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The flea didn't get his own way and left home early. Like I said many times, he will be exiled from his own country and not remembered as the 'hero' many of you think he is. What the f**k did he expect? a continued war by proxy?

This is smooth brained maga nonsense. The world is on his side.
 

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I heard that early this morning. J d Vance was interrupting and being condescending to Ukraine guy like he was talking to a 12 year old.

These pricks think that world peace can only be achieved if America can make some cash out of it. Lots of countries have out their hands in their pockets and helped. We certainly have. That’s what allies do.

What allies don’t do is hold a carrot of peace in front of of Ukraine and expect to get their rare earth minerals as some sort of a quid pro quo.

The world has seen what an alliance with usa would be like.
 

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I heard that early this morning. J d Vance was interrupting and being condescending to Ukraine guy like he was talking to a 12 year old.

These pricks think that world peace can only be achieved if America can make some cash out of it. Lots of countries have out their hands in their pockets and helped. We certainly have. That’s what allies do.

What allies don’t do is hold a carrot of peace in front of of Ukraine and expect to get their rare earth minerals as some sort of a quid pro quo.
Do you honestly think the US wasn't going to reap the rewards of Ukraine's resources before Trump came along? The hundreds of billions poured into the war have strings attached. Ukraine has agreed to privatise everything. The vultures will swoop no matter what.

The only difference with Trump is he blurts it all out cos he doesn't think he needs to play secrets - he just thinks everything in the world is big business (and he is probably right)

countries like Australia kick in their pittance to the cause cos they need to pay homage to the the boss (USA). Its good diplomacy. The yanks want it to look like everyone is onside with whatever they are doing.
 
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Lol, Trump's really an amateur at this international leadership stuff when he's trying to do it in person.

Sure Donald can do his one trick pony "bully" thing from a distance and via social media real well - but he really abjectly failed to successfully negotiate with (or even to bully) Zelenskyy in person, and all captured on live TV.
 
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So glad Trump's one sided "deal" to claim millions from Ukraine's mineral wealth is now in jeopardy. Talk about an own goal from America's leader....

Given Trump has made it clear he is not a friend of NATO, hopefully all it galvanises Europe to realise Trump can't be relied on, and for Europe to unite and get behind Ukraine so Trump ally (and maybe busine$$ ally?) Putin doesn't get away with his expansionist ways.
 
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And he tried to tell Trump in his own office that you ‘will see how you feel when one day it comes to your shores.’
But he didn't just try to - he actually did! Tryhard Trump and Vance deserved it, and Zelenskyy sure delivered.

Humiliation in a big way - but watch Trump's desperate media / social media attempts to spin it any other way.
 

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But he didn't just try to - he actually did! Tryhard Trump and Vance deserved it, and Zelenskyy sure delivered.

Humiliation in a big way - but watch Trump's desperate media / social media attempts to spin it any other way.
There will always be spin from either side. You just have to know what you will end up doing when the bottle halts and is pointing to you. Zelensky had his moment and his naivety cost him today, tracksuit pants and all. $$$
 

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There will always be spin from either side. You just have to know what you will end up doing when the bottle halts and is pointing to you. Zelensky had his moment and his naivety cost him today, tracksuit pants and all. $$$
Mate you are entitled to your opinion, but please realise that UK, the rest of Europe and Australia are firmly on the side of the country that was invaded.

So by all means share your opinions, but understand that the rest of the world don’t share the Russian or MAGA view of this crisis.
 

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And he tried to tell Trump in his own office that you ‘will see how you feel when one day it comes to your shores.’


Zelensky is 0/10 for assessing the mindset of the other side and playing to that...he doesn't realise Trump will always help an underdog that shows appreciation and humility...not to mention the economic interest angle which could have been a big win for Ukraine...dumb merkin.
I don't actually think Zelinsky is the big baddy in it all ... he is just the puppet they used to play it all out. He actually talked peace and cooperation before getting elected ... then the yanks "threw their support behind him" and it was all anti-russia. I genuinely think he ended up cornered and had to play along to save his own life.

That said, he seems to willingly play along with it all. Its like a big TV show .... the f**kin endless tshirts and tracksuits are ridiculous. And the parade of celebrities through a supposed warzone, FMD. Its a big f**kin game.
 
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There will always be spin from either side.
But the recording of the exchange is now out there for all to see, spin free. Trump's lucky that American's are too dumb/busy to look for unbiased source material.
You just have to know what you will end up doing when the bottle halts and is pointing to you.
Usually you just get up and kiss the person the other end of the bottle is pointing to... unless I'm missing the reference?
Zelensky had his moment and his naivety cost him today, tracksuit pants and all. $$$
I think Trump was the real loser of potential dollars today. That's why the bully boys were so angry - and humiliated.
 

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But the recording of the exchange is now out there for all to see, spin free. Trump's lucky that American's are too dumb/busy to look for unbiased source material.

Usually you just get up and kiss the person the other end of the bottle is pointing to... unless I'm missing the reference?

I think Trump was the real loser of potential dollars today. That's why the bully boys were so angry - and humiliated.
You miss the point. Here it matters who is the boss. The bottle stopped at Zelensky and he was supposed to kiss and give Trump a hug. Instead he insulted him by giving the very hand that feeds him a prophecy on how America will feel when it happens to them. He is a f**king idiot. And like Strides said, whether he likes it or not that aid given by Biden has strings. It wasn't for free.
 
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