OT: Current Affairs and Politics

[Gary Gutful]

The whole f**king world is staged. Trump is just a distraction for those who are actualy controlling things.
They are working on diseases that will make us allergic to meat and dairy.
Digital only currencies.

Who are the people controlling things if it isn’t Trump?

If you can’t name them then you are talking out of your arse.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Some people are ignorant to how the world is being shaped for them. Most just don;t want to know. Then you have a small subset of people who do know but think that somehow they'll be spared. People with lots of money but no power or influence. Them poor f**kers are in for a rude shock.

What is it that you supposedly know that others don’t?

Why are you so much smarter than everyone else? Give me some facts and reasons rather than ad hominem attacks.

I reckon I have challenged you on this close to 10 times and every time you vanish into thin air.

Put up or shut up. What is that you know that the rest of us don’t understand?

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

You’ve given nothing than other than ‘give him a chance’ and ‘you’re a wokey Mc woke woke’ when someone disagrees.

No teasers at all and don’t pretend otherwise.

My Voice analogy is spot on. You are swaying a certain way and immune to logic and facts even when they are biting you in the arse.

You don’t have to believe anything I say but if you are going to put forward a position on something then be prepared to explain your thinking.

I’m not one sided at all. Have been positive about Trump on many issues, but this is far from his finest moment.

I’m getting treated like shit from Twizzle so I need a break.

 

[Gary Gutful]

I’m getting treated like shit from Twizzle so I need a break.

Just admit that you are an eels supporter and all will be forgiven.

 

[hindy111]

Who are the people controlling things if it isn’t Trump?

If you can’t name them then you are talking out of your arse.

I'd say the wealthiest families living in the country. Mr Bill Gates would have some say also.

 

[Gary Gutful]

I'd say the wealthiest families living in the country. Mr Bill Gates would have some say also.

In what ways are these wealthy people controlling things? I have my theories but I am interested in yours.

 

[JohnStoppafarty]

It’s called capitalism.

It goes far beyond capitalism.

But at the end of the day, I think it’s an era.

An era that is ending. By that I mean who will have access to it.

It’s a tough old beast though.

Was. They've finally realised it's the eventual death of humanity and our planet earth.
(don't take me saying that as being a neo greenie).

If AI puts a lot of people out of work, social conditions may further deteriorate.

It will and they will. Very scary stuff.

I think it’s an only a matter of time before the US disarms its civilians because they pose a threat to the stability of rich and powerful folk.

That will happen. The experiment has already been done. The juxtaposition between "the home of the brave and the land of the free" and the 2nd amendment and what it really means is horrifying.

Like the head of that health insurance fund who was ruthlessly gunned do

Good to hear.

i didn’t add a question mark!

He’s got to give a bit, I don’t think he’s got any other realistic choice.

it’s not the end of the world except for those facing death atm. Soldiers and civilians. Most of them poor anyway.
Not many wealthy people fight in combat.

It aint me, I aint no senator's sooon noo.

That’s a Marxist argument anyway.

You have a lot to learn grasshopper. The Marxist movement was initially funded by Wallstreet.

Why die for a patch of land that others will exploit to increase their wealth?

Because it's YOUR land.

What does Jo or Joelene soldier get out of the deal?

The same thing our forebears who fought anywhere from WW1 till now got out of their deal. Promises, lies, guilt, shame, horrendous mental damage, a false narrative, and all the rest of it.
Those soldiers are turning in their graves.
My heart bleeds for their futile sacrifice while most of the rest of the world allows what they fought against to happen. The same people who go down to Martin Place on Anzac Day and drip their filthy crocodile tears all over the joint.
They keep Grand Pops medals real shiny too. Some of them even have the ordacity to wear them. I feel sick.

 

[the phantom menace]

It doesn't happen overnight. It's a gradual process so you won't notice.

In whose interest is it to make people allergic to eating meat and dairy - some all powerful vegetarian syndicate new world order?

Do you think the cost of living was an accident and kinda just happened? It is all about control. Money buys freedom which gives you time to think.

It's just capitalism, money buys power, cost of living hits the less wealthy harder. Karl Marx wrote about how this all works over 150 years ago. It's not a "they" secretly and suddenly taking over the world, that only people who watch certain youtubers can detect...

 

[hindy111]

In what ways are these wealthy people controlling things? I have my theories but I am interested in yours.

They control all the information and media. They shape societies with the seeds they put in our minds as little kids.
Pushing these expensive lifestyles that keep people always wanting and broke which means we are completely under control. People become to exhausted to think and are constantly in survival mode.
And this creates another industry, depression,addiction etc. People are getting fleeced and it was never an accident. It is a well thought out plan.

