One Ref

[Fufu Andronez]

It's a really good change. The concept really falls down though when the one ref is a shit ref. Eg Klein

 

[Penrose_11]

I feel the Roosters went out to really push the boundaries in holding on in tackle. Couple times lying there looking at ref and Klein just yelled out “to slow” or similar. All credit i guess to Roosters as the good teams push as far as they can and are limits only by the whistle.

 

[Perth Red]

Be interesting to know if there’s much difference between the number of six again calls and avg number of penalties blown previously for holding down?
One thing is clear that with no opportunity to set defence and have a breather the six again calls are punishing teams more than a penalty. All three games so far have followed similar scoring pattern and ended up blow outs. Be interesting to see if this is coincidence or an effect of the rule changes?

 

[big hit!]

Perenara missed a blatant legs hit
on Jake Clifford last night in the first set of the game when he went to kick on the last.

There is too much going on for mine (especially now with the 6 again rule) for one person to accurately adjudicate on our game. Quick restarts from balls rolling dead in goal are going to be hard now because the ref is up monitoring the ball.

This is why touchies need to stop being just sideline and goal kick flag waivers, and get involved in the officiating. you see them, get in position running around the joint looking important, but in the end do f**k all.

a change to their title is probably appropriate too - assistant referee.

 

[big hit!]

Umbrella defense is back

No one is watching the 10m

It is also not stopping the wrestle. Good wrestling teams will still wrestle. And if they want to slow down the game on the 20m zone will just give away a proper penalty

this is where the flag waiver needs to be assertive. help out the field ref and call out, raise the flag for offside defenders

 

[big hit!]

Be interesting to know if there’s much difference between the number of six again calls and avg number of penalties blown previously for holding down?
One thing is clear that with no opportunity to set defence and have a breather the six again calls are punishing teams more than a penalty. All three games so far have followed similar scoring pattern and ended up blow outs. Be interesting to see if this is coincidence or an effect of the rule changes?

several variables, but the 6 again is going to be a factor.

if the trend after 4-5 rounds has the leading team overwhelmingly going on with it and games are generally blow outs, changes will have to be made.

i mentioned before. there needs to be a balance between having a game with few stoppages, but also, consider human exercise physiology. in an intermittent sport, such as rugby league, it's the high-intensity moments that win a game. if one team is so f**ked from disproportionate amount of defending that they can't recover once they get the ball to play at high-intensity in attack, then blow outs will be the norm.

Like another poster mentioned in response to another of my posts yesterday, perhaps going back to the super league restart where the try-scoring team kicks off will even out the greater disproportionate amount of defending between teams we've seen in the first 3 games.

 

[gerg]

I generally disagree, and B Anasta criticising the ref when L Mitchell dropped the ball cold was nowhere to be seen when J Friend scored, players win and lose matches not the ref. STOP CRITICISING REFEREES, THE REF IS GOD.

I don't understand what you're disagreeing with? Lattrell made mistakes and the referee did too. Manu was a few metres offside, tackled Johnson/Lattrell in goal and instead of being a penalty it's a dropout.

Storm and Roosters are by far the best defensive teams in the competition and part of it is leaving their line early or just blatantly offside and then wrestling/slowing down the ruck. Both coaches (Bellamy/Robinson) can bullshit all they like about their sophisticated defensive strategies but that is the strategy. Control the ruck, stand offside and disguise it as quick line speed and force the referee to penalise them out of the match - which they don't do because channel Nein will sook about it.

This is why we are where we are. These two sides playing like this for years - experiencing success with it - and as a result of that success, every single other side in the competition adopting the same style or tactics.

 

[AnonymousLurker]

several variables, but the 6 again is going to be a factor.

if the trend after 4-5 rounds has the leading team overwhelmingly going on with it and games are generally blow outs, changes will have to be made.

i mentioned before. there needs to be a balance between having a game with few stoppages, but also, consider human exercise physiology. in an intermittent sport, such as rugby league, it's the high-intensity moments that win a game. if one team is so f**ked from disproportionate amount of defending that they can't recover once they get the ball to play at high-intensity in attack, then blow outs will be the norm.

Like another poster mentioned in response to another of my posts yesterday, perhaps going back to the super league restart where the try-scoring team kicks off will even out the greater disproportionate amount of defending between teams we've seen in the first 3 games.

