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NZ to decide Tri-Nations fate

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Fox Sports said:
The immediate future of the Tri Nations rugby league tournament is in the hands of New Zealand.

Australian Rugby League chief executive Geoff Carr today revealed he forwarded an email to NZRL chairman Selwyn Pearson this week seeking his support for a revised tournament format.

The ARL, and the players, want the opening two games of this year's tournament to be shared between New Zealand and Australia, with the remaining matches to be played in England.

Great Britain has supported the new format but New Zealand will have the final say.

If the NZRL rejects the changes, the 2005 tournament will be scrapped.

"If they want to support the proposal it will go ahead," Carr said.

"If they don't we will have a year off. We have had a proposal from our players with what they want to do. We're saying we will back the players.

"We won't do it any other way.

"Our players have had a long year and we won't be pressing them to go. We will support them all the way."

The Tri-Nations was hailed as the rebirth of the international game after playing to packed houses in England, culminating in a crowd of 40,000 for the final at Elland Road in Leeds.

But the tournament – which included a six week stint in England – also raised concerns over the length of the season and the toll on the game's elite player.

The ARL held discussions with its leading players as well as Rugby League Professionals Association president Tony Butterfield before a compromise was reached.

By playing the matches between New Zealand and Australia in the southern hemisphere, officials can shave one week off the overseas leg of the tour.

"It's acceptable to Great Britain at the moment," Carr said.

"It's up to New Zealand. It's in their hands. If it doesn't come good we'll have a year off."

Whatever happens this year, the tournament is certain to be played in 2006 and its future should be secured beyond that, with the NRL likely to approve a 16th premiership team – the Gold Coast – in February.

AAP
 

yakstorm

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NZ should vote for it, they need a test in NZ every year as part of their annual plan, and the Tri-Nations guarentees that, if they vote against, well there is always the chance the ARL will go to Britain for a quick Ashes tour, and bypass NZ.

The only down side for the Kiwis is that they can't call upon all their Super League players for the matches under the new proposal, but that said, its not all of them like past articles have mentioned, only those in the remaining 4 of Super League.
 

playdaball

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It sucks that NZ is not able to call on ALL players!!!! NZ never play Australia withn a full compliment of players.

Can they change the ESL season?
 

carlnz

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Those top four teams in the Super League have the most Kiwis in it!! It is unfair for the Kiwis...but they will go ahead and say yes.....because they did at North harbour....

If it does happen...what about the France tour??
 

yakstorm

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Until the Super League season changes though, there is little that can be done. Of course we would love to see NZ play every match with a full strength squad, but it looks like 2007 is the first we will see of the NRL and SL shortening their seasons.

Still I think in the long run it might make NZ stronger. A lot of young kids have been exposed in the Black and White the past few years. They are only going to improve, meaning NZ's player base is not potentially larger, which only helps the National side.

But look, I think we all agree, its better to have the tournament than not right?
 

The Observer

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The wording sounded very strong as if someone was aiming for the year off, which would allwo the blame to fall on the NZRL if that happened. Was that really necessary?

Also, after all the tears, complaining about burnout, threats about cutting the comp entirely, we have ONE change - bringing the Aus-NZ game home. It seems like only the three games (Aus/USA, ANZAC game, Aus Invitation/PNG) have disappeared.

The game that really was surplus to requirements is the Tri Nations final - we don't need one. It contributes to burn out, it allows Aus to thump the genuine title contender and but does not improve the tournament. The 6 game round robin format can choose a worthy winner.
 

winnyason

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let's hope france is being put in fix in 2007, a tv deal in france i gather is what the rlif is after, being commiting them.
does anyone know who france will be playing this year other than the med cup and euro cup
 

rugged

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In the Sunday Mail (Brisbane) this morning they are now saying that GB said it was all settled but it isn't, they haven't come to an agreement yet.
 

Ari Gold

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winnyason said:
let's hope france is being put in fix in 2007, a tv deal in france i gather is what the rlif is after, being commiting them.
does anyone know who france will be playing this year other than the med cup and euro cup

Italy are supposed to play France in September in Sydney
 

Art Vanderlay

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Great news if the Tri Nations happen again this year, but I agree with others posts at the comments from Mr Carr.
For once it would be nice to hear a Australian officials be proactive rather than the negative comments that usually come out regarding anything to do with the international game!

