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hindy111

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Why don’t you engage honestly?

Why do you ignore detail and facts?

Why do you talk in meaningless generalisations?

Why do you constantly engage in diversionary tactics when people unpack and expose your loosely formed ideas?

I’m open to the idea that there is merit in some of what you are suggesting but you seem to lack the intellect and attention to detail that’s needed to convey your messages.

In my world I consume mainstream media and independent media and form my own views after analysing both. In analysing it I understand their motives and apply a healthy dose of cynicism to anything I consume.

By parroting shit and not demonstrating the ability to critically analyse issues you come across as brainwashed and hence why you are dismissed by others as a lunatic.

That said, you’ve become one of my favourite posters on here. You spice things up! If you ignore my advice and continue what you are doing that’s cool as well.


Ram spices up a plain ham sandwich and makes it taste amazing.
 

T.S Quint

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Mate fake news. No one outside of MSM viewers believes anything MSM says or what the courts decide by decree now a days. The system is totally broken. You can indict a ham sandwich as is evidenced by what they have done to Trump ffs! Seriously the polls are showing that no one trust the system anymore. Even Democrats polls are showing that around half of them now believe Trump won the election.

You and your mates are just in the on the other side of the poll. Nothing wrong with that, that is if you don't mind being on the wrong side of history.

Those are from court documents. You believe they made it up?
Do you have a link to any of these polls showing Democrats believing that Trump won the election?

More fake news.

Those were quotes taken from an interview he did. Which you can watch yourself.

 

Gronk

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I only found out not long ago that they don’t have Devon in Melbourne.
And in Adelaide they call it Bum Fritz.
I have devon PTSD. So much so that even in Italy when presented with the most premium mortadella, I had to Brett Kenny that baby.
 

TheRam

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Why don’t you engage honestly?

Why do you ignore detail and facts?

Why do you talk in meaningless generalisations?

Why do you constantly engage in diversionary tactics when people unpack and expose your loosely formed ideas?

I’m open to the idea that there is merit in some of what you are suggesting but you seem to lack the intellect and attention to detail that’s needed to convey your messages.

In my world I consume mainstream media and independent media and form my own views after analysing both. In analysing it I understand their motives and apply a healthy dose of cynicism to anything I consume.

By parroting shit and not demonstrating the ability to critically analyse issues you come across as brainwashed and hence why you are dismissed by others as a lunatic.

That said, you’ve become one of my favourite posters on here. You spice things up! If you ignore my advice and continue what you are doing that’s cool as well.

Look this all started with the ban of meat for 14 cities article and how it is not something the C40 are perusing actively and more a suggestion or run it up the flag pole and have ideas or discussions about it or whatever.

So yeah how do I prove something they aren't publicly saying that they are categorically and actively going after to do right now? No one can, but as we know, that's how almost all these things work. They form groups, associations, clubs, think tanks or societies and write papers, public announcements, forums, presentations or symposiums and tell the world what is likely to happen down the road and say things like we don't know exactly how things will pan out, but it is inevitable that this or some version of this(insert the idea-plan) will happen. And as with almost all these things that we as a society never really get a say in or a vote since they are so radical and destructive to our current way of life, we are told it is absolutely necessary and vital we get it done because of climate change and or over population and or another pandemic.

We used to have public debates and let the public decide the merits or otherwise on these sorts of society altering ideas, but now we barely ever do and if we do it the side against is stacked with the worst and lamest candidates to put up a proper case. But mostly they don't debate anymore, they just discuss with like minded people or tell you what will be happening or what they plan of eventually doing be a certain time frame.

I mean look at man made climate change, now you probably believe in it right? Well I absolutely don't. You may think I am a lunatic, but I think you and everyone else that has fallen for that nonsense is a lunatic. So where do we go with that? You will cite that, what is it 99% of scientist say it's real and that the science is settled? But I say that there is no way on Gods green earth that 99% of scientist agree and the science is anything but settled.

Also look at the covid and the vaccine. You may say it is safe but I would say in my opinion it is the most dangerous and harmful vaccine/drug ever released on a global scale against humanity.