Re last paragraph , the problem with that is if a team is trying to make a late comeback in game and they score they don’t get the ball back you have them kicking off . Also since I refused on principal to watch super league back in the day , what happened after a penalty goal , who kicked off ? I would assume it would be the offending team otherwise no real penalty if they get the ball back.
I digress your solution would be the team in front has to kick off after a try is scored to give a chasing team the opportunity to win a game , and frankly I think it takes away from the game . Leave it as is

 

[AnonymousLurker]

It's a really good change. The concept really falls down though when the one ref is a shit ref. Eg Klein

yeh Klein is the worst of all refs imo , I think 2 ref system protected the useless refs and one ref system they will be found out, hopefully the shit refs get dropped to touchie duties.

the roosters ‘Souths game appeared to have more wrestle and slower play the ball then 2 previous games and didn’t feel like he used the 6 again call much . I think there was also a opportunity of the use of sin bin at one stage like the cow/tits game , as I saw a cynical offside on tryline , luckily there was a try after the enduring 6

 

[KOMORI]

this is where the flag waiver needs to be assertive. help out the field ref and call out, raise the flag for offside defenders

Get them more involved... maybe look at having the open side touchie or even both of them roaming infield a bit and acting as assistant referees: keep on top of the 10 and an eye on background play as they should be but from a better vantage point.

They don’t need to be exclusively on the white line, there’s 11ty cameras watching the game that cover that and often end up doing so when it comes to close calls anyhow...

 

[Tommy Smith]

If the Roosters-Souths game was slower it's because the opposition know they can wrestle us in the tackle at will with only a minimal risk of being penalised.

We received zero "6 to go" calls despite having the NRLs most dominant forward pack, which would logically lead to ruck dominance, and yet can't buy a 6 to go call.

The opposition know this and so lay in the ruck longer.

The above is of course mostly bullshit. But hey, it's no more bullshit than the theory that "the Roosters slow down the ruck and push the limits under Robinson" whinging.

 

[Valheru]

The true test for the 6 again rule hasn't happened yet. It doesn't really matter what the rules are when it is a blow out.

When it is 18 all with 5 minutes to go will be the test. Will they stick to 6 again when the team would clearly prefer a penalty or will they try to officiate based on the game situation and perceived intent?

 

[T-Boon]

If the Roosters-Souths game was slower it's because the opposition know they can wrestle us in the tackle at will with only a minimal risk of being penalised.

We received zero "6 to go" calls despite having the NRLs most dominant forward pack, which would logically lead to ruck dominance, and yet can't buy a 6 to go call.

The opposition know this and so lay in the ruck longer.

The above is of course mostly bullshit. But hey, it's no more bullshit than the theory that "the Roosters slow down the ruck and push the limits under Robinson" whinging.

The gripe people have with the Roosters is that they are massive salary cap cheats.

 

[franklin2323]

If the Roosters-Souths game was slower it's because the opposition know they can wrestle us in the tackle at will with only a minimal risk of being penalised.

We received zero "6 to go" calls despite having the NRLs most dominant forward pack, which would logically lead to ruck dominance, and yet can't buy a 6 to go call.

The opposition know this and so lay in the ruck longer.

The above is of course mostly bullshit. But hey, it's no more bullshit than the theory that "the Roosters slow down the ruck and push the limits under Robinson" whinging.

Bankwest is terrible in wet is why that game was a bit down

 

[unforgiven]

The true test for the 6 again rule hasn't happened yet. It doesn't really matter what the rules are when it is a blow out.

When it is 18 all with 5 minutes to go will be the test. Will they stick to 6 again when the team would clearly prefer a penalty or will they try to officiate based on the game situation and perceived intent?

It is not about what the team would prefer, you need to stop thinking about it in those terms.

 

[Valheru]

It is not about what the team would prefer, you need to stop thinking about it in those terms.

When you have two dofferent options to the ref, that's exactly what it will become about at some point.

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

The gripe people have with the Roosters is that they are massive salary cap cheats.

The Latrell contract drama was just a ruse to fool the public but you saw through it.

 

[Perth Red]

If the Roosters-Souths game was slower it's because the opposition know they can wrestle us in the tackle at will with only a minimal risk of being penalised.

We received zero "6 to go" calls despite having the NRLs most dominant forward pack, which would logically lead to ruck dominance, and yet can't buy a 6 to go call.

The opposition know this and so lay in the ruck longer.

The above is of course mostly bullshit. But hey, it's no more bullshit than the theory that "the Roosters slow down the ruck and push the limits under Robinson" whinging.

just watched it and have to say I thought there was quite a few times the ref should have called 6 again Both sides . Of the three games it was by far the slowest and more wrestling on show,

 

[unforgiven]

When you have two dofferent options to the ref, that's exactly what it will become about at some point.

It is not what its about, there are not 2 different options to the ref, they are to be used in different situations, no different to how he used to be able to penalise a team but also bin a player in a more extreme situation. This is no different to that!

 

[Perth Red]

This next game should be interesting. not two of the best sides, be interesting to see how the new rules impact the lower teams. Maybe it will be the making of the warriors lol