Organised crime and drugs in sport investigation part III

[herbert henry1908]

Exactly. NRL players can go to the park and play with each other any time. They don't have to play NRL. They have the right to go elsewhere or do something else.

So , you're happy with the NRL doing anything to catch drug cheats ?

 

[millersnose]

Yeah

And people should just accept the fact their phones are being tapped
If they want privacy they don't have to live in Australia

Athletes should accept the fact they are guilty because playing sport means you have decided you don't want human rights

 

[herbert henry1908]

Exactly, I have to have a police clearance for my work, is it an invasion of my privacy that my work compels me to provide this?

If you didn't answer the questions would you be subject to penalty or just not get the job?

 

[Perth Red]

I would not keep my job, pretty harsh penalty really but those are the expectations of the employer and role. If I don't like it I could get another job, same as a prof sports person can find alternative employment if they don't like the terms and conditions of their sporting employment.

 

[herbert henry1908]

I would not keep my job, pretty harsh penalty really but those are the expectations of the employer and role. If I don't like it I could get another job, same as a prof sports person can find alternative employment if they don't like the terms and conditions of their sporting employment.

And that's different.


This is a financial penalty on top of them not keeping their job.


Would you be happy to cop a fine and lose your job?

 

[herbert henry1908]

Don't forget , Coates was also the one calling for a judicial penalty if you didn't answer Asada questions.


This may only be civil penalty , but its the next step towards there being jail time.

Intact before the coalition and the greens stepped in , the government were proposing these laws.

 

[Perth Red]

And that's different.


This is a financial penalty on top of them not keeping their job.


Would you be happy to cop a fine and lose your job?

No because its not in my terms a d conditions. No different to a coach being fined 10k for crticising refs, I wouldn't accept a fine for being critical of a colleague, different rules.

 

[millersnose]

Some people don't seem to realise if you want to be an elite athlete you go to the Olympics
If you want to be a top class rugby league player you play in the NRL

There are not the employment alternatives open to the rest of us

And they should not be subject to having their private phone calls listened and other human rights abuses just because they are athletes

The issue is doping

In the overall scheme of things it doesn't matter a hell of a lot

So why subject these people to reduced rights we would not expect anyone else in the community to suffer


And why the f**k are phone taps - an expensive resource - and criminal law enforcement officers doing farging around with tapping a gymnasts phone

If there is a Boston style terrorist attack heads will need to roll because they have taken resources from hard crime to boutique crime that already has a whole government department enforcing

 

[herbert henry1908]

No because its not in my terms a d conditions. No different to a coach being fined 10k for crticising refs, I wouldn't accept a fine for being critical of a colleague, different rules.

just because its in the terms and conditions doesn't make it right or even legal.

all terms and conditions are subject to judicial review.


I hope these are tested and thrown out.

 

[herbert henry1908]

Some people don't seem to realise if you want to be an elite athlete you go to the Olympics
If you want to be a top class rugby league player you play in the NRL

There are not the employment alternatives open to the rest of us

And they should not be subject to having their private phone calls listened and other human rights abuses just because they are athletes

The issue is doping

In the overall scheme of things it doesn't matter a hell of a lot

So why subject these people to reduced rights we would not expect anyone else in the community to suffer


And why the f**k are phone taps - an expensive resource - and criminal law enforcement officers doing farging around with tapping a gymnasts phone

If there is a Boston style terrorist attack heads will need to roll because they have taken resources from hard crime to boutique crime that already has a whole government department enforcing

exactly.

people in all sorts of jobs should be treated fairly. no matter who they are.


There are no national security issues here.

its ludicrous.

 

[millersnose]

Meanwhile the government has just announced 1.7 billion dollars in extra funding for asada

No word yet on the extra they will spend on cancer research

 

[El Diablo]

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/asadas-lessons-on-lance-armstrong/story-e6frg7mf-1226634960276

Meanwhile, the problems for ASADA continue to mount after it emerged it could not use the ACC findings as evidence.

 

[El Diablo]

so do ASADA have anything?

maybe this explains all the media leaks as they're trying to scare players and get them to dob in

 

[Parra]

Well they have a lot more cash.

Mission accomplished.

 

[Burwood]

Meanwhile the government has just announced 1.7 billion dollars in extra funding for asada

No word yet on the extra they will spend on cancer research

Are you sure it isn't $1.7 million?

 

[Spot On]

Meanwhile the government has just announced 1.7 billion dollars in extra funding for asada

No word yet on the extra they will spend on cancer research

Can't be 1.7 billion.

 

[tumbidragon]

Yeah

And people should just accept the fact their phones are being tapped
If they want privacy they don't have to live in Australia

Athletes should accept the fact they are guilty because playing sport means you have decided you don't want human rights

 

[Perth Red]

Some people don't seem to realise if you want to be an elite athlete you go to the Olympics
If you want to be a top class rugby league player you play in the NRL

There are not the employment alternatives open to the rest of us

And they should not be subject to having their private phone calls listened and other human rights abuses just because they are athletes

The issue is doping

In the overall scheme of things it doesn't matter a hell of a lot

So why subject these people to reduced rights we would not expect anyone else in the community to suffer


And why the f**k are phone taps - an expensive resource - and criminal law enforcement officers doing farging around with tapping a gymnasts phone

If there is a Boston style terrorist attack heads will need to roll because they have taken resources from hard crime to boutique crime that already has a whole government department enforcing

Do asada have the power to phone tap any athlete to prove drug use? I thought it was the investigations of the acc who are looking for criminal activities that uncovered all this?

Ultimately you have to ask the question do you want a level laying field for athletes or are you happy to see some using substances to gain advantage. If you want clean sport then there is a price to pay.

 

[Diesel]

Meanwhile the government has just announced 1.7 billion dollars in extra funding for asada

No word yet on the extra they will spend on cancer research

Absolute f$&ksticks!

f$&k the $1.7b to ASADA, it should be going to cancer research not for governments piss away our money on their agenda

C$&nts

 

[Perth Red]

Absolute f$&ksticks!

f$&k the $1.7b to ASADA, it should be going to cancer research not for governments piss away our money on their agenda

C$&nts

Lol you really shouldn't believe everything you read on here! considering their current funding is less than $15 mill a year I very, very, very much doubt it is being increased by 1.7 bill unless that is over the next 100 years!

I see they have just announced they are going to spend $1.5 bill buying some aeroplanes, now that is a fricking disgrace when there is a $12billion hole in the budget.

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/funding-increased-to-bolster-integrity-20130503-2iyf2.html