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phantom eel

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Watched the Seattle v 49ers game yesterday.

There's absolutely no position that Jarryd Hayne could play at elite NFL level. While an amazing and skillful athlete, his skill set and body doesn't look like it would be up to any position other than as punter.

Running back - occasionally get to run in a broken field, but usually spend time getting smashed by the big boys attempting to make 3 yard gains up the middle

Wide Receiver - he's fast enough, has a swerve to lose his defender, but would have to jink turn and leap to catch any ball from the quarterback - different to the skill set of a league fullback, and something the other guys have been training a lifetime to master.

Tight end - forget it, couldn't hold a rushing linebacker from getting past to smash the quarterback

Linebacker - wouldn't be able to read and respond to the opposition playbook quickly enough to shut down unmarked players and restrict the other team's offense. Again, it's a different story to defence in league, and the other guys have been training all their lives to master this.

Defensive secondary - Looks like it could be possible, needing similar decision-making aspects to league fullback play in defence. But NFL is so quick, you don't get the chance to even take a step the wrong way and I don't think he'd be able to read the changes of play (left-right switches, aerial vs running games) quickly enough to make it to elite level above guys that have been used to it all their careers.

Punt return - When a team puts on a good punt and chase they are right in the face of the punt return guy when he catches the ball. That's kind of like playing a league team that is allowed to be 10m offside... Jarryd would clam up with the lack of space. Sure, like running back/wide receiver the position can look flashy on the occasions where they do get to run in a broken field, but it just isn't going to happen for him.

So, I've re-evaluated my take on Jarryd's NFL "experiment"... I think he's using it like long service leave - getting out of pre-season league training, taking the Telstra sponsorship to film his reality-style documentary about his USA trip, and will return to the Eels to take his spot in the Top 25 for 2015.

Hoppa will play fullback until Hayne plays his first game on the last weekend of May (having had his break, got back into league training, and avoiding selection for State of Origin and issues of player burn out etc)!!
 

phantom eel

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I was trying to be positive, and give him some benefit of the doubt! Agree, he's not as quick as he'd need to be to hold down a position.

Hope he has a good fan's holiday of it over there though.
 

God-King Dean

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So, I've re-evaluated my take on Jarryd's NFL "experiment"... I think he's using it like long service leave - getting out of pre-season league training, taking the Telstra sponsorship to film his reality-style documentary about his USA trip, and will sign with the Bulldogs to take his spot in the Top 25 for 2015.

Fixed.
 

hindy111

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Told use seattle where specials.49rs have made a big mistake in Kapernaick.The guy is bog average.Sure has a good arm and running game but his vision and decision making is rubbish.
 

T.S Quint

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All correct points on Kap, but he's still young. This is only his 2nd full season as a starter.
SF's biggest problem this year is the lack of running game, which is placing all the pressure on Kap's shoulders.
I don't know how big of a mistake they have made by keeping him. He is still a better option than Alex Smith (who I was actually a fan of), and despite his flaws is still better than half the QB's in the NFL, with the potential to get better.
IN successive years, the Niners made a Superbowl and an NFC Championship game with him at QB, so he can't be all that bad.
 

hindy111

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Eli Manning won two bowls...Just saying.
Kapa's QBR rank him at 22. with a QBR of 52.7 in a good team that is bad....
He looked good his first year.S0 did RG3.I wouldn't write either off yet but id lean towards both not being there long term.
 

Ron Jeremy

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Bills d yet again amazing!!!

We are still a chance at playoffs, but geez we have a tough draw - we need to beat Denver or New England Atleast one if these games
 

hindy111

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Tought draw RON
Would need 10-6 to get a wild card. Bills yet too beat any of the top teams as of yet.Will be intresting too see how they go against green bay and Denver. Hopefully use can find a QB and next year with brady getting older use might start to gain control of your division.Team on the rise thou thats for sure.Them and the Rams could be the good 2015.

From what ive seen thou NE and Greenbay are the two best teams in the NFL. I dont think Denver can go with them but wont ride them off yet. Same as Seattle.There d is stepping up so aslong as can improve offense a little there still a chance. Phili are the dark horse but there a little like the colts.Lots of attack against the weaker teams but struggle against good d's
 

T.S Quint

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Eli Manning won two bowls...Just saying.
Kapa's QBR rank him at 22. with a QBR of 52.7 in a good team that is bad....
He looked good his first year.S0 did RG3.I wouldn't write either off yet but id lean towards both not being there long term.

Don't know where you pulled those numbers from.
His 2014 QBR is 87.8.
His career QBR is 91.6.
 
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America, eh? We were just talking about that fella Kurt Cobain. He was from America. Imagine blowing your head off with a shot-gun. How'd he manage to survive that?
 

hindy111

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I dont agree-Brady went well and Rodgers struggled in the red zone.Close game and Brady kept them in it.Packers should of won by more if not for poor execution in the zone.
Same goes for Peyton _ I just cant see Denver getting too the bowl this year.
 

Twizzle

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Rodgers simply does not struggle and I thought Brady was average in the second half, he hesitated a lot.
 

hindy111

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If they met in the Bowl id have to back NE based on what I saw.
Greenbay looked the better team.And where all over them but Brady worked well with what he was offered.And in the redzone ended the drives well.
I think both teams will meet in the BOWL.Just liked NE adjustment in defense to an on fire greenbay a little more.
 

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