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Avenger

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He's already been trying to both in previous days - as Trump's move was highly predictable, based on his strategy and behaviour.
How was it predictable when Zelenskyy tried to talk about diplomacy and questions the US commitment in front of the world media. Perhaps he should have done all this behind closed doors and just do the usual PR stuff in front of the cameras and eventual sign off.

Just keep f**king attacking everything Trump does. It’s always his fault, isn’t it? Zelenskyy is a f**king dumb merkin and showed his naivety with f**king that up. Even some left leaning media have reported on his lack of foresight and diplomacy in that meeting especially when the world knows that he can display bullying tactics. I actually think Trump was quite diplomatic until JD Vance pulled Zelenskyy up.
 

Gronk

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That’s a significant development. Will Zelenskyy now ask for more commitment from Europe or urgently sign the minerals deal?
He was already prepared to sign the minerals deal. It's just that the deal that was on the table didn't include any security guarantees for his country. The framework agreement did not include a commitment from the U.S. to support Ukraine in case of further Russian f**kery. Trump wanted the minerals, but reckoned that it was Europe's job to offer security.

So Volo told him to GGFd.

IIRC what happened next was.

Sad Baby GIF


 

Avenger

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He was already prepared to sign the minerals deal. It's just that the deal that was on the table didn't include any security guarantees for his country. The framework agreement did not include a commitment from the U.S. to support Ukraine in case of further Russian f**kery. Trump wanted the minerals, but reckoned that it was Europe's job to offer security.

So Volo told him to GGFd.

IIRC what happened next was.

Sad Baby GIF


Still could have been done behind closed doors which is why that’s now Zelenskyy in your little funny gif.
 

Gronk

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Most or you saw it differently? Which is fine
Well from what I understand, most of the world saw it as a brazen premeditated set-up. Public humiliation in front of the cameras. Why was it in front of the camera in the first place, considering that these high level talks are NEVER like that ?





 

Avenger

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Well from what I understand, most of the world saw it as a brazen premeditated set-up. Public humiliation in front of the cameras. Why was it in front of the camera in the first place, considering that these high level talks are NEVER like that ?





You realise the other side can also use put up just as many references with the opposite view? Or are they all just stupid and disciples of Trump?
 

JokerEel

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Well from what I understand, most of the world saw it as a brazen premeditated set-up. Public humiliation in front of the cameras. Why was it in front of the camera in the first place, considering that these high level talks are NEVER like that ?







Again you mean you not most don't hide behind the rest of the world just own your opinions.
 
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