NSW team lists and insults thread 2018

[Liddell]

If Cleary plays even a single game before the team are picked and pretty much picks up where he left off, you have to pick him. Only time you wouldn’t is if he has a shocker and plays like a mess.

 

[Liddell]

keary looks good and would suit origin, concern for him is that he and maloney are both very similar players. both are your running/support type 5/8s. although id be loathe to pick him pearce may be the best option for maloney. moses and moylan are both aids right now. i think its pretty clear moses was the one they were going to push for but his and parras (lack of) form has put that to bed.

Surely not Pearce. No matter how well he’s always going the guy just turns to shit in blue. I’d go Brooks before Pearce.

Moses would’ve gone close with after Freddy’s time with him in the World Cup. Thank god he and parra are struggling.

 

[herbert henry1908]

If Cleary plays even a single game before the team are picked and pretty much picks up where he left off, you have to pick him. Only time you wouldn’t is if he has a shocker and plays like a mess.

It’s the position you pick him in that’s key.

He’s not ready to lead the team around the park, I’d have him on the bench, or perhaps playing 5/8.

 

[herbert henry1908]

maloney should be the only guy guarenteed a spot, whether its 6 or 7 doesnt matter as he plays the same either way. cleary would be the obvious match but i wouldnt throw him in if he's only played a game or two back

brooks is the other form half but id want him to do this for another 12 months before being seriously considered.

He hasn’t played the same way for the panthers.

At 7 he’s led the team around the park, at 6 he actually looked pretty lost playing second fiddle to Cleary.

He should be the first receiver for NSW.

 

[SBD82]

This is going to be unpopular, but I'm going to say it.

JDB > Jurbo.

Fire away.

 

[isaiah]

Surely not Pearce. No matter how well he’s always going the guy just turns to shit in blue. I’d go Brooks before Pearce.

Moses would’ve gone close with after Freddy’s time with him in the World Cup. Thank god he and parra are struggling.

I like the phrase, "turns to shit in blue"

 

[Old Time Tiger]

I think at the start of the year it would have been Cleary at 7.

The way Maloney has gone at 7, I'd now go Maloney 7 and Keary at 6 but wouldn'y be surprised and would be happy with Cleary and Maloney.

It can't be Brooks at 7, OK he has done well this year but that's it, this year.
It can never be Moses at 6 or 7 and yes it scares me how Fittler spoke about him earlier in the year.
It can't be Moylan at 1, 2, 6.
Could it be Jack Bird at 6 ?

 

[Spot On]

This is going to be unpopular, but I'm going to say it.

JDB > Jurbo.

Fire away.

No argument here although for mine it's close with Jack belting blokes in one-on-one text book technique and seemingly developing a bit more attack and ball playing. Jake a solid, low defender as well with a more attack in him. Both great players and both deserving to be included.

 

[SBD82]

No argument here although for mine it's close with Jack belting blokes in one-on-one text book technique and seemingly developing a bit more attack and ball playing. Jake a solid, low defender as well with a more attack in him. Both great players and both deserving to be included.

I think it's close too. Jake's ballplaying is obviously superior, but the domination that JDB brings to the middle of the field is such a huge advantage that i think we'd be better off going with him.

Probably a null point at this stage though. Only injury will stop Jurbo's name being read out at #13 in origin 1.

 

[OldPanther]

Tedesco/Trbjoevic
Ferguson
Roberts
Mitchell
Addo-carr
Green
Maloney
Trbjoevic
?
Lodge
Cordner
Jackson
Graham

Klemmer
Bird
James
Frizzell

Tedesco has a good response for this:

 

[OldPanther]

1 Tedesco
2 Cotric
3 Mitchell
4 Trbojevic
5 Mansour
6 Moylan
7 Cleary
8 Klemmer
9 Peats
10 Vaughan
11 Cordner (c)
12 Frizell
13 Trbojevic
14 Bird
15 Campbell Gillard
16 De Belin
17 Graham

Tedesco was one of our best players last series, although he hasnt had the best start to the year it would be classic NSW to drop him after one series in which he was great. Cotric is my bolter, strong runner, good under the high ball and will be part of the team for a long time. Mitchell is a risk but I belive its worth it. I think Trbojevic will be fantastic in the centers, he won't have to take the hard runs bringing back the ball and can attack one on one.

Hopefully Cleary is fit and back in time. I want a young halves combination who can grow over time. I thougth Moylan was the best 5/8 we have had in years when he played there, Cleary and Moylan have alos played together and would have a combination. I went with Peats here but he is under huge pressure. Very close to picking Cook but went with Peats for now.