On both these issues we can argue both points of view by citing different news report, papers, videos etc. that are seemingly equally and legitimately supported. So what do we do? Who is right and who is wrong? I mean both these things can't be right and wrong at the same time, so which is right?

Well I look for patterns and trends and also look at history to make my mind up one way or the other on who would most likely be telling something closer to the truth. So lets look at it for a second. Historically power ALWAYS wants more power and once obtained never gives it up willingly or without some major intervention that can seize it away form whoever has hold of it. On that I think most of us can agree right? So we have an unelected EU that runs and makes more than 85% of all the decisions and laws that the member States must adhere to. Add to that that we have an America that, I'll just pick from 9/11 onwards, that what within a week of that event passed the Patriot Act and all those goodies within it just waiting to be let loose on its citizens.

So combine just those two things, an unelected Governing body ruling Europe and an America that has been slowly descending into lawless chaos run by a political class and a Corporate elite that only want what benefits them and their agendas, who or what is looking after our, the peoples interests?

Like I said power only wants more power, and no matter what its representatives says to the population it purports to be protecting and providing for, we all know that that is an out and out lie and always has been and always will be.

So historically we humans have always had an elite class and a servant class. As an example serfdom in the middle ages. Then we had renaissance and discovered the Americas, combine democracy in the mix and the Jeannie was out of the bottle. But other than the last 200-300 years or so man and societies have never been free. The elites have always run roughshod over the rest of us. So when I then read books or exerts from them, papers, lectures, public forums, discussions or whatever other medium that they themselves have written or presented that tell us all what they are planning and or working towards or when they crystal ball it and give their thoughts on what the future holds, I take note and listen. I find what they say a lot more compelling then anything anyone here may say, no matter what they site, because it is coming from the people that have all the power or their representatives.

And the common theme is a much discussed and necessary massive population control program and the loss of all of our civil rights and liberties, ultimately ushering in a world order of total oppression abject misery for 99% of the people left and only made possible if we buy into the immanent threat of a man made climate change and a possible new pandemic, which they are linking to climate change as well.

Continue next post...
 

TheRam

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Continued...

So if you look at trends and patterns the only direction we have been heading in the last few decades is a complete and total collapse of everything that made the west the best. A Cloward and Piven style strategy that the political classes around the world have adopted and been using very successfully. So sure are there things that I might say or post that I can't categorically point at and say here is the proof 100%, sure but the world of politics doesn't work like that and for everything that I may post there will be someway to refute it. That is just the way it is. Something like 14 cities banning meat, is way to early in the push towards that goal to have real proof just yet, but I bet you a bag of chips, I'm a tight arse, that we will hear a Hell of a lot of this type of thing in the next decade or so. We already are seeing many items being brought out that have insect products in them. Gates is pushing his fake meat everywhere and so far people have been rejecting it, but do you think that will stop him or his mates?

Also I must admit, so often when I post stuff that some may dispute the veracity of and want proof, I'm just to lazy or can't be bothered hunting down the source that I read, heard, or saw it from. Or if it is something from years ago, I wouldn't even know how to find it again a lot of the time. But mainly I am just to lazy and couldn't be bothered trying to convince people that will only dispute it anyway with their own source with the counter view or just refute everything in the link or post I have posted.

When I post things it isn't for these people. I post things for people that are on the fence and want to get the other sides point of view, so that is where my lazy, can't be bothered debating with you guys attitude comes from. I know you are locked in to your own opinions and thoughts and we just don't agree on a lot of these matters. You have an unless I can hear, see, or smell it approach, then I won't take it onboard otherwise. I on the other hand don't believe politics or power run that way or do things that way at all. They say and do things through surrogates and push radical plans through concept provoking think tanks and the like.

They prepare the populous slowly and then Hollywood and the msm jump onboard and make it part of society and cultural discussion while always maintaining that it isn't being planned or does not exist....until one day it does and without much resistance because by the time radical plans and ideas come online sometimes decades in the planning, the oldies that would have put up the greatest fight, because they knew a time before that was better for them are now way fewer or dead and the new generation has been educated(indoctrinated) or become acclimatized with the slow adoption of way/ways and they don't know a time that there wasn't some form of this in their lives. It is just the way it is.

