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Old thread: $650K 3 year deal for Bailey

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Daily Telegraph reports:

CRONULLA are poised to offer Test star Phil Bailey a $650,000 three-year deal to stay a Shark.

But Manly have emerged as another club interested in luring Bailey away from the Shire as negotiations intensify for the Australian centre.

Sharks general manager Steve Rogers last night indicated he was confident of retaining Bailey despite news Manly had expressed interest this week.

"Phil's keen to stay if we can come to an agreement so hopefully we can sort something out soon," Rogers said.

"I know Phil's pretty happy here. He's established himself well and gone on to represent at state and Test level from Cronulla."

While Bailey was upset with the way Chris Anderson was sacked by the Sharks board, he yesterday gave the strongest indication yet he would stay at Cronulla.

But he has not ruled out a return to the northern peninsula to link with Manly, the club where he spent the first seven years of his career.

"I'm really happy at Cronulla and I think we're a good side that can really give things a shake next season," Bailey said. "We've bought well and there's a good mix of young blokes who got a taste of first grade last year and some older heads.

"But I'll still definitely listen to what everyone has to say. I don't want to burn any bridges as far as other options are concerned.

"Manly look like they are going to be a really good club now that they're back on their feet.

"It would probably be easier because I started my footy at Manly so I know a lot of the administration staff and players there."

Manly football manager Peter Peters met with Bailey's manager George Mimis on Tuesday, when the Eagles expressed their interest in Bailey.

St George Illawarra are also interested in the Test centre pending the outcome of negotiations with the Sharks over the next fortnight.

Cronulla general manager Rogers was in the midst of negotiating an upgraded contract for Bailey before the departure of coach Chris Anderson.

All talks were then put on hold but are due to begin again today.

"It's a bit like the June 30 deadline has come early for me so I'd be silly not to listen to everyone," Bailey said.

Bailey's current deal with the Sharks is until the end of the 2004 but Cronulla plan to offer him a further two-year extension.

Bailey had foot surgery earlier in the week and was released from hospital yesterday. He had a screw inserted in his foot and will be on crutches for the next fortnight.

 THE NRL has ruled out salary cap changes for next season – but not for 2005. The NRL plans to monitor the impact of the poker machine tax on clubs before considering a small increase in the cap in 2005.

The issue was raised at the NRL's annual conference in Coogee yesterday, attended by all 15 club chief executives.

"We've certainly talked about it but there won't be changes to the cap for 2004," Gallop said.

"We are still looking at 2005 but there is a concern we need to be in a position for the clubs to be able to afford an increase.

"And there's a bit of nervousness about that at the moment.

"It wouldn't be a huge increase if there was to be an increase. It's difficult at the moment because there is some uncertainty about just how big an impact the poker machine tax will have."
 
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In my opinion Bailey is good but not outstanding. I wouldnt think he'd be worth more than $110,000 a year - and even that is over the top.

$650,000 for 3 years is obscene. Couldnt we buy a better player (or two) with that sort of dough?

Oh well at least it shows we've got money to burn I guess.

I reckon if he wants to hold the club to ransom for that much more drinking money, we should get rid of him. And leave it til the last minute before the NRL season so the lousy ingrate gets paid peanuts at his next destination.
 

cheese

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cocky prick said:
"Manly look like they are going to be a really good club now that they're back on their feet.

"It would probably be easier because I started my footy at Manly so I know a lot of the administration staff and players there."

wtf ....

Mimis has turned him into a money hungry grub.

with all his "any club would be a better option than cronulla" talk, i reckon he can get fugged.

Its a privilege to live in the shire. If he isnt 100% keen to play for the sharks, i'd rather the club kept the 200+k a season for re-signing blokes like hilder, aitken, and galloway. I hope the scum sucker ends up living in cambeltown playing for wests.
 
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cheese said:
Its a privilege to live in the shire. I hope the scum sucker ends up living in cambeltown playing for wests.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

I totally agree, it is a privilege to live in the Shire which is why all the goons from the Dragons and Bulldogs live here too.

Campbelltown is like a different world, I've been there a few times (a few too many times). They actually have stickers in the bathroom at Campbelltown Stadium reminding the savages out that way to wear condoms. And judging by how heinously ugly the Tigers fans were, I wholeheartedly support their stance.

But back to Bailey. We should get rid of him. Now.
 

cheese

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ShireShark said:
And judging by how heinously ugly the Tigers fans were, I wholeheartedly support their stance.
:lol:

Another thing on baily, the has been that never was. Those figures are pretty stock standard for an international player, but cmon, if there wasnt 50,000 injuries, and if unkie opes wasnt steering the ship, bailey would still be nothing more than a solid 1st grader. For him to ask for an "aus" upgrade is a bit rich imo, considering he wouldnt have even been the ballboy in that side if all players were fit.

