OT: Association Football

[strider]

When Spencer Leniu calls Esra Mam a black whatever, should everyone just go, meh dumb footballer saying silly things - they always say dumb shit- move on?

 

[Twizzle]

When Spencer Leniu calls Esra Mam a black whatever, should everyone just go, meh dumb footballer saying silly things - they always say dumb shit- move on?

of course not, it's totally different, but that is not equal in comparison because, as I posted, calling a white man white is not against the law in England, so she was guilty of nothing more than drunk and disorderly

 

[Incorrect]

If I was a betting man, given her lineage I doubt this will be the last time she disgraces herself. As I posted when the trial started, alcohol, aka truth serum, has a tried and tested record of exposing human frailties. And she carried on like a prize pig in the Twickenham nick. It's just a matter of whether past or future occurrences make it to the public domain or if she is afforded some protection IMO...

 

[strider]

of course not, it's totally different, but that is not equal in comparison because, as I posted, calling a white man white is not against the law in England, so she was guilty of nothing more than drunk and disorderly

Of course calling someone white is not against the law in england ... calling someone black isnt either .... that alone is not an issue ... its of course about context

Unfortunately people have backed the world into this corner where they are so desperately trying to make a mountain out of every mole hill - and people cheer it on when its all going one way .... but this time they put the shoe on the other foot

 

[the phantom menace]

Sam Kerr, not guilty. Logical outcome given the law, and I have no issue with how she behaved given the context of what happened and how it happened on the night.

If she was a white Australian soccer player (or NRL player), no-one would probably have batted an eyelid.

I look forward to Sam being reappointed as Matildas captain shortly.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

If she was white she probably wouldn't have used the policeman's race in an insulting way.

 

[the phantom menace]

Maybe, but she didn't break any law in doing so - and based on the evidence of the night it could be argued she was speaking the truth.

Maybe if she wasn't as drunk she could have come up with better insults than that, but the same could be said about most of your attempted insults on here...

 

[Incorrect]

Everton earn a draw with the last f**king kick of the match in the last derby at Goodison Park..... Easy to say from half a word away but there was a lack of urgency from Liverpool on that last passage of play. They paid the price.... Only 7 points clear instead of 9.... Hats off to David Moyes BTW. Doing wonders since he returned to Everton....

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Maybe, but she didn't break any law in doing so - and based on the evidence of the night it could be argued she was speaking the truth.

Maybe if she wasn't as drunk she could have come up with better insults than that, but the same could be said about most of your attempted insults on here...

No she didn't break the law, she's just a bigot.

 

[King-Gutho94]

Everton earn a draw with the last f**king kick of the match in the last derby at Goodison Park..... Easy to say from half a word away but there was a lack of urgency from Liverpool on that last passage of play. They paid the price.... Only 7 points clear instead of 9.... Hats off to David Moyes BTW. Doing wonders since he returned to Everton....

I think your safe for this year.

Arsenal have become allergic to winning anything just like there bitter rivals Tottenham.

They dont have it in them to claw back 7 points and they would choke on it anyway if they got close enough.

 

[Gronk]

Of course calling someone white is not against the law in england ... calling someone black isnt either .... that alone is not an issue ... its of course about context

Unfortunately people have backed the world into this corner where they are so desperately trying to make a mountain out of every mole hill - and people cheer it on when its all going one way .... but this time they put the shoe on the other foot

Well Craig Foster went for her throat for being racist and then after he was educated, backed down and apologised.

He is an advocate for all things equality and the marginalised.

Former Socceroo says he made a mistake and is ‘very pleased to be able to learn’ that ‘racism can only be perpetrated against a marginalised person or group’

“As many experts and leading anti-racism groups have pointed out, interpersonal comments can be offensive, abusive or inappropriate, however, racism can only be perpetrated against a marginalised person or group, which anti-racism frameworks are specifically designed to protect.”

Foster cited the Diversity Council of Australia’s definition of racism as being when someone “with race-based societal power discriminates, excludes or disadvantages a racially based person” because of their race, colour or descent.

Craig Foster apologises to Sam Kerr after arguing her alleged remark to UK police officer was racist

Former Socceroo says he made a mistake and is ‘very pleased to be able to learn’ that ‘racism can only be perpetrated against a marginalised person or group’

www.theguardian.com

 

[Gronk]

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Well Craig Foster went for her throat for being racist and then after he was educated, backed down and apologised.

He is an advocate for all things equality and the marginalised.

Former Socceroo says he made a mistake and is ‘very pleased to be able to learn’ that ‘racism can only be perpetrated against a marginalised person or group’

“As many experts and leading anti-racism groups have pointed out, interpersonal comments can be offensive, abusive or inappropriate, however, racism can only be perpetrated against a marginalised person or group, which anti-racism frameworks are specifically designed to protect.”

Foster cited the Diversity Council of Australia’s definition of racism as being when someone “with race-based societal power discriminates, excludes or disadvantages a racially based person” because of their race, colour or descent.

Craig Foster apologises to Sam Kerr after arguing her alleged remark to UK police officer was racist

Former Socceroo says he made a mistake and is ‘very pleased to be able to learn’ that ‘racism can only be perpetrated against a marginalised person or group’

www.theguardian.com

She wasn't charged with racism, she was charged with racially aggravated harassment. In the case of Sam Kerr, the racial element wasn't in doubt. It came down to whether she was harassing the guy.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

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Who decides whether someone is in a position of power? If someone is free to verbally attack you without retaliation, then it's pretty clear there's a power imbalance. A rich celebrity always has power over a peasant who needs their job.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Sam Kerr lives in London, where at the time of the incident they had a Pakistani Mayor and an Indian Prime Minister. But somehow she was 'oppressed' by the 'dominant group'.

 

[bazza]

this Sam Kerr thing is the gift that keeps on giving for culture warriors that like to invent stuff to make themselves look like the victim

 

[bazza]

it is also good to see that society is equal in their treatment of sports stars - no matter your race, sexuality or gender the punishment you receive will be inversely proportional to how good you are at playing sport

 

[Poupou Escobar]

this Sam Kerr thing is the gift that keeps on giving for culture warriors that like to invent stuff to make themselves look like the victim

Sam Kerr was the victim here. Keep up.

 

[King-Gutho94]

I might get the popcorn ready.

 

[bazza]

Sam Kerr was the victim here. Keep up.

no - it is white people because if you changed everything they would have got in trouble