Organised crime and drugs in sport investigation part III

[Garbler]

Peter FitzSimons: Banned Drugs

Two months ago, as this column noted at the time, NSW Minister for Sport Graham Annesley was called with other sports ministers for an emergency briefing by the ACC on where the investigation into drugs in sport was up to. Coming out of the meeting, he went straight into a live cross with Channel Nine, where there appeared to be an expectation among panellists that he would confirm there was not much to it. But no. When host Karl Stefanovic asked the former league referee his thoughts, the obviously shellshocked Annesley replied: ''[It's] quite serious … and scary in some ways.'' Interviewed a couple of days later on the ABC why the ACC and ASADA had made their announcement seemingly so early, Annesley replied that it was better to go early than, ''have to explain to the coroner why we announced too late''. Tragically, this week, we may have seen something of what Annesley was referring to - the potentially lethal consequences of taking supplements on the banned list.

It is, of course, way too early to determine if - as reported yesterday - there might have been a causal link between the peptides and Cronulla player Jon Mannah in 2011, and the return of the cancer that killed him. In fact, it has not been confirmed that Mannah did receive any of the substances. However, it does highlight the fact that all the concern about such drugs is not simply to do with their effect on sport. The reason a lot of them are on the banned list is because they are dangerous and potentially fatal. If that link is established in this case, it will move the whole terrible saga into an entirely different realm. And there really will be a lot of explaining that needs to be done to the coroner.

Annesley's words are looking tragically prophetic.

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/the-fitz-files/a-league-of-their-own--it-wont-last-20130426-2ijur.html

 

[BunniesMan]

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/the-fitz-files/a-league-of-their-own--it-wont-last-20130426-2ijur.html

But its all a media beatup! ASADA know nothing!

I remember the Annesley interview is the moment I knew there was substance to this. Here was a Liberal minister with a League background (so noone could accuse him of being just a Labor stooge or anti nrl) who was given the opportunity to bag the Labor feds and rubbish this and he didn't.

Ladies and gentlemen, this is real.

 

[Perth Red]

Out of curiosity what would the headline have looked like without the sensationalism?
I'm not sure it's that big a story after u remove the innuendo?

Was wondering this myself. Given they are reporting directly on the cronulla report they could have stuck to the facts and had:

Cronulla question possible supplement role in mannah's relapse

Something like that would have been justified and put the focus on the cronulla report rather than the players death. Of course it isn't sensationalising and as they say in the media, " if it bleeds it leads"

 

[El Diablo]

But its all a media beatup! ASADA know nothing!

I remember the Annesley interview is the moment I knew there was substance to this. Here was a Liberal minister with a League background (so noone could accuse him of being just a Labor stooge or anti nrl) who was given the opportunity to bag the Labor feds and rubbish this and he didn't.

Ladies and gentlemen, this is real.

f**k off gimp

you are the stupidest poster on this forum

 

[Diesel]

Hypothetically speaking, if Cronulla players are found guilty, do they get suspended at the interview or shortly after, or does this just go through the courts for months or years?

 

[ek999]

Get suspended immediately as soon as the infraction is issued I believe

 

[Diesel]

Thanks for that.

That'd have to play on your mind regardless how clean you are.

 

[Perth Red]

Get suspended immediately as soon as the infraction is issued I believe

Isn't it the NRL that will issue the suspension? Presumably asada would make a report to the arlc then they administer the penalty.

 

[Sydney Knight]

When are Essondon players going to be interviewed? They seem to be in it pretty deep

 

[Phil McGrawhan]

When are Essondon players going to be interviewed? They seem to be in it pretty deep

Ask Bunniesderp.
Being in law enforcement he would have his finger on the pulse.

 

[magpie4ever]

Hypothetically speaking, if Cronulla players are found guilty, do they get suspended at the interview or shortly after, or does this just go through the courts for months or years?

I'm fairly sure (it depends on the particular sport) with the NRL; ASADA would issue an infraction notice to the NRL; the NRL would then immediately advise the club and the player, the NRL might suspend the player immediately or not, the NRL would quickly arrange an expert Anti-doping Panel, the hearing would take place and a decision made on the penalty (if any) following the WADA penalty code.

