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Joshuatheeel

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@Avenger also on Trump has no idea on how world affairs work....an example is in nuclear weapons.

The biggest deterrence to being attacked, is having nuclear weapons.

The US has supported security in Europe and Asian countries from China, Russia through NATO and other treaties. Generally all these countries have the some democratic principles.

If the US can no longer be trusted, as they now take the side of Russia (which potentially gives the green light to China to take Taiwan) countries like Germany, Japan and South Korea who aren't nuclear powers, will now need seek to obtain their own nuclear weapons to protect themselves (similar to the reason Iran and North Korea try so hard to develop their own)...

There was a reason the US took on a security leadership role in the Europe/Asia....more nuclear weapons is a disaster and adds to a period of instability in World affairs.... Trump is creating a dangerous vacuum....
 

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For example, when the USA protected Albanians in Kosovo and created a fake country you reckon it was done because the US cares about Muslim people? No it wasn’t or they’d protect them all over the world. It was because they wanted a US military base in the centre of Europe. Now it’s basically become a corrupt drug cartel area with no future.

Trump wants the minerals deal from Ukraine because he wants some of his money back from the Biden led proxy war. Nothing is for free and Zelensky with idealistic and naive approach doesn’t get it which is why the world will eventually turn on him like most ‘liberators’ of their country. It’s a dirty business and there are no heroes.

The fact that some on here can use some type of biased media reference point and think they know what is happening is laughable and incredibly naive. This is why and I repeat the truth is somewhere in the middle. Nobody knows especially some footy fanatics on what the f**k is really going on.
 

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@Avenger also on Trump has no idea on how world affairs work....an example is in nuclear weapons.

The biggest deterrence to being attacked, is having nuclear weapons.

The US has supported security in Europe and Asian countries from China, Russia through NATO and other treaties. Generally all these countries have the some democratic principles.

If the US can no longer be trusted, as they now take the side of Russia (which potentially gives the green light to China to take Taiwan) countries like Germany, Japan and South Korea who aren't nuclear powers, will now need seek to obtain their own nuclear weapons to protect themselves (similar to the reason Iran and North Korea try so hard to develop their own)...

There was a reason the US took on a security leadership role in the Europe/Asia....more nuclear weapons is a disaster and adds to a period of instability in World affairs.... Trump is creating a dangerous vacuum....
It’s not just Trump. It’s his entire party that have this view. If you think for a moment that he is some type of dictator that isn’t questioned by his own party than you really haven’t taken the red pill.
 

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@Avenger also on Trump has no idea on how world affairs work....an example is in nuclear weapons.



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It’s not just Trump. It’s his entire party that have this view. If you think for a moment that he is some type of dictator that isn’t questioned by his own party than you really haven’t taken the red pill.
Please, you really think he is being questioned by his MAGA party?.......

It's a cult.....a lot are on record opposing his views, before they took the pill...
 

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That's the shit, the conspiracy co don't want to hear...

The fact is he is living in a war zone, at the risk of being killed 24/7.

If he was all about money, he could have easily become an Putin surrogate, after being elected. Taken the cash, lived like a king, slowly becoming one of worlds rich humans selling off Ukraine's valuable resources. All in peace....

But hey, he preferred to do it the hard way...makes no f**ken sense .....#idiots
it is a weird conspiracy - the guy living in a war zone is the one making all the money while the other guy in the Kremlin using kids as cannon fodder is the real hero
 

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A cult? Seriously you are a f**king drama queen. Same can be said about your woke left.

Yes a cult, to scared to oppose Trump.

GOP member today, opposing the stance, but to scared to call out Trump:


Here is Rubio the Trump Secretary of State, asking Biden to investigate Russia for possible attacks against Americans. He now claims there is great opportunities partnering with Russia



Collins another GOP asking for a investigation into Russia



Another GOP supporting Ukraine the other day



Another GOP reckons Ukraine should get NATO membership



GOP Tillis supporting Ukraine



Another GOP



Another GOP



Year old one but a good one

https://twitter.com/gop4ukraine/status/1780965702536483219?s=46

And that's only a small percentage....shit load more out there....
 

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Peter Dutton says Donald Trump ‘got it wrong’ over comments lashing Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky​

Peter Dutton has criticised the US President over claims accusing Volodymyr Zelensky of being a dictator, and said Australia must continue to stand with Ukraine.

Mr Dutton said he was proud of Australia’s support of Ukraine, adding that Russia’s illegal invasion of Ukraine in February 2022 was “unprovoked” and an “act of aggression”.

Although Mr Dutton said the US was an “incredibly important ally of ours,” he said Australia should “stand strong and proud with the people of Ukraine”.

“The thought that President Zelensky or the Ukrainian people started this battle, or somehow they were responsible for the war, is just wrong,” he said.

“It’s a democracy, and this is a fight for civilisation. Vladimir Putin is a murderous dictator, and we shouldn’t be giving him an inch.”

 

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Peter Dutton says Donald Trump ‘got it wrong’ over comments lashing Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky​

Peter Dutton has criticised the US President over claims accusing Volodymyr Zelensky of being a dictator, and said Australia must continue to stand with Ukraine.

Mr Dutton said he was proud of Australia’s support of Ukraine, adding that Russia’s illegal invasion of Ukraine in February 2022 was “unprovoked” and an “act of aggression”.

Although Mr Dutton said the US was an “incredibly important ally of ours,” he said Australia should “stand strong and proud with the people of Ukraine”.

“The thought that President Zelensky or the Ukrainian people started this battle, or somehow they were responsible for the war, is just wrong,” he said.

“It’s a democracy, and this is a fight for civilisation. Vladimir Putin is a murderous dictator, and we shouldn’t be giving him an inch.”

Says Peter Dutton - known member of the woke left cult
 

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What TF is happening ?

“The no jab, no play policy is in place to help keep children safe from vaccine-preventable diseases like measles, whooping cough, chicken pox and meningococcal,” she said.

Why would you roll the dice with your children's lives ? Death can occur with all of the above.

Whooping cough ! Why would you risk that with your baby ?




 

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Its pretty normal for politicians to toe the party line.
In Australian politics and other countries with a similar political systems like NZ, Canada, UK etc etc...it's very common....but generally it's a census view (negotiated within cabinet).

But not in the US (obviously a different political system). Historically when the Presidency and congress is under the same party, there has always been a fair bit of independence and differing views between the two (because of how the system is structured/works), forcing a consensus ......now it's just one man party....all just agreeing with what ever Trump says or does....

There has also been reporting of threats against GOP members who go against Trump or threaten with challengers if they go againsr




 
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