One more chance pleads Walker

[Iafeta]

Wake up ans smell the oxygen wowsers...nearly everyone is on something or other.Legal or otherwise.Id like to know how punters felt if they started drug testing at their work,Ill tell ya one thing,their wouldnt be too many people left to work.

Testing footballers for recreational drugs ia an outrage,firing them and publicly humiliating them is even worse.....its a disgrace to treat a human being in need like that.

A bit of compassion woudlnt go astray.

Cheers.

Again. Utter rubbish.

There's also an international drugs tribunal that could have pulled Andrew Walker up. Its an instant 2 year ban from them. Sports people are paid big bucks to be role models for young people, he brought the game and his club into disrepute and set a very poor example for those who showed have been able to view him, on the money he was on, in the priveledged position he was in, as a community role model.

The players all have protocols to follow from the NRL and their clubs which are well and truly spelt out. If he went out and broke those protocols, his own problem. He got punished accordingly.

What he did was a criminal act. Its not only punishable under the procotols of the NRL, the anti-doping agencies and his club, but its also punishable by law. A general person in the community could also face dismissal from their company - in most company policies being caught with drugs will lead to termination of employment. To think its just because he is an NRL player is ludicrous - truckies are medically tested for medical issues and drugs, so are several other sectors of the work force.

Why should I be compassionate with someone who abused a priveledge position, broke the laws we all have to try and obide by, and now wants a fair go elsewhere even though he's let THAT side down before as well?

 

[innsaneink]

Wow,the compassion is abounding here.


The irony of this situation is......you can rob,steal,rape,murder and still play rugby league.You snort some coke,which is a victimless crime and you cannot play.

Surely you can see something wrong with this.

Victimless crime?

Yeah right......Only Walker had anything to do with the coke he used, yet even hes a victim.
Its not like he bought it at the corner store, its come a long way and the misery thats in its wake is very very real, from the fatherless kids whos policemen dads had to deal with the colombian druglords, to the guy down the road who lost his DVD palyer after some junkie B&E'ed his joint.

You can PM me it if you like, Im curious as to who the murderer is playing league

Wake up ans smell the oxygen wowsers...nearly everyone is on something or other.Legal or otherwise.Id like to know how punters felt if they started drug testing at their work,Ill tell ya one thing,their wouldnt be too many people left to work.

Testing footballers for recreational drugs ia an outrage,firing them and publicly humiliating them is even worse.....its a disgrace to treat a human being in need like that.

Andrew Walker knew he was in the public eye....all 'celebs' know these days they put a foot outta line the media will be all over it

A bit of compassion woudlnt go astray.

Cheers.

No, NOT everyone is on something or other, most people manage to get through life without using anything legal or illegal, its just when youre a drinker, most of your associates are drinkers, drug scene....likewise...its insular.

Im just an ordinary everyday parent that happened to work on the railways in my last job.....they test for drugs and alcohol there, like they do in many occupational fields these days...why? because employers know its a problem and drug or alcohol affected employees are NOT efficient employees.

I am compassionate to those that have drug and alcohol problems when they decide to get off their arse & do something about those problems, not when they realise what a bitch it is to get busted.

 

[simon says]

The difference being that Walker did not take coke and go to work......he did it in his own time and affected no one but himself.

The punishment far outweighs the crime.....

PS.......most crimes occur under the influence of alcohol.......

 

[innsaneink]

But it hasnt affected only him....its affected his family, his team mates, his fans.

A victimless crime? I think not.

The severity of the penalty is your opinion...Walker knew the penalties, he gambled and lost.

 

[nqboy]

My compassion is reserved for those worthy of it.

 

[Foz]

Wow,the compassion is abounding here.


The irony of this situation is......you can rob,steal,rape,murder and still play rugby league.You snort some coke,which is a victimless crime and you cannot play.

Surely you can see something wrong with this.

Cheers.

Rubbish. Utter rubbish. Just ask Jason Williams from the Sharks or Shaun Metcalfe from the Warriors Development Squad. Both were axed by their clubs after being found guilty of serious offences.

Andrew Walker can play, in 2 years. Once he does his time.

What can't you see is so RIGHT with this?

Funny thing with Jason Williams. Cronulla sacked him.
ALL charges against him were dropped.
Surely he should be given another chance. (with someone be it Cronulla or elsewhere. He is a real good prospect.)

 

[CC_Eagle]

Wow,the compassion is abounding here.


The irony of this situation is......you can rob,steal,rape,murder and still play rugby league.You snort some coke,which is a victimless crime and you cannot play.

Surely you can see something wrong with this.

Cheers.

Great point there Simon.....

