights, Soward, Carney, Mullen, Barrett or if we wanted to basically go for an extra forward there is Bird and Sutton.
Halfbacks we have Kimmorley, Pearce, Carney, Mullen and Wallace. None of which I have faithin other then Kimmorley for his experience but I do like Mullens skills with the boot and his calm head.

The forward I think will work themselves out aslong as we dont have any softies in the pack. Farah and Ennis can both win the series for the Blues so no concern there.

My team, assuming the players I select are performing to what we know they can.
1. Hayne
2. J.Morris (I can see Tahu being a mentor for him through out the series. One day I think J.Morris will be a long term center and Tahus can have a great influence on that)
3. Tahu
4. Cooper (been there, reliable, we know what we will get from him. Will shut down Hodges which solves one problem)
5. B.Morris
6. Soward (mainly for his kicking game, its great and he can be an x-factor. Wouldnt be dissapointed to see Carney there (Carney is one talented player) or Mullen (whom I think is untapped and a potiential captain with the right guidence))
7. Kimmorley (experience)
8. Poore
9. Ennis (get into Cameron Smiths ear, like Smithy did to Buderus)
10. Weyman
11. Hindmarsh (captain, show me someone better)
12. Gallen
13. Watmough

14. Farah (Interchange hooker, can fill in at half. Can be like Shaun Berrigan if given free reign)
15. Lewis (utility, can play center and second row easily and effectivly)
16. Ryles (fingers crossed he finds form, he actually was playing well before he left the NRL)
17. TLL

There are some iffy selections in there, Like Poore, Creagh, Cooper, Ryles, etc etc. But I think that side has a mix of experience, hard headedness and some flair while also looking towards the future.

But our biggest problem is that we have alot of really good players who can even dominate the entire QLD side. Just none of them have stepped up and its been that way for a few years. Guys like Mason, O'Meley, Grothe, Ryles, Hoffman, O'Donnell, Kite, G.Stewart, J.Perry and others whom I just cant think of at the moment.

There is no player, other then Jarryd Hayne, who has performed so well that they cannot be refused a spot in the side and that needs to be addressed by the selectors before the season starts.
 
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perverse

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great post tezza... you've justified your selections well and i don't mind the team at all. couldn't agree more regarding our players not standing up. flashes of brilliance all over the park, but there seems to be something missing in the mentality. the hunger is missing.

i think you will see mullen off his leash a bit this year. Brian Smith had a very tight ship at the knights... and you could see our halves stifling their natural game at times in favour of instruction from the coach.
 
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Gaba

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People arent thinking straight even though some have picked good teams there is no way in the world while no plans Bellamy as coach will pick those sides.

Reason why he picks storm players LIKE QUIN, TURNER ETC because they know they have to come up wiTH the game plans while playing and i repeat that what bellamy expects the other nsw players do.Come up wiht plans while they are playing, so far the non storm players in the nsw team what have come up with thier own game plans
from last year the only player is hayne ,


stewart will be useless in a team coached by Bellamy because stewart relys on the team set plays, he isnt really a player what can make something out of nothing and there will be no set plays in the nsw team by bellamy
so gidley is more likely to be fullback due to the fact of coming up with a plan on the field, because even he would be more dangerous then setwart in a bellamy coach team

NSW are no show what so ever , surely this will be the last year of no plans Bellamy coaching career in state of origin
 
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Dutchy

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Gaba. I am not being rude or anything, but I have a couple of questions for you.

1) Do you have brain to hands downs?
2) Have you ever made sense?
 

Gaba

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Gaba. I am not being rude or anything, but I have a couple of questions for you.

1) Do you have brain to hands downs?
2) Have you ever made sense?

Because you have been wrong that many times and wont answer my similar quesiton i put to you

i will answer yours ,when you answer mine when i asked you a month ago


Because you dont like it when someone types stewart isnt as good as you think he is

Learn to face criticism , stewart is not a god nor is he going to win manly the grand final by himself
 
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Dutchy

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1) Do you have brain to hands downs?
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Because you have been wrong that many times and wont answer my similar quesiton put to you

When you answer it , i will answer yours


Because you like it when someone types stewart isnt as good as you think he is

Learn to face criticism , stewart is not a god nor is he going ot single win manly the grand final

What the f**k?
 

Dutchy

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Ok. After a few headache tablets and hiring someone who does well in the field of Linguistics. I think I understand your post.

What question did you ask ME a month ago Gaba?
 

adamkungl

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gaba said:
Reason why he picks storm players LIKE QUIN, TURNER ETC because they know they have to come up wiTH the game plans while playing and i repeat that what bellamy expects the other nsw players do.Come up wiht plans while they are playing, so far the non storm players in the nsw team what have come up with thier own game plans
from last year the only player is hayne ,

WTF does this mean?
 
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