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RustedonEel

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Gronk said:
The Morrison government capped public servant numbers and created a "shadow workforce" of consultants and contractors, costing taxpayers $20.8 billion in the 2021-22 financial year alone.

So he had low wages bill in his budget with a sneaky *. He framed it as efficient, but everyone eventually saw through it. The problem was that the details of the * were hidden for some time.

So Dutton is going to embark on a Trump like DOGE efficiency raid and everyone will cheer. But really the unemployed NDIS clerks will get jobs with KPMG or deloitte and their $150k salaries will get charged to the government for $210k.
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The original post was'nt about Left vs Right. It was about the ridiculous state our workforce is in. No wonder our Productivity sucks. The public sector generates SFA but it grew by over 43% in 10 years.
I don't care who's in power, that sort of f**kwittery is what cruels this country.
 
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Joshuatheeel said:
Why? Normal depreciation rules still apply.

$1000, instant asset right off is pretty good for a tradie. What assets do they need to purchase that is more than that?

I get that some tools may cost more, but surely they have had last few years to take advantage of it. How often are they spending $1000 plus? Additionally they still get to use normal depreciation rules.
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it will probably stop the distortion of buying stuff as business "investments" that didn't actually do much to improve the business productivity
 
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Eelementary said:
I was so keen to get an income tax cut - "responsible" me paid off, and closed my credit card.

Lo, and behold, a thousand different expenses suddenly popped up, and - since we live in Sydney - due to the ridiculous cost of property, and cost of living, I am not being given another card.

Imagine how happy I was to not get any money back from the ATO, but instead, get a bill to pay them $900.
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you could spread that $900 out over 2 years on a payment plan and pay 0% interest
 
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RustedonEel said:
The original post was'nt about Left vs Right. It was about the ridiculous state our workforce is in. No wonder our Productivity sucks. The public sector generates SFA but it grew by over 43% in 10 years.
I don't care who's in power, that sort of f**kwittery is what cruels this country.
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true - aged care workers and nurses looking after elderly people doesn't add much to productivity
 
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RustedonEel said:
Typical left wing reply. Exactly what percentage of these worthless public servants are frontline workers? Bugger all I'd wager. Most sit in their offices shuffling paper from one side to the other and produce nothing.
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whether they are public servants or not - working in the aged care sector is not as "productive" as say working in a steel mill
This sector is one of the fastest growing and government funded (though not directly employed by the government)

also public sector investing in a highway upgrade would be more productive than the private sector buying a new oversized ute
 
RustedonEel

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Australia’s Public Sector Surge​

Written by: Lachlan Clark
10 December 2024

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Public sector jobs make up an increasing share of the total workforce:
  • Between August 2014 and August 2024, the share of the workforce employed in the public sector increased from 12.5 per cent to 17.9 per cent.
The vast majority of new jobs in Australia post-Covid are in the public sector:
  • Between August 2014 and August 2022, 76.5 per cent of new persons employed were in the private sector.
  • Between August 2022 and August 2024, 82.1 per cent of new persons employed were in the public sector.
  • The total number of new public sector jobs created since August 2022 has already outstripped the number created from August 2014 to August 2022 by approximately 40 per cent, with 475,800 public sector jobs created from August 2014 to August 2022, compared with 658,600 created since August 2022.
The surge in public sector jobs has occurred across every state:
  • NSW: From August 2014 to August 2022 only 13.7 per cent of new jobs were in the public sector; since August 2022 all new jobs, on net, were in the public sector, with private sector jobs dropping by 25,000.
  • Victoria: From August 2014 to August 2022 only 19.5 per cent of new jobs were in the public sector; since August 2022 almost 70 per cent of all new jobs, on net, were in the public sector.
  • Queensland: From August 2014 to August 2022 29.3 per cent of new jobs were in the public sector; since August 2022 70 per cent of all new jobs, on net, were in the public sector.
  • South Australia: From August 2014 to August 2022 31.3 per cent of new jobs were in the public sector; since August 2022 72.1 per cent of all new jobs, on net, were in the public sector.
  • Western Australia: From August 2014 to August 2022 40.8 per cent of new jobs were in the public sector; since August 2022 51.1 per cent of all new jobs, on net, were in the public sector. Also, since 2022 Western Australia has been the only jurisdiction to experience a similar number of additional employees across both the private and public sectors.
  • Tasmania: From August 2014 to August 2022, 41.4 per cent of new jobs were in the public sector; since August 2022, all new jobs, on net, were in the public sector, with private sector jobs dropping by 7,000.

