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Olympic Sevens?

rugged

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Posted on Fri, Feb. 04, 2005





Perfect Olympic sport: rugby

By Ann Killion

Mercury News


The Olympics have become really good at goofy and arcane. At artistic and twirly. At esoteric and off-beat.

What the Olympics aren't so good at is smash-mouth and rugged.

But there's a chance that might change.

When the head honchos of the International Olympic Committee turn on their televisions this weekend, they might notice that a rough sport will draw a worldwide audience. They might notice that spectators like contact sports.

No one is suggesting that American football be included in the Olympics. What many are suggesting -- and have suggested for the past 80 years -- is that rugby returns to the Olympics. Somewhere amid the glitter and ribbons there must be room for rucking and mauling, right?

This may be the year.

Next weekend, Feb. 12-13, at the Home Depot Center in Carson, the USA Sevens Tournament will be held, with an impressive international field that includes world champion New Zealand. The tournament is expected to draw more than 20,000 fans. But the most important spectators will be the 10 or so IOC members scheduled to attend.

The argument for rugby

At IOC meetings this summer in Singapore, the committee will consider whether a new sport -- rugby, golf, karate, squash and roller sports are on the list -- will be added for 2012.

This seems like a no-brainer. Couldn't the Olympics use a sport with a long, storied tradition? Some full-body contact? Something that's the antithesis of rhythmic trampoline leaping or underwater pentathlon?

I think so, and anyone who has followed the vibrant rugby community in the Bay Area -- where Cal has won 20 national championships, and where several clubs thrive -- would agree. Let's hope IOC President Jacques Rogge, a former Belgian rugby player, does, too.

It's not just that the Olympics could use a few more bone-jarring tackles. Rugby is everywhere on the planet, played by more nations than any sport but soccer. The matches are festive and diverse. It already feels Olympian.

Rugby also meets the IOC's criteria. It's easy to stage. It doesn't add too many additional athletes. It is even gender-friendly -- women's rugby is growing quickly. Golf, a sport that doesn't need another high-profile international stage, is a difficult facility to add. Roller sports, a summer nod to the X Games, is more pandering to the off-beat. Squash?

The Olympics has its share of dull racket sports.

``Some of the sports in the Games address a small niche of athletes, that require considerable expense to stage,'' said Doug Arnot, CEO of USA Rugby and a veteran Olympic organizer. ``Rugby is much more cost-effective and is a fantastic game for spectators.''

Ready to return

The version of rugby under consideration is sevens -- a fast-paced, high-scoring, shortened version of the game played with seven players per side, rather than the standard 15.

The last time rugby was in the Olympics was in 1924 in Paris. The final, played before a crowd of 40,000, matched the United States, the defending gold medalist, against France, the overwhelming favorite. The U.S. team -- which featured several players from Cal and Stanford -- won 17-3.

Arnot said he expects the IOC, already concerned about the unwieldy size of the Summer Olympics, to add a new sport only if it eliminates or scales back another.

I can think of several goofy, glittery, twirly, boring candidates. Surely there must be room for rugby.


http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/columnists/10810719.htm?1c
 

JTR

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Well if nothing else, it would make our gold medal talley a bit better! :D
 

rugged

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Johnny the Red said:
Well if nothing else, it would make our gold medal talley a bit better! :D

I don't know. Sevens seems to be a game where any country can win (well, within reason). Might be different if the big countries took it seriously and put their best players forwards.
 

rugged

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Real rugby used to be an Olympic event but they are more likely to put sevens in than full rugby if it's reinstated.
 

eastsrule

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It has to be done. It is a fantastic spectator sport and as proven, teams from any country can be competititve.
 

Copa

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If it makes the olympics... will the UK send a team?... they don't in soccer 'cause the variuos bodies (england, scotland etc) can't come to an agreement that keeps 'em all happy.
 

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ozbash said:
didnt it used to be an olympic event or was that the commenwealth games ?
Commonwealth games.
The 7's first featured two games ago in Kuala Lumpur.
Naturally we cleaned the opposition up and did the same as defending champs in Manchester! :D
 

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Copa said:
If it makes the olympics... will the UK send a team?... they don't in soccer 'cause the variuos bodies (england, scotland etc) can't come to an agreement that keeps 'em all happy.
England, Ireland & Scotland all have their own national teams in the IRB 7's comp so I would assume they'd do the same if they were to play at the Olympics.
Not sure whether Wales have a team or not... ?
 

Copa

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Johnny the Red said:
Copa said:
If it makes the olympics... will the UK send a team?... they don't in soccer 'cause the variuos bodies (england, scotland etc) can't come to an agreement that keeps 'em all happy.
England, Ireland & Scotland all have their own national teams in the IRB 7's comp so I would assume they'd do the same if they were to play at the Olympics.
Not sure whether Wales have a team or not... ?

England, Wales and Scotland are not recognised by the Olympics.....The Olympics only recognise the "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" not the separate home nations.

They will all have to agree, if that is possible, on what team is sent. This is why they don't have a soccer team at the olympics... they can't agree.
 

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Scotland, England and Wales can all get together for Lions tours there no reason they cant do that for sevens if in the olympics
 

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Rugby hopeful of Olympics return
From correspondents in Los Angeles
February 12, 2005

INTERNATIONAL Rugby Board chief Mike Miller insisted today that he was confident rugby sevens would be played at the 2012 Olympic Games.

Miller, speaking as the latest round of the world sevens series was about to get under way in Los Angeles, pointed to the fact that rugby, in its full 15s version, was an Olympic sport until 1924.

"Rugby was in the Olympics until 1924 and we think we're a pretty good fit with the Olympics; we share a lot of the characteristics and the ethos of the Olympic movement," he said.

"Rugby is a very open, warm and generous sport where the players will spend 80 minutes fighting hard and tackling hard on the pitch but when they go off, they'll have a drink together and they'll be friends and they'll make friendships for life.

"We have the Olympics spirit. A lot of people like rugby around the world, the major corporations also like to sponsor rugby, the major television networks also like to show rugby and audiences tend to be up market as well, so we could help the Olympics to stay healthy and strong."

A decision on whether or not rugby will be readmitted to the Games will be taken in July when the International Olympic Committee meets in Singapore to decide the venue for the 2012 Games, with rugby strongholds Paris and London among the favourites to be named hosts.

"Sevens works very well in a multisport event context - it works well in the Asian Games and in the Commonwealth Games," said Miller.

"If you were playing the 15-a-side game, you would have to have longer periods of rest between matches. The rugby World Cup goes on for seven weeks for example.

"Sevens can take place over two days and it also plays better with the smaller nations who can compete on almost an equal footing with the bigger nations, so you'll have more chances of upsets.

"What we have to do is to convince the IOC members that it would be beneficial for the Olympics for rugby to be back in the fold. The fact that it may be in Paris or London may be a little bit of help but the main thing is it's for good, not only for 2012."



Sounds like the decision will be very soon.
 
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It would be great for the sport because all the countries will pour in millions of dollars to help rugby because its a Olympic sport .
I think it would be a fist Gold medal for the Pacific nations in a Olympic if its given the go ahead .
 

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rugged said:
He obviously meant millions of dollars around the world.

Ok fair point however France,England,Australia,Sth Africa and NZ and Japan would have the money to splurge. Whilst the others will no doubt field teams,they dont have the money/millions to throw around.
Would they spend millions if the best stars were not available due to S14/6nations/tests ?
 
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