You are the weakest link phil bailey, good bye!
 

maxpower3000

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GEEEEEZZ!!! You guys never give up, the bloke was our top try scorer last season and was one of the our best performers next to Hilder and Nutley, he was played out of his regular position and did better than any of our other backs who couldn't defend or put the ball over the line,

Give it a rest and start showing some support, I really can't believe what I read sometimes, First you wanted to get rid of Ando and kimmorley now you want to get rid of bailey and what I really can't believe is that you want to get blokes back like Dean Triester.

Come on!!! Treister is Shite, however Bailey will just get better and be a great player so give him the 650k plus whatever else he wants to keep him in the shire, Because we need him.
 

incredible_holc

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yeh but when Bailey is wanting $215000+ its a joke!!!!!!! he is not worth that much and espescially with the attitude he has been showing.
I McKenna wasnt worth it Bailey sure as hell isnt\\!!!!!!
 

shadowboxer

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spot on holc. You know when a player leaves you have that ping of "yeah we will miss him" similar to the mass exodus over the last few years. If bailey goes i wont be crying in my beer. I would love to see him stay but if he love the place sooooo much why wouldnt you stay. If he wants let him go to manly, it will be funny to watch him as the eagles get bashed around the park next year.
 

Foz

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If I was Phil I'd take the deal. I think he has enormous potential as a back-rower and can represent from there. I think he got a start in the centres for Australia because of some Steve Bradbury type luck (everyone else fell over) so lets hope he can rediscover himself as a back-rower. His versatility should ensure he gets the bench spot in S.o.o. again unless his form goes right off.
 

Nuffs

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i think a big part is that he is still only 24

we haven't had many young rep players recently and i dont think the club would want to let him slip

matty johns has a massive wrap on him and maybe the club think he could be a regular rep player in the next few years

i'm still not sure about him. good player with plenty of potential but he has to realise that potential before we throw even more money at him
 

dannyboy

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He's young & developing
He's versatile (forward or backline)
He scores tries (precious few other Sharks did in 2003)
He's now got a State & Austrlian rep credential (deserved or not) which always adds $$$
He's not in the same class as a Tweddle or a Wessel ;-)

It's about stability lads. Trying to keep the nucleus of the team intact after the uncertainty surounding the last two months.
 

Macca

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Well, I have kept fairly quiet on this issue so far. I was waiting to see what we offered him.

$215 thou a year seems about right.

His attitude towards the Sharks is just a ploy to get more money, and I don't blame him. You have to look after yourself and the Sharks have the room under the cap, why shouldn't he ask for more.

He was definatley one of our top 3 players last year and now he wants to cash in. I hope we retain him, his rep experiences this year will have a great bearing on his future and I think he will turn into one of our best utilities ever. He creates so many options in the modern game. With 4 forwards on the bench he can replace someone in the backline if they are injured.

Gotta keep him.
 

Macca

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Tamazoid said:
That's way to overpriced. If he doesn't take the deal, he can p!ss off.

How is it over priced?

He is one of our top 5 players easy, probably top 3 this year. He plays for NSW and Australia. $215 thou is alot less than some of our other players and they don't play rep footy.
 

SirShire

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Shiiit!

He has gone from struggling to get a position on a squad to being payed over $500 000 in a matter of years.

Me thinks he shoud be on $300 000 for 3 years.
 

dannyboy

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Well der. If he doesn't take the deal he probably will piss off.

A first grade footballer's career is too short to play for peanuts...there's plenty of time to do that in the "twilight" years. Get the best deal you can Bails.

He's been with the Sharks for what, one season, and you want instant loyalty as if he was born under the ET stand. The person who enticed him to the Sharks & championed his way into rep jerseys was kneecapped & tossed out & yet you still want constant loyalty. It's gotta cut both ways.
 
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maxpower3000 said:
GEEEEEZZ!!! You guys never give up, the bloke was our top try scorer last season and was one of the our best performers next to Hilder and Nutley, he was played out of his regular position and did better than any of our other backs who couldn't defend or put the ball over the line,

Give it a rest and start showing some support, I really can't believe what I read sometimes, First you wanted to get rid of Ando and kimmorley now you want to get rid of bailey and what I really can't believe is that you want to get blokes back like Dean Triester.

Come on!!! Treister is Shite, however Bailey will just get better and be a great player so give him the 650k plus whatever else he wants to keep him in the shire, Because we need him.

I was with you there until the last bit. Treister is in no way "Shite". I've never seen him as a star but he was, and still is, a very solid player. Not to say I want to see him back - whatever the circumstances of his departure and however much he loves the club, he is too old now to be bringing back.

But Bails is a rep player and is entitled to be asking for that kind of money. And while his Kangaroos selection may have been Bradbury-esque, it was Gould (not a fan of us or of Opes) who gave him his first rep jumper. Without him last year we would have given Souths a run for their money. And all that as a centre - I think we all agree he will be much better once he gets back to the second row.
 
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Just a side point Dean, Gould didnt choose Bailey - though to his credit he did say that when he heard about the selection he "warmed to it" instantly.
 

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