I think the foward pack looks very strong, I really like the idea of a mobile bench who can lift speed off the game when they come on. Vaughan, RCG and De Belin have to be picked imo. A lot of versatilty in the bench aswell. Bird is the perfect utility player

Peachy has proven to be the better utility.

 

[big hit!]

ch 7 report last night from Massoud suggesting there is going to be a massive clean out.

he mentioned the only certainties are Cordner, the Trbojevic bros, and Maloney.

still considering Pearce - Finchy LOL


The players from last series that deserve to return are Klemmer, Jake Trbojevic, Bird, Dugan. Josh is bad news -> don't want him around new younger players. The other 3 should be there.

 

[OldPanther]

ch 7 report last night from Massoud suggesting there is going to be a massive clean out.

he mentioned the only certainties are Cordner, the Trbojevic bros, and Maloney.

still considering Pearce - Finchy LOL


The players from last series that deserve to return are Klemmer, Jake Trbojevic, Bird, Dugan. Josh is bad news -> don't want him around new younger players. The other 3 should be there.

That sounds good. Don't think Bird is what people think. He's very average these days.

 

[DOGS AND EELS!!!]

Can't believe Tyson Frizell isn't a certainty.

 

[big hit!]

Can't believe Tyson Frizell isn't a certainty.

he probably is. i think the uncertainty is how he will be used. He was the odd-man out last series to accommodate Graham coming off the bench at 20 mins of the 1st half onto his preferred left-side, which shifted Cordner onto Frizell's right, and Frizell onto the bench. Frizell then would come back on in the 2nd half for a stint in the middle. I think he had some injury concerns too last year. All up, it f**ked his game. Different roles and not 100%.

Cordner will be there. Play him on the left, Frizell on the right. Be done with it. Make it simple. There won't be a spot for Graham personally. Head case anyway....his indiscretions last series practically turned the series into QLD's favour. A mistake fair enough, but he gave several penalties that put the pressure on NSW. That's unforgivable.

RF - Frizell
LF - Cordner
MF - J Trbojevic
PF - Klemmer
PF - Vaughn
AH - ???


IC - Campbell Gillard
IC - insert another Prop [here]
IC - DeBelin
IC - insert a 2nd acting half or utility [here]

Peachy or Bird can cover several positions so both good candidates for #17. I really have no reason to drop Bird at this stage though, given how good he has been for NSW in his short Origin career so far, and we still have 5 or so weeks for him to get into the groove before selection. The talk however is that Fittler & Buderus & co are looking at a specialist acting half on interchange.

 

[big hit!]

I think it's close too. Jake's ballplaying is obviously superior, but the domination that JDB brings to the middle of the field is such a huge advantage that i think we'd be better off going with him.

Probably a null point at this stage though. Only injury will stop Jurbo's name being read out at #13 in origin 1.

they can both be selected. one starts, the other in the rotation in the 15 mins either side of half time. It just depends on how Fittler intends on tactically using them. Does he start Debelin for some muscle at the start and bring on Trbojevic later in half where he was so effective up against Glasby, Papalli & Hess last series? Klemmer likewise was effective in the interchange role against that QLD rotation.

 

[betcats]

So f**king glad fittler is their and not Daley with his "be like qld".

Don't pick woods, cordner and if teddy doesn't start playing better don't pick him either. He bombed another try on the weekend by not passing the ball, he keeps doing that.

 

[SBD82]

they can both be selected. one starts, the other in the rotation in the 15 mins either side of half time. It just depends on how Fittler intends on tactically using them. Does he start Debelin for some muscle at the start and bring on Trbojevic later in half where he was so effective up against Glasby, Papalli & Hess last series? Klemmer likewise was effective in the interchange role against that QLD rotation.

That's a very fair point. I was thinking that playing both would detract from one of their strengths, which is to play long minutes. But with the speed of origin, even if they were both reduced to 50 minutes each, they could maintain their effort plays.

 

[typicalfan]

Start with Jake as he has been there before let JDB come on fresh and smash blokes. McInness and Cook you’d think are the 9 and 14.

 

[TheFrog]

ch 7 report last night from Massoud suggesting there is going to be a massive clean out.

he mentioned the only certainties are Cordner, the Trbojevic bros, and Maloney.

Another journo (Andrew Webster) will tell you the four certainties are Cordner, Maloney, Frizell and Campbell-Gillard.

From that you can probably infer that Maloney and Cordner are certainties, and that's it. I'd say Jake T is pretty close to it, Tom not so much. It doesn't help them playing at a club that appears to be imploding fast.