I have to get to work. I will share my buisness idea later

 

[Twizzle]

Why don’t you try to be positive towards me for a change?

Or just tell me to f**k off out of here.

why would I do that just because you are expressing an opinion?

I dont hate you, or anyone else, just because I dont agree with them

 

[Twizzle]

I’m getting treated like shit from Twizzle so I need a break.

oh ffs, we disagreed

sack up and defend your opinion

 

[Gronk]

Nothing to see here. They're just draining the swamp.

Israeli government official charged with soliciting 15-year-old girl in Las Vegas

Police say Tom Artiom Alexandrovich brought condom and thought he was meeting teenager for ‘sexual contact’

www.theguardian.com

How was an alleged Israeli ‘child sex predator’ allowed to leave the US?

Release of senior Israeli official facing serious child sex charges in Nevada stirs controversy and raises questions.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[Gary Gutful]

I will share my buisness idea later

If it’s good I’ll give you some seed funding.

 

[JohnStoppafarty]

What is it that you supposedly know that others don’t?

Loaded and disingenuous

Why are you so much smarter than everyone else? Give me some facts and reasons rather than ad hominem attacks.

I've told you before I left school midway yr 10. I don't think I'm smarter than everyone else.

I reckon I have challenged you on this close to 10 times and every time you vanish into thin air.

Like this time I vanished after a hail of ad hominem attack?

What are you doing to prevent it?

I try to educate the people around me about it by getting them to watch videos like this one

SDIS 2021 - The 15-Minute City - English | World Economic Forum

I ask them to listen closely to what is being said with a skeptical ear as you should always do with these leeches. They even imply that once your in a 15 min city there should be no need to ever leave it.
I implore the people that I know to stop calling people who search out this information, straight from the source , "conspiracy theorists" or "cookers". Leave those terms for flat earthers and other such dopes.
Most people don't want to know and those that do are easily and often put off when presented with sources like Alex Jones or anyone like him because there is so much other bullshit that comes along with the information that they provide.
The sad reality of the "Truther Movement" as I prefer to call it, is that it is easily derailed by lunatics and easily infiltrated by very smart people who make up the craziest shit they can think of and post it online for the sole purpose of discrediting this Truther Movement.

It's almost futile trying to get people interested. People don't want to know that the world is much more sinister than the way they view it to be. They can't handle it and would rather impersonate an ostrich than give it 30 seconds of thought.

This futility unfortunately leads to contempt to the point that us Truthers start interacting with people the way I did here last night (not helpful either) and around and around we go. While those f**kers laugh and say " Look, zie plan is vorking ".

Is that the main issue you have with this 15 min city stuff? That people will become prisoners in the own village and things like climate change will be used as reason to control people and make it difficult for them to leave? Or is it more than that?

I watched the video with a critical eye and think I have a pretty good understanding of the "truther movement" (as you call it), but I think there are some truths that said movement are ignoring.

I feel like a '15-min city' is a different label for something that has been happening for decades in city planning. The idea of having services (parks, shops, transport, hospitals etc) closely located to several population centres within a larger urban metropolis isn't new. As a city grows and more houses are built it is critical that these important services are incorporated into new developments. There are past examples of where that hasn't occurred and it is a recipe for very poor social outcomes.

I also think that as a result of COVID-19 it is critical to rethink how we plan, design and adaptively manage our cities. Putting aside any comments about whether it was real or the lockdowns were warranted I think its clear that the majority of people like having the ability to work from home. If there are more people at home for longer periods, then you are forced to look at the provision of new and improved services in existing suburbs and reconsider the notion of a 'CBD'.

It's certainly an issue I have with it. Will they (WEF and all the other members of the same gang) ever achieve it? Who knows? I do believe that is how they'd like it to be though.

The idea of the 15 min city is 15 mins by foot or bike. I.E. you will be forbidden from driving or even owning a car. If that happens, where you are able to go will be controlled by some "Authority Figure". If they don't want you to leave, you will be denied access to the only means of doing so. Who cares if the hospital is 15 or 20 mins away. By car. Big deal.

You want to talk about poor social outcomes? Plenty of poor social outcomes already exist in places where all the things you list are within a 15 min walk or bike ride. Having the amenities you describe does not fix poor social outcomes.

Why would I put aside comments about whether it was real or if the lockdowns were warranted when I am of the opinion that it was all deliberately done to expediate the goals and objectives of the Globalist One World Order being dreamed up and slowly implemented by someone who makes the worst Bond villain look like a f**king kindergarten kid?

