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Organised crime and drugs in sport investigation part III

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taipan

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Memo: Never ever use FitzSimons as some sort of guide in the press.He regularly knifes rugby league.This is the same clown,who vigorously had a shot at Stewart during his tribulations,and said SFA when the court stated he was innocent.
This guy is just another league hating member of the so called journalists that haunt our print media.Must be masochists gettign akick out of life,getting large numbers of the populace hating their guts.
Trying to get mileage out of rugby league problems,is his piece de resistance.
 

Perth Red

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How does Keenan know that the bikie gangs he wants the ACC to investigate are not the link with the drugs in sport investigation. Maybe, they are already doing what he wants.

Geez can you imagine this idiot in power? Everyone knows the acc isn't interested in players taking illegal products but in who is supplying them and if blackmail is involved to cause match fixing. Seriously is this person really an opposition minister? :crazy:

I can just see the memo;

Please stop investigating illegal drug trades, match fixing and blackmail and find something more important to do.
 

magpie4ever

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Geez can you imagine this idiot in power? Everyone knows the acc isn't interested in players taking illegal products but in who is supplying them and if blackmail is involved to cause match fixing. Seriously is this person really an opposition minister? :crazy:

I can just see the memo;

Please stop investigating illegal drug trades, match fixing and blackmail and find something more important to do.

It's true, from dumb to dumber. Great choice we have.:D
 

Garbler

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@taipan
Have a lot of sympathy for what Brett Stewart endured; if Fitzsimmons partook in that he is a right royal ar$ehole.

@Sea_Eagles_Rock
I wish the media would follow the leaks to the bigger story instead of being blindly played by whoever throws them the juiciest scrap of gossip. Surely with the TeleCrap they could have asked why does this law enforcement agency want this private report that is light on evidence but heavy on insinuation (Im referring to the causal link line) leaked to the public domain?
 
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Canard

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Mascord wrote a great piece in the SMH about how this WAS a story, but was "displayed" in an over the top manner.
 

Garbler

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Steve Mascord: Don't shoot the messenger

Three days later, debating the merits of Friday's Jon Mannah/Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority story only serves to reheat an emotional imbroglio that should be just starting to cool down. That's the last thing anyone needs. If Cronulla has written to ASADA, effectively dobbing themselves in over giving peptides to Mannah, I'm glad I know about it and that it wasn't covered up by a well-meaning journalist concerned about being maligned for writing it. These are the dilemmas we rarely face. There is a saying in tabloids: ''A good display can turn a good story into a great story.'' ''Display'' is photos, headlines etc. But an over-the-top display can clearly also turn a worthy story into a community scandal.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/the-truth-must-always-win-out-20130428-2ims9.html

I don't think I agree with Mascord.

a) Was Cronulla "effectively dobbing themselves in over giving peptides to Mannah"? I thought whether he took them or not was not part of the report.

b) Even if you hold a to be true just on Mannah's name being mentioned in report, how does the public knowing about this serve anybody but ACC interest of frightening the public into believing player's lives could be at risk?

Not even Syd Uni say there is a "genuine risk", it's only theoretical at this stage. The leak to tabloid gutter trash was deliberate; they knew they would maximise the fear and untruths to get the public opinion back in favor of the investigation & tighten the screws on the Sharks players before their interviews.

I don't think it's a story. Maybe it could be; in a week, month, year, decade time when there is actual evidence. But for now its just theories/ideas/rumours/gossip that were predictably dressed up as bombshells by TeleCrap, designed to favor whoever leaked the report and if the Mannah family get thrown under the bus in the process than so be it.
 

Canard

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Respect Mascord heaps, but he's sticking up for his mate(s) very clearly here.

I don't see it that way at all.

He is actually having a go at them for going over the top in their sensationalism.

If you are in possession of a report that mentions this it's News, but it should have been written more appropriately. (With other experts views sought)

The actual evidence in this case is the report, whether the link is established our not
 

Packy

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Mascord is a little blind to how we perceive things. He's a good'un no doubt but he needs to understand that all the other aren't to his standard
 

gronkathon

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Mascord & Hooper can be found out on the turps together around Pyrmont a few times a week. Thick as thieves
 

Fire

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So what happens with Cronulla and ASADA? They're saying interviews started today, so there would be a weight of the players shoulders.

But it is only the beginning of interviews, not the end, so why would Cronulla players feel relieved?
 

Garbler

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The actual evidence in this case is the report, whether the link is established our not

Exactly.

An unremarkable report authored by an ex ASADA official that stoops to a considerable low to back ACC agenda. But thats overlooked by the media in favor of towing the ACC line (Playing on people's fears, and fear for player welfare is what ACC is pushing).

Apparently the ACC is "Australia's most powerful law enforcement agency". The media are mostly just a mouthpiece for the powerful in society - they dont know how to ask a question; only how to print word for word press releases (and self serving leaks) from government + corporate bodies. They are tough on the weak & soft on the strong - but it appears even Mascord has a hard time owning up to that.
 

Garbler

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So what happens with Cronulla and ASADA? They're saying interviews started today, so there would be a weight of the players shoulders.

But it is only the beginning of interviews, not the end, so why would Cronulla players feel relieved?

Must be pretty tough for the players not being able to comment while the other side leak like crazy to the media trying to drag them and their careers through the mud.
 

Fire

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Must be pretty tough for the players not being able to comment while the other side leak like crazy to the media trying to drag them and their careers through the mud.

True.

I just don't get why they'd be "relieved."
 
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