As for the the article from www.stuff.co.nz below..... I don’t always agree with Mr. Pearson's but I think he has a fair point! Don’t you?????
For the game to survive in NZ we need a revenue flow and having one test a year just isn’t good enough!!!!

But I guess Australia needs all the high profile games, as to keep there players up to the world beating standard they have enjoyed over the last 25 years!! which is so good for our game. (not)

***from www.stuff.co.nz******
New Zealand could host both its tri-series tests against Asutralia next year if an audacious bid by New Zealand Rugby League chairman Selwyn Pearson is successful.


Australia and Great Britain decided this week to continue their involvement in the competition, whose future now rests in New Zealand's hands.

Pearson is attempting to use New Zealand's future involvement as a bargaining chip to lure both Kiwis/Australia tests to New Zealand. He is due to speak to Australian Rugby League chairman Geoff Carr tomorrow, when a deal is expected to be thrashed out.

"We want both tests here. Australia have plenty of big league - city versus country matches and three State of Origin games each year. We want something for league fans in this country," Pearson said.

"That's why I'll be telling (Carr) that we support the tournament, but we will be sitting on our decision until we can get some sort of agreement on the format and where games will be played."

Pearson's hardline stance is partly due to previous decisions made by the ARL around international league, such as refusing to release players for a proposed North-South fixture featuring New Zealand's top internationals this year.

The game coincides with the State of Origin series when NRL clubs release their best players.

"I don't think that is fair," Pearson said.

"It's a double standard. Some clubs like West Tigers are very supportive when we ask for players to be released, some, like Penrith and the Bulldogs, are not. I'm keen to be part of the tri-series again, but it has to be on our own terms and if we can use our vote as a bargaining chip to help make games like a North-South match become a reality, then so be it."

The tri-series, which Australia won, yielded a $2 million profit.

About 40,000 fans watched the final at Elland Road in Leeds.

Great Britain has already pledged its support for another series and will administer the 2005 version if all parties can agree on a format.

Concerns for player welfare, because of the elongated season, meant Australia demanded both its tests against New Zealand be played either at home or here to reduce its travel burden.

Carr told the Sydney Morning Herald Australia's demands had been met and, when New Zealand ratified its participation, planning for a repeat series in Great Britain in November could begin. However, Pearson's stance throws a spanner in the works and it's not known if Australia will play ball.

P.S Australia already have the ANZAC test, to be played in Brisbane this year.
 

The Observer

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Copa said:
such as refusing to release players for a proposed North-South fixture featuring New Zealand's top internationals this year.

eh!?

It doesn't come as a surprise. :|

Here's some other great points from Pearson:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3158049a1823,00.html

"They wouldn't endorse our North-South game for 2005 so I made the point they have the Anzac test, a City-Country game, and three State of Origins," said Pearson yesterday.

Here Australian officials present THE most lame excuse for not wanting to play a test after the NRL GF!

Pearson was waiting for a reply to an email he sent to ARL chief executive Geoff Carr last Friday. He has already conceded a date change after the ARL balked at the thought of playing the first Tri-Nations match on October 8, six days after the National Rugby League grand final.

"They say the clubs are all having their prize-givings during the week after the grand final, so the tests will be on the 8th and 15th," said Pearson.

Pearson must mean the 16th and 23rd. The Aus officials make the NRL clubs sound like Under 9's soccer teams holding their trophy nights :shock: It would have been more honest to say that the Aus players were on Mad Monday drinks.

Still, if the ARL doesn't want to stage a test on the 8th, the NZRL should petition the clubs to release NZ players for a North South game on that weekend, giving NZ the perfect trial for places in the Kiwi Tri Nations squad. NRL clubs should have no excuse on that weekend.
 

thommo4pm

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I can't see why NZ can not have the 2 tests this year in the Tri-Nations provided we get the next 2 when the Tri-Series is next held in the Northern Hemisphere(after this years series).
Whoever gets the ANZAC day test the other country should get the 2 tests from the Tri Series.

Regardless of this Australia needs to play more tests at home.
Why not invite France over for a couple of tests during the season, even if it was an Australia A team to play France.

We need to get the profile of International League back to where it belongs here in Australia, because we only play 1 or 2 Tests here a year the public do not get to see the games live and this affects the standing of International Rugby League in the eye of the media and general public.

If the media saw that International games in Oz were attracting 30,000 or 40,000 per match each year they would back off with the baggings that they give International League, and this would also help to shut up the Rugby Union fools.
 

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