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hindy111

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They finished 12-4, not far off. And weren't you saying that Sam Bradford was going to be the buy of the year? :lol: what a dud. [B]You guys could barely beat us [/B]even with half of our side on the sideline and a banged up McCoy :lol:

But that's it - We did beat use- And the Jets and the patriots on their home ground. We would of cleaned swept your group bar Sam going off in the MIami game. Same as Giants should of cleaned sweeped bar dud refs call going Patriots way.

No offense but our o line and D was also banged up against the Bills. I said Sam was an upgrade too Foles and Sanchez- And he was.

I like the Bills and good luck too them-My fave team in that group. But it wouldn't surprise me if they go back to a losing record next year. Not trying to be mean just my thoughts. Same as eagles I reckon they wont win more then 5 games next year.
 

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Sam was also out for 2 years. His last 6 games had one of the highest QBR in league. I am still not a fan.But a lot better then foles and wouldn't surprise me if came good.
 

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I don't like peyton cause he's a myth, chicks in the big games and not a winner. Seen it his whole career, the guy is simply overrated. He's the Brian smith of the nfl.

You do not have too like him......But ive seen Brady when Edelmen and gronk are out. Watched Miami beat them lol.... The gap between Qb's in an identical team would be a lot smaller then people imagine.......
 

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Ron might need some consoling today, the "choker" just beat his man crush (for the second time in 3 years) to make his 4th SB.
 

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Realy thought NE would destroy denver. With all those weapons in gronk edelmen amendola fit.Denvers d is special.Manning outplayed brady today in a great game.
How many times has these two met in playoffs? And whats the record
 

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Bar rodgers Cam now is the best qb imo and wilsons coming in..Brady sits 4th ...Mannings finished.But still has the smarts. CAROLINA will smoke them.46-13
 

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Mannings 3-2 vs brady in playoffs... Thrown more yards 4/5 of those games...
Hard to say who is better. Flip of coin. At their best personally id take manning just as better clock manager.But obviously Brady the last 3 yrs is superior.Mannings had a lot more injuries
 

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Realy thought NE would destroy denver. With all those weapons in gronk edelmen amendola fit.Denvers d is special.Manning outplayed brady today in a great game.
How many times has these two met in playoffs? And whats the record

Bar rodgers Cam now is the best qb imo and wilsons coming in..Brady sits 4th ...Mannings finished.But still has the smarts. CAROLINA will smoke them.46-13

Edelman was still raw after the layoff and Denver front 7 just ate the New England O-Line alive which gave Brady no time to operate. Incredibly he still mustered up that potentially game saving drive but Gronkowski gets plenty of credit there as well...what a monster.

Think you are right about Cam and Russ leading the way in the next generation of QBs (a bit of Seahawk bias for me here though), again Rogers asides. Both QBs have canon arms but I think Wilson is better in the pocket than Newton. However where Russ is crazy elusive and can dodge pressure like greased up deaf guy Cam is a straight up juggernaut as a running threat. It is actually crazy watching him plow through elite run stoppers and credit to Rivera and co for game planning to the unique skill set of Newton.

Still not sure about the Superbowl result though. The last time we saw an elite offence take on an elite defence in the big one the Seahawks ran all over the Broncos. Funnily enough the Broncos are on the other side of that balance now with their middling offence and monster defence. To be fair though, Carolina's defence is also excellent and considerably better than what the Bronco's fielded by comparison in the rout that was Superbowl 48. I am leaning to a Carolina victory when all is said and done.
 

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Wilson and Cam just ooze confidence..... Its hard too seperate the two. But Cams in the bowl so i have to give it too him.
I think this will be the end of an era for Brady. I will say one thing he is one tough bastard. Some of those hits he copped today! Just my gut feel is this was NE last big Brady season. Some other teams are on the rise in the group and building nicely.Maybe even Rons Bills can put it together next year. Something i would enjoy -I like seeing new teams win it. And you have too like the tyrod taylor story.He came from the clouds.
 

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I wouldn't put that win on Manning's shoulders - that was a defensive win all the way.
Manning did what he had to do to win, but he wasn't outstanding or anything. The blokes who won that game were the blokes on defence. Brady's o-linemen should be ashamed of themselves. They looked like the San Francisco O-line for most of that game, they were THAT bad.
Brady had no help from his front 5.

Having said that, it was still a good game. Great finish and I'm ok with the result.

Carolina look ominious though, don't they. Newton was superb, and their defence was fantastic.
Arizona hasn't played that badly in ages. And holy shit, didn't Carson Palmer have a bad game! What a stinker!
 
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Well, if people are going to judge Manning simply on his win-loss record in playoffs, then they have to take the rough with the smooth. He certainly wasn't the dominant influence yesterday, but in other games (in earlier years) he has been great and his defence no so great.


If Wilson was just a couple of inches taller....
 

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Bar rodgers Cam now is the best qb imo and wilsons coming in..Brady sits 4th ...Mannings finished.But still has the smarts. CAROLINA will smoke them.46-13

No love for Andrew Luck? I'd have him above Wilsom easily, despite his injury ravaged season.
 

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No love for Andrew Luck? I'd have him above Wilsom easily, despite his injury ravaged season.

Luck is a better passer. But wilson along with Cam are dual threats with the run game. And seem to have more confidence then Luck. I think luck could become the best thou in a season or two.
 

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I wouldn't put that win on Manning's shoulders - that was a defensive win all the way.
Manning did what he had to do to win, but he wasn't outstanding or anything. The blokes who won that game were the blokes on defence. Brady's o-linemen should be ashamed of themselves. They looked like the San Francisco O-line for most of that game, they were THAT bad.
Brady had no help from his front 5.

Having said that, it was still a good game. Great finish and I'm ok with the result.

Carolina look ominious though, don't they. Newton was superb, and their defence was fantastic.
Arizona hasn't played that badly in ages. And holy shit, didn't Carson Palmer have a bad game! What a stinker!


Mannnings was not great yesterday. He missed two open guys for TD's and they had too settle for 3 points. He also threw the backwards pass that gave NE there first Td... The score could of been a blow out if manning was on.

Brady outplayed Manning. And has for the last 3 years IMO. But this is not vintage manning. This is his worse season yet he managed to get them to the bowl with his noodle arm and fragile old body. Youo have to give him credit for that dont you?
 

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Just look at the scoreboard. The only stat that counts.

Manning is going to the superbowl in a season the knockers claimed he shouldn't even be playing.
 
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