So my final point is I follow trends and patterns and at the moment everything the Globalist think tanks and the like start to talk about and eventually push slowly gets introduced and implemented eventually. This I think if you are honest will agree at least to some extent. I mean our liberties are way less now than 50 years ago for example. So like I said in my previous posts, I reckon, because that is what they keep telling us is the target date, that by 2030 we will know one way or another who is more right or wrong. And like I also have stated previously, I hope I am way wrong and you can all laugh your freaking heads off at me for being so stupid to believe that the worlds governments and corporations have been taken over by nefarious monsters that only want to see most of us all disappear and the few remaining ones be their servants once again and this time do to genetic manipulation for keeps.

Oh and thanks for your compliment at the end of your post. Much appreciated.

P.S.
TLDR. Synopsis = I'm a lazy merkin and couldn't be bothered backing up anything I say. Cheers
 

T.S Quint

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Continued...

So if you look at trends and patterns the only direction we have been heading in the last few decades is a complete and total collapse of everything that made the west the best. A Cloward and Piven style strategy that the political classes around the world have adopted and been using very successfully. So sure are there things that I might say or post that I can't categorically point at and say here is the proof 100%, sure but the world of politics doesn't work like that and for everything that I may post there will be someway to refute it. That is just the way it is. Something like 14 cities banning meat, is way to early in the push towards that goal to have real proof just yet, but I bet you a bag of chips, I'm a tight arse, that we will hear a Hell of a lot of this type of thing in the next decade or so. We already are seeing many items being brought out that have insect products in them. Gates is pushing his fake meat everywhere and so far people have been rejecting it, but do you think that will stop him or his mates?

Also I must admit, so often when I post stuff that some may dispute the veracity of and want proof, I'm just to lazy or can't be bothered hunting down the source that I read, heard, or saw it from. Or if it is something from years ago, I wouldn't even know how to find it again a lot of the time. But mainly I am just to lazy and couldn't be bothered trying to convince people that will only dispute it anyway with their own source with the counter view or just refute everything in the link or post I have posted.

When I post things it isn't for these people. I post things for people that are on the fence and want to get the other sides point of view, so that is where my lazy, can't be bothered debating with you guys attitude comes from. I know you are locked in to your own opinions and thoughts and we just don't agree on a lot of these matters. You have an unless I can hear, see, or smell it approach, then I won't take it onboard otherwise. I on the other hand don't believe politics or power run that way or do things that way at all. They say and do things through surrogates and push radical plans through concept provoking think tanks and the like.

They prepare the populous slowly and then Hollywood and the msm jump onboard and make it part of society and cultural discussion while always maintaining that it isn't being planned or does not exist....until one day it does and without much resistance because by the time radical plans and ideas come online sometimes decades in the planning, the oldies that would have put up the greatest fight, because they knew a time before that was better for them are now way fewer or dead and the new generation has been educated(indoctrinated) or become acclimatized with the slow adoption of way/ways and they don't know a time that there wasn't some form of this in their lives. It is just the way it is.

So my final point is I follow trends and patterns and at the moment everything the Globalist think tanks and the like start to talk about and eventually push slowly gets introduced and implemented eventually. This I think if you are honest will agree at least to some extent. I mean our liberties are way less now than 50 years ago for example. So like I said in my previous posts, I reckon, because that is what they keep telling us is the target date, that by 2030 we will know one way or another who is more right or wrong. And like I also have stated previously, I hope I am way wrong and you can all laugh your freaking heads off at me for being so stupid to believe that the worlds governments and corporations have been taken over by nefarious monsters that only want to see most of us all disappear and the few remaining ones be their servants once again and this time do to genetic manipulation for keeps.

Oh and thanks for your compliment at the end of your post. Much appreciated.

P.S.
TLDR. Synopsis = I'm a lazy merkin and couldn't be bothered backing up anything I say. Cheers

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