These f**ks would like to chip your brain and permanently connect you to a network FFS!
Don't make me find the vid of Uncle Klaus saying so please because I'm sure I could only source that from somewhere I'd rather not but here is some nice literature about it , direct from our old mates at the WEF.

computer chip for brain – Search results | World Economic Forum

Why is that?


I think there is a difference between wanting to reduce the number of cars in a city and forbidding people from using or owning them. There are pretty powerful road and automobile lobby groups with vested interests in keeping cars on roads and significant ongoing investment in road infrastructure. They are the reason that we moved away from 15 minute cities decades ago and will be reluctant to concede much.

Has anyone important actually said that cars will be forbidden or is that just a prediction?

Edit: Just saw Strider say that Schwab said it. Schwab is a knob.


Thats an argument in the margins. If you were to take all of the places that had access to parks, hospitals, shops, transport etc and compared them to all the places that didn't who would have the better overall social outcomes? The people with or the people without?


Because if you did, you might have acknowledged that many people are happy with the idea of spending more time at home. That was the point I was trying to make.


I worry about the rapid advancement of technology, in particular AI.

So, in closing - all I was trying to do was to highlight a few reasons why there might be some merit in some of the concepts underpinning the 15-min city concept along with some drivers that require past aspects of city planning to be reconsidered. Thats all.

Having said that, I know that governments can be influenced by powerful figures and the level and control adopted during COVID with lockdowns etc was confronting to many.

Strider made the point that one man's 'conspiracy theory' can quickly become their reality and I think thats true (to a degree).

You could learn from Stoppa. At least he can argue his case sensibly.

Hahaha.

Put up or shut up. What is that you know that the rest of us don’t understand?

I don't owe you a window into what I know or how I think. Especially after confirming that you make up shit. Most of it would require a source that I can no longer find on the net.
Have a nice day Gary.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Loaded and disingenuous

I've told you before I left school midway yr 10. I don't think I'm smarter than everyone else.

Like this time I vanished after a hail of ad hominem attack?












Hahaha.


I don't owe you a window into what I know or how I think. Especially after confirming that you make up shit. Most of it would require a source that I can no longer find on the net.
Have a nice day Gary.

All that showed was that you used to discuss in good faith and not project a “there are big ooga boogas that you don’t understand and I can’t be f**ked explaining them” vibe. It has become rather tiresome and predictable.

It also showed that I was spot on with my 15 min city analysis.

 

[JohnStoppafarty]

All that showed was that you used to discuss in good faith and not project a “there are big ooga boogas that you don’t understand and I can’t be f**ked explaining them” vibe. It has become rather tiresome and predictable.

You lost the right to good faith when you called me Norman Bates while I was obviously emotional about my recently (at the time) departed Mum.
Just because I won't discuss the ooga booga with you doesn't mean I don't understand it.
Tiresome and predictable? Hi pot, meet kettle.

It also showed that I was spot on with my 15 min city analysis.

Your 15 min city analysis is your opinion only. I backed my opinion with talking points from the WEF own website. There you go. One of the ooga boogas.

I know I said a few weeks ago that I would happily get into this deeper with you but after some thought, I decided that
a)You don't deserve the time it would take me to do so.
b)Writing it all on here serves no benefit to me whatsoever and could in fact at a point in the future, if a social credit system (another ooga booga) is ever in place in this country, (if it's not already) be quite detrimental to me.
I could have had the courtesy to explain this to you earlier, I agree, but then I thought, f**k You Gary.
Sooo, f**k You Gary.

 

[Glenneel]

Defamation is making something up about someone but what Trump does no one even thinks of doing. By using the presidency to enrich yourself by billions (yes billions not millions) and to turning USA into a republican dictatorship, these are things no one has even thought of before.

 

[Avenger]

Defamation is making something up about someone but what Trump does no one even thinks of doing. By using the presidency to enrich yourself by billions (yes billions not millions) and to turning USA into a republican dictatorship, these are things no one has even thought of before.

Did the Clinton’s enrich themselves?

 

[Capefish]

Did the Clinton’s enrich themselves?

Did I accidentally click on Facebook comments or am I on a rugby league forum?

 

[Soren Lorenson]

Did I accidentally click on Facebook comments or am I on a rugby league forum?

Keep up brah. If a discussion about Newcastle’s hooker stocks doesn’t lead directly to comments about corruption in the US political system then we aren’t doing this right.