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Origin II - Match discussion

borat

Bench
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OVP said:
Yes Please !!

I'm on that band wagon. Gotta get some punch out of the forwards because its just not happening. I have been soo disappointed with Hindmarsh this series. Everyone can't wait to give it to Ryan but the truth is he has taken over Hindmarsh's role of being everywhere on the field and Hindmarsh is just a shadow of what he used to be.

As much as Kimorley tried did we ever look like scoring when we hit the Qld line countless times. Bomb, grubber, bomb, grubber. That just doesn't cut it in Origin.
 

DeeGan

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The criticism of Kimmorley is not warranted. His kicking game was very good, his chase superb - he was let down by Buderus who refused to play creatively thus allowing us to zero in on Kimmorley and the NSW forwards just didn't give him the room afforded to Thurston. In a losing side, I can't fault his performance. He with Stewart was your best player on the damn park.
 
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typical NSW game plan , they have no idea what to do with the football , Anasta offers nothing to that team nor does Lyon , Stewart can hold his head high as can Danny, The rest might not as well played. New coach needed one that can offer some new tactics.
 

legend

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2008 will be a new start for Origin with a lot of players from this years series shown the door as well as the coach.

Lyon
Anasta
Hindmarsh
Bailey (this guy is f**king hopeless)


Guys like Carney and Mullen will have the chance to make the new era their own.
 

borat

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What the Hell was Simpson doing out so wide ? TWICE he ruined backline plays ... TWICE !! Idiot !!

I think Murray instructed him to stay out there on the right because we never looked like scoring and Lyon couldn't break the skin off a custard.
 

sooperdooper

First Grade
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my opinion:
first to go is murray, he is shocking.....
the way he uses his players, his timing of subs. Shocking

NSW had no creativity, kimmorley was great however when he got the ball in opposite 20, there was nothing on offer...
first to go would be lyon, he offers nothing.
ppl are calling for hindy, im sorry but he is just not used properly.... he is an outstanding player yet gets used poorly

as fatty called after the match, we need to find some centres!
i beleive our main concern is our havles... we lack creativity
 

Red Bear

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GC_Gladiator said:
I dont think the refereeing had anything to do with the loss if that is what some of you are insinuating. Qld were given 1 penalty all night, and there was definately some questionable marker defence and a couple of high shots that the commentators were mentioning.

On Ray warren- lol. "Brett stewart has diabetes", "he takes insulin and glucose everywhere he goes" , and he went on a bit about it trying to build him up. He wasn't the game winner the Rabs wanted, but played very well anyway.

What i thought was utter sh*t was Rabs and co trying to explain the game for melbournians. There wont be any watching because of the delay and lack of commitment from there piece of sh*t network. It seemed much like a token gesture for all the viewers down south.
Perhaps it was the pass that was a mile forward that queensland proceeded to score off

I agree kimmorley was good tonight, really put in hard i thought. I wouldnt mind seeing

6. Mullen
7. Kimmorley

13. Anasta (better role, showed some decent ball playing skills tonight)
12. Mason
11. Ryan
 

SirShire

First Grade
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Noddy played very well, it is a joke if you all use him as a scapegoat as he was best on the park for us bar Stewart

KITE is a slug and will NEVER make as a rep forward. Good club player at best.

HINDMARSH's best days are lone gone. He is absolutely abysmal.

COOPER and LYON had nothing. No penetration and never helped their forwards out. Shameful.

Back 3 were excellent, Nod great, Hoffman/Birdy both good but needed and deserved more time, Bailey and Mason damaging, Simpson good.

GOOD BYE MURRAY!
 

borat

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sooperdooper said:
my opinion:
first to go is murray, he is shocking.....
the way he uses his players, his timing of subs. Shocking

NSW had no creativity, kimmorley was great however when he got the ball in opposite 20, there was nothing on offer...
first to go would be lyon, he offers nothing.
ppl are calling for hindy, im sorry but he is just not used properly.... he is an outstanding player yet gets used poorly

as fatty called after the match, we need to find some centres!
i beleive our main concern is our havles... we lack creativity

I am sorry but Hindy keeps getting taken off because he isn't doing anything. There is no point leaving him on the field towards the end of a game when your behind because he isn't going to win it for you. It didn't used to be that way and IMO he is carrying some sort of injury but he just doesn't deserve to be there.
 

sooperdooper

First Grade
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game 3 havles if fit:
kimmorly/mullen
kimmorly/carney
its time to look towards 08 now.

a new coach as well...im not so sure if our forward pack needs to much changing. i think the main aim would be a coach
 

sooperdooper

First Grade
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game 3 havles if fit:
kimmorly/mullen
kimmorly/carney
its time to look towards 08 now.

a new coach as well...im not so sure if our forward pack needs to much changing. i think the main aim would be a coach
 

Dutchy

Immortal
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Whats with all the Kimmorley bagging? If the other 16 showed as much commitment and effort as him we would of won easily.

Stewart - Great Debut - not much better on the park
King - centres or not to play SOO
Lyon - dear oh dear -
Cooper - Ok
Hayne - decent game
Anasta - went missing...no where near as good as game 1
Kimmorley - Great game for a losing team and cats in the pack
Kite - get ya form back
Buderus - did his best, played well
Mason - where has the impact gone?
Hindmarsh - cant blame him for not playing as well as he normally would...Murray is a goose.
Simpson - good 1st half
Ryan - not a bad game, needed more wide running

White - ok when he was on
Bird - good...needed more Bird
Bailey - meh..dumbass penalty you trackhead
Hoffman - Didnt even see him play
 

Dragon

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Sooperdooper - Im also thinking they should throw Carney in for game 3. Wont happen though
 

sooperdooper

First Grade
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hindys best days are far from gone, maybe if murray used him properly, instead of just tackling.... then taking him off it would be fine


everyone is looking for scapegoats here and using hindy as it, due to him saying before the game if we lose maybe he should go....

murray has offered nothing in 2 season, thats the start...
 

Knightmare

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My thoughts:

* That game was a major dissappointment. If Queensland hadn't been awarded that try from a forward pass, no doubt Noddy would have taken the 2 pointer when NSW were awarded the penalty near their own line towards the end of the game. Hence the series decider is Game 3.

* Brett Stewart is a more than worthy replacement for Anthony Minichello. He didn't miss a beat all night and looked completely at home in the Blue jersey.

* Brett Kimmorley's kicking game was of a very high standard and his defensive effort was admirable as well. More like what we see from him week in week out at club level.
 

borat

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Dragon said:
Sooperdooper - Im also thinking they should throw Carney in for game 3. Wont happen though

Carney hasn't played for 3 weeks and just got sentenced to 200hrs comunity service today. You won't see Carney in origin 3
 
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