 

[El Diablo]

what kind of roids must Bunniesmong be on to have a chin like his?

 

[Sea_Eagles_Rock]

But its all a media beatup! ASADA know nothing!

I remember the Annesley interview is the moment I knew there was substance to this. Here was a Liberal minister with a League background (so noone could accuse him of being just a Labor stooge or anti nrl) who was given the opportunity to bag the Labor feds and rubbish this and he didn't.

Ladies and gentlemen, this is real.

Please.... You do know who Peter Fitzsimmons is, don't you? Please don't be using any article by this man in an NRL forum. The guy has a patch tattooed on his arm and carries a pipe in his back pocket.

 

[ek999]

Isn't it the NRL that will issue the suspension? Presumably asada would make a report to the arlc then they administer the penalty.

Yeah the NRL issue the infraction notice based on what ASADA give them

 

[ek999]

Please.... You do know who Peter Fitzsimmons is, don't you? Please don't be using any article by this man in an NRL forum. The guy has a patch tattooed on his arm and carries a pipe in his back pocket.

Dead set f**kwit. He would have to be the most opinionated, biased, self-righteous wanker to ever be allowed to put his words into print

 

[El Diablo]

http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-...ion-would-pull-acc-from-drugs-in-sport-probe/

Coalition would pull ACC from drugs in sport probe
ABC April 28, 2013, 7:17 pm

The Australian Crime Commission (ACC) would be directed to stop investigating drug use in sport under a Coalition government.

The ACC is Australia's most powerful law enforcement agency.

Its recent report into illegal drug use in sport has led to the recent probes by the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority (ASADA) into the NRL and AFL.

The report also found that .

Opposition justice spokesman Michael Keenan told Insiders that the ACC should be focusing on more "serious criminals" and leave investigations into drugs in sport to ASADA.

However, he acknowledged that the ACC has stronger powers such as the ability to use phone taps to help it investigate.

He said ASADA would be "resourced properly" to do the job.

"The fact that the Crime Commission has those extensive powers means they should be focusing on the most serious criminals we do have," he said.

"That's what we will direct them to do if we get a chance to govern after September.

"We believe they should be looking at the most serious criminal activity in Australia and in the case of Australia that would mean bikie gangs, that would mean the most serious organised criminals that we have.

"So we're very keen to let the anti-doping authorities get on with anti-doping cases."
The Government says it is inappropriate to tell any law enforcement agency what it should be investigating.

 

[drago brelli]

Dead set f**kwit. He would have to be the most opinionated, biased, self-righteous wanker to ever be allowed to put his words into print

He'd be right at home on this site then.

 

[Sea_Eagles_Rock]

Dead set f**kwit. He would have to be the most opinionated, biased, self-righteous wanker to ever be allowed to put his words into print

Exactly...

The thing about any reaction to the news at the time of release was WTF??? They are serious allegations... Considering the massive wide spread nature of the allegations, it was a premature release caused by the Bombers getting inside information into the investigation. They were never ready to make this allegation against an individual, let alone a broad punch in the face to all sport in this country. In the end, teams were identified purely by history of involvement with Dank or any player Dank had been involved in. That is pretty thin evidence to drag clubs through the mud on.

When all is said and done, the leaks need to be identified and removed from roles of responsibility. These are confidential investigations. So far everything is leaking out from different directions (one assumes) and it is difficult to identify the motives of the people who are doing it.

The NRL needs to establish protocol around investigations going forward to control information and use encryption. I'm pleased Smith is looking into the report at the Sharks. That is disgraceful release of confidential information. That is by no way appropriate for release to the general public. I'd be forcing a full security audit on that if I was involved at the Sharks or the NRL. Somebody is compromised. Be it user or email account details. Perhaps some dropkick executive has "Sharkies" as their password or something. Or perhaps it is somebody on the recipient list.

 

[magpie4ever]

http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-...ion-would-pull-acc-from-drugs-in-sport-probe/

We now know what side of the fence the political interferers are on.:lol: The extreme right side.

 

[butchmcdick]

Seems a strange thing for uncle tone to get involved in