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Australia's Public Sector Surge

Between August 2014 and August 2024, the share of the workforce employed in the public sector increased from 12.5 per cent to 17.9 per cent.
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RustedonEel

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bazza said:
whether they are public servants or not - working in the aged care sector is not as "productive" as say working in a steel mill
This sector is one of the fastest growing and government funded (though not directly employed by the government)

also public sector investing in a highway upgrade would be more productive than the private sector buying a new oversized ute
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I have no problem with aged care workers, nurses, police, ambos, firies, etc etc as they are very much in the minority. I DO have a problem with the majority of the "Christmas stocking stuffers" that have been hired since Covid. Canberra is not known as the largest sheltered workshop in the country for nothing.
 
Gronk

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RustedonEel said:

Australia’s Public Sector Surge​

Written by: Lachlan Clark
10 December 2024

Share this post:​


Australia’s Public Sector Surge - Featured image

Download the research paperDownload
Public sector jobs make up an increasing share of the total workforce:
  • Between August 2014 and August 2024, the share of the workforce employed in the public sector increased from 12.5 per cent to 17.9 per cent.
The vast majority of new jobs in Australia post-Covid are in the public sector:
  • Between August 2014 and August 2022, 76.5 per cent of new persons employed were in the private sector.
  • Between August 2022 and August 2024, 82.1 per cent of new persons employed were in the public sector.
  • The total number of new public sector jobs created since August 2022 has already outstripped the number created from August 2014 to August 2022 by approximately 40 per cent, with 475,800 public sector jobs created from August 2014 to August 2022, compared with 658,600 created since August 2022.
The surge in public sector jobs has occurred across every state:
  • NSW: From August 2014 to August 2022 only 13.7 per cent of new jobs were in the public sector; since August 2022 all new jobs, on net, were in the public sector, with private sector jobs dropping by 25,000.
  • Victoria: From August 2014 to August 2022 only 19.5 per cent of new jobs were in the public sector; since August 2022 almost 70 per cent of all new jobs, on net, were in the public sector.
  • Queensland: From August 2014 to August 2022 29.3 per cent of new jobs were in the public sector; since August 2022 70 per cent of all new jobs, on net, were in the public sector.
  • South Australia: From August 2014 to August 2022 31.3 per cent of new jobs were in the public sector; since August 2022 72.1 per cent of all new jobs, on net, were in the public sector.
  • Western Australia: From August 2014 to August 2022 40.8 per cent of new jobs were in the public sector; since August 2022 51.1 per cent of all new jobs, on net, were in the public sector. Also, since 2022 Western Australia has been the only jurisdiction to experience a similar number of additional employees across both the private and public sectors.
  • Tasmania: From August 2014 to August 2022, 41.4 per cent of new jobs were in the public sector; since August 2022, all new jobs, on net, were in the public sector, with private sector jobs dropping by 7,000.
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Bruh that is the IPA. They are literally Australia's version of Project 2025.

They come up with a lot of facts, but are also very good at leaving out many crucial ones.

Dig baby dig. Three cheers for Gina !

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RustedonEel

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Gronk said:
Bruh that is the IPA. They are literally Australia's version of Project 2025.

They come up with a lot of facts, but are also very good at leaving out many crucial ones.

Dig baby dig. Three cheers for Gina !

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Mate, it does'nt matter if it lines up with the Great One's plan :mad: . The simple fact of the matter is we have far too many non-productive public servants in this country. Parties of both persuasions use it as an easy way to fudge the employment and job creation figures whenever they feel the need.

Gina is just a poor little rich girl trying her best to scratch out an existance in this cost of living crisis. All Hail Gina :p
 
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hindy111 said:
Me personally not heaps. But builders and plumbers far more. It isn't just about tradies but small businesses. It could be a cafe purchasing an Oven or coffee machine.
Oh well there's always Starbucks
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It was a temporarily inflated deduction, that always had to come down to normal ($1K) deduction eventually.

Maybe cafes and other small businesses should get used to not extending themselves beyond their means again, and relying on this temporary $19K pa to do so?
 
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RustedonEel said:
Mate, it does'nt matter if it lines up with the Great One's plan :mad: . The simple fact of the matter is we have far too many non-productive public servants in this country. Parties of both persuasions use it as an easy way to fudge the employment and job creation figures whenever they feel the need.

Gina is just a poor little rich girl trying her best to scratch out an existance in this cost of living crisis. All Hail Gina :p
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Its a great way to hide a recession
 
hindy111

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the phantom menace said:
It was a temporarily inflated deduction, that always had to come down to normal ($1K) deduction eventually.

Maybe cafes and other small businesses should get used to not extending themselves beyond their means again, and relying on this temporary $19K pa to do so?
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Enjoy your Starbucks coffee my dear lefty friend. World globalisation all the way.
Oh and burger king is that way -->
 
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