I doubt Walks will be allowed into RU again. They gave the boot to Matt Burke so I doubt a 33 year old Walker would be signed into the Super 14 comp.

 

[Generalissimo Stalin]

he should be only fined for cocaine and not banned - different if performance inhancing drugs as they should be banned or if repeat offenders eliminated from sport - they again have gone overboard.

the punishment should be community service when not training or playing.

nothing to be achieved out of banning him at all.

 

[nqboy]

It sends a message, drugs, whether performance enhancing or not, are not welcome in our game.

 

[Generalissimo Stalin]

But it hasnt affected only him....its affected his family, his team mates, his fans.

A victimless crime? I think not.

The severity of the penalty is your opinion...Walker knew the penalties, he gambled and lost.

a person could be charged several times with dui and not receive a 2 year ban from driving or embezzle money from their employer and not serve a custodial sentence at all.

2 years for testing positive to cocaine is way overboard.

he should have been fined as well as perform community service in such areas as redfern.

 

[Mr Angry]

Yeah, well that's what you get for taking drugs. Put up with it.

Correction that is what you get for taking what someone once termed an illict drug.
Alcohol - a legal drug is widely accepted, in some cases encouraged.

But it hasnt affected only him....its affected his family, his team mates, his fans.

A victimless crime? I think not.

But he could gamble his life away a manly leagues without punishment all whilst affecting the same people.
_____

Does anyone think for themselves anymore?
Sir yes Sir.

 

[Misty Bee]

Wake up - Walker was not EMPLOYED - he was contracted. Tgherefore, he is bound by whatever he agreed to in the conttract when he signed. And I'm danm sure there is somethnig in there about taking illegal drugs.

Simon has basically admitted that he is in a drug culture, by his observation that almost everyone takes drugs.

If Walker is in a vocation that is highly paid, and very public, requires him to be among the fittest people in Australian sport, and plays or a club that will spend AT LEAST a 6 figure sum annually to ensure he performs at his peak, and is found to have an illegal drug in his system during a season, then he is irresponsible. He is making himself less fit and risking the profile of the club and his sport (who provide him with a six figure sum anually). Both are reckless and irresponsible.

If I found an employee working under the influence of an illegal drug, it would be a life ban. Walker can be thankful that he'sonly gone for 2 years.

 

[Mr Angry]

It sends a message, drugs, whether performance enhancing or not, are not welcome in our game.

Except of course alcohol, perhaps you are unaware alcohol is a drug.

 

[Mr Angry]

Simon has basically admitted that he is in a drug culture

Yes he lives in Australia.

 

[Mr Angry]

If I found an employee working under the influence of an illegal drug, it would be a life ban.

A ban you would be unable to enforce. Luckly sheep don't run everything and companies aren't being sued left right and centre.

 

[Mr Angry]

among the fittest people in Australian sport

Obviously you never saw Wally having a puff in his Green and Gold.


If he trains and plays as required by the coach and is not using enchancments where is the problem?

oooohhhh that is right, we are fascists who MUST control every aspect of our players lives.

Robots is what you people are after.

 

[Misty Bee]

If I found an employee working under the influence of an illegal drug, it would be a life ban.

A ban you would be unable to enforce. Luckly sheep don't run everything and companies aren't being sued left right and centre.

And how would anyone force me to do otherwise????

and WTF has that got to do with sheep? Or are you one of our NZ based posters??? :roll:

 

[Misty Bee]

among the fittest people in Australian sport

Obviously you never saw Wally having a puff in his Green and Gold.


If he trains and plays as required by the coach and is not using enchancments where is the problem?

oooohhhh that is right, we are fascists who MUST control every aspect of our players lives.

Robots is what you people are after.

So you are saying that Des Hasler requires him to have cocaine in his system? Okay............maybe in your world......... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Lets agree to disagree. I thnik a player on cocaine at the time of training/playing is comitting a gross act of negligence to his club, his game and it's fans. You think it's totally OK. The world is cool, OK?

By any chance do you follow Nimbin in Group 1???????

 

[simon says]

I think the point you are missing is....millions of people that work go out and partake of drugs.....illegal and legal every weekend.And dont get sacked for it.

If they arent having them during work,and they arent affecting their work performance,whose buiness what they do to have FUN in their own time.

Walker has been crucified.......Im sure he wont be the last.Which is a shame.Cos he needs help....not ignorance.

Cheers.

 

[Mr Angry]

If I found an employee working under the influence of an illegal drug, it would be a life ban.

A ban you would be unable to enforce. Luckly sheep don't run everything and companies aren't being sued left right and centre.

And how would anyone force me to do otherwise????

It is known as the law.

and WTF has that got to do with sheep? Or are you one of our NZ based posters??? :roll:

I am not a kiwi