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Bandwagon

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We could be on the brink of nuclear holocaust and people are concerned about gronksplaining!

Putin wants Ukraine's assets, particularly it's natural assets.

He will not use nukes and f**k that up.

At worst he might if it gets to the point that he's completely f**ked and it makes no difference to him. But the war's not likely to go that way as Trump will pull US support.
 
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Putin wants Ukraine's assets, particularly it's natural assets.

He will not use nukes and f**k that up.

At worst he might if it gets to the point that he's completely f**ked and it makes no difference to him. But the war's not likely to go that way as Trump will pull US support.

He only wants some of the assets and he definitely doesn’t want NATO on his doorstep.

One million casualties, billions of dollars wasted….because we didn’t listen.

I don’t think the US would wear Mexico getting nuked up and presenting as a threat to the US.

Times in life, you have to go with the flow.

Biden is a lame duck president, he shouldn’t be sending or releasing weapons to the ukkies.

There should be a ceasefire and talks now. Stop mindless deaths.
 

Bandwagon

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He only wants some of the assets

He wants the whole country, they marched on Kiev if you'll remember and nearly got there. Putin thought the campaign would be a couple of weeks. He was wrong.

he definitely doesn’t want NATO on his doorstep.

He probably doesn't, but his invasion of Ukraine literally pushed Finland and Sweden into joining Nato, so he's got Nato on his doorstep whether he likes it or not.

Yet where was all the song and dance about Nato on the border over Finland? Perhaps it's really got f**k all to do with Nato, and everything to do with Putin's expansionism.

One million casualties, billions of dollars wasted….because we didn’t listen.

Nah, that's Russian propaganda. Russia invaded, it started with the Crimean Peninsular a decade ago, and back then the west did f**k all. It took a full scale invasion to to say whoa, hang on a minute there.

Biden is a lame duck president, he shouldn’t be sending or releasing weapons to the ukkies.

What then, because Biden lost he should stop all US support and just concede Ukrainian territory to Putin by default?

Do you think the Ukrainians might deserve a say here?
 

Gronk

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Joe Rogan this weekend to Ukraine: “f**k you man. How dare you launch missiles into Russia. You’re going to start WWIII. I mean, f**k your people.”


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He wants the whole country, they marched on Kiev if you'll remember and nearly got there. Putin thought the campaign would be a couple of weeks. He was wrong.

He probably doesn't, but his invasion of Ukraine literally pushed Finland and Sweden into joining Nato, so he's got Nato on his doorstep whether he likes it or not.

Yet where was all the song and dance about Nato on the border over Finland? Perhaps it's really got f**k all to do with Nato, and everything to do with Putin's expansionism.


Nah, that's Russian propaganda. Russia invaded, it started with the Crimean Peninsular a decade ago, and back then the west did f**k all. It took a full scale invasion to to say whoa, hang on a minute there.



What then, because Biden lost he should stop all US support and just concede Ukrainian territory to Putin by default?

Do you think the Ukrainians might deserve a say here?

No, I stand by my arguments and Joe Rogan is right.

You should listen to what Chomsky has to say about it. I’ve posted it up. He’s across it all.

Thosands dead and millions of casualties and people want to argue about who is right and who is wrong?

US feeding weapons into what is a lost cause.

This notion that Putin is going to put up his hands, say he is sorry and stand down isn’t very sensible. Especially when he’s sending ICBMs over.

Dead people can’t argue.

It’s time for peace and a settlement.

Stop the killing.
 

Gronk

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No, I stand by my arguments and Joe Rogan is right.

You should listen to what Chomsky has to say about it. I’ve posted it up. He’s across it all.

Thosands dead and millions of casualties and people want to argue about who is right and who is wrong?

US feeding weapons into what is a lost cause.

This notion that Putin is going to put up his hands, say he is sorry and stand down isn’t very sensible. Especially when he’s sending ICBMs over.

Dead people can’t argue.

It’s time for peace and a settlement.

Stop the killing.

You could get a job with

 
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You could get a job with


That’s one of my sources, along with many others.

It’s important to consider the different accounts, understand and appreciate biases and other motives.

But there’s not much point telling dead and maimed Ukrainians that it’s ok because you’ve won an argument

You aren’t doing them or anyone else any favours.

I think we need an immediate ceasefire and meaningful talks.
 
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