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[the phantom menace]

Its all ok ... Albo the Great has supported his besties Don & Bibi.

#inAlboWeTrust

It's enough to make us all turn and vote Green, isn't it...

 

[the phantom menace]

Hopefully it will be a quick conflict now with the Ayatollah sadly gone. There needs to be religious tolerance in Iran in my opinion and this could happen quickly now.

Or maybe not, according to Trump...

He vowed that even with Khamenei’s death the heavy bombing will continue, uninterrupted, throughout the week or “as long as necessary” to achieve peace in the Middle East.

So regime change in Iran wasn't his primary objective after all...?

US-Iran war as it happened: Trump orders Iran to back down in fiery post; nine killed as hundreds storm US consulate

The US has joined Israel in launching a daylight attack on Iran’s capital, with a cloud of smoke rising from the city’s downtown. Follow our rolling coverage.

www.smh.com.au

 

[JohnStoppafarty]

It's enough to make us all turn and vote Green, isn't it...

Who says you'll get to vote on it?

 

[T-Boon]

Or maybe not, according to Trump...

He vowed that even with Khamenei’s death the heavy bombing will continue, uninterrupted, throughout the week or “as long as necessary” to achieve peace in the Middle East.

So regime change in Iran wasn't his primary objective after all...?

US-Iran war as it happened: Trump orders Iran to back down in fiery post; nine killed as hundreds storm US consulate

The US has joined Israel in launching a daylight attack on Iran’s capital, with a cloud of smoke rising from the city’s downtown. Follow our rolling coverage.

www.smh.com.au

It is going to be very interesting because from what little I understand about the Khamenei situation is I do think he ruled personally with an iron fist - he wasn't some figure head. Of course the regime is the Islamic republic or whatever it is called that is very oppressive and disgusting.
I think the Iranian people will now rise up even though the 2IC Ayatollah will slot in. I think it is a case of more bad times short term but ultimately good times ahead for the Iranian people who just probably want to live happy lives.
They need someone who can "get over it" in relation to Israel and also be nice to women and Kurdish people and minorities. They need a situation in which Iranians get a much bigger say in who is in charge of the country - I think that is what they want after 30 years of oppression in that respect.

 

[the phantom menace]

Who says you'll get to vote on it?

Just the next election, generally... not the issue specifically.

Given that the Greens are the only party who are opposing the non-UN sanctioned actions of the current US and Israeli governments..

 

[T-Boon]

It is great that the people of Israel get to vote soon (this year) on who they want to be in charge of their country. They get to vote the Net out if they want to!!
I don't think it matters what religion or gender you are either. I think Muslims in Israel get to vote.

 

[the phantom menace]

I was happy to see the Jewish pride float in Mardi Gras last night too... I do wonder how happy and accepting Natanyahu and his far right friends in the current Israeli government would have been though.

 

[T-Boon]

Well the Net allows gays in his country to exist and actually be proud and vote and the like. He even allows Muslims in his country to be gay. It may be the only place in the middle east were Muslims are allowed to be gay. Net is good to Muslims in comparison to the Islamic leaders in the middle east.

 

[Twizzle]

 

[the phantom menace]

And the tit for tat across borders begins.

 

[the phantom menace]

Trump vies for Bush’s crown for worst foreign policy decision in history

The US president upended half a century of US foreign policy in an eight-minute video with another attempt at Middle Eastern regime change

www.theguardian.com

Trump vies for Bush’s crown for worst foreign policy decision in history​

The US president upended half a century of US foreign policy in an eight-minute video with another attempt at Middle Eastern regime change

It was another date that would live in infamy. But whereas Franklin Roosevelt declared war in sombre tones to a joint session of Congress, Donald Trump did it his way.

The US president wore a white “USA” cap, dark jacket and white shirt open at the collar. He stood at a blue lectern bearing the US presidential seal and a black microphone, with the Stars and Stripes behind him, presumably at his Mar-a-Lago residence in Florida. He released a video on his own social media network, Truth Social, at 2.30am on Saturday – a time when most Americans are asleep but Trump is often found rage-tweeting into the night.

In the space of eight minutes, Trump proceeded to upend half a century of US foreign policy, renege on his campaign promise to avoid the risk of forever wars and leave the Fifa boss, Gianni Infantino, with some explaining to do about why he gave Trump a made-up peace prize.

“There is also a beautiful medal for you that you can wear everywhere you want to go,” the oleaginous Infantino told Trump last December. Trump was not wearing that medal on Saturday. Instead, he delivered a performance that would have had soccer fans chanting: “Are you George Bush in disguise?”

Bush dragged the US into a tragic war in Iraq in 2003 that costs hundreds of thousands of lives and trillions of dollars and was recently crowned by the Council on Foreign Relations thinktank as the worst foreign policy decision in history. The avaricious Trump seems determined to seize that title for himself with another act of Middle Eastern regime change.

At least Bush tried to make a case to justify his invasion – mendacious as it was – and tried to convince the UN of its merits. Trump did not even bother. He amassed a huge “armada” in the Middle East with little explanation to Congress or the public. He did not mention Iran until more than an hour into this week’s State of the Union address.

Finally, when the bombs were already falling, he tried to offer a rationale in his social media video.

[Article continues via link]

 

[T-Boon]

Trump vies for Bush’s crown for worst foreign policy decision in history

The US president upended half a century of US foreign policy in an eight-minute video with another attempt at Middle Eastern regime change

www.theguardian.com

Trump vies for Bush’s crown for worst foreign policy decision in history​

The US president upended half a century of US foreign policy in an eight-minute video with another attempt at Middle Eastern regime change

It was another date that would live in infamy. But whereas Franklin Roosevelt declared war in sombre tones to a joint session of Congress, Donald Trump did it his way.

The US president wore a white “USA” cap, dark jacket and white shirt open at the collar. He stood at a blue lectern bearing the US presidential seal and a black microphone, with the Stars and Stripes behind him, presumably at his Mar-a-Lago residence in Florida. He released a video on his own social media network, Truth Social, at 2.30am on Saturday – a time when most Americans are asleep but Trump is often found rage-tweeting into the night.

In the space of eight minutes, Trump proceeded to upend half a century of US foreign policy, renege on his campaign promise to avoid the risk of forever wars and leave the Fifa boss, Gianni Infantino, with some explaining to do about why he gave Trump a made-up peace prize.

“There is also a beautiful medal for you that you can wear everywhere you want to go,” the oleaginous Infantino told Trump last December. Trump was not wearing that medal on Saturday. Instead, he delivered a performance that would have had soccer fans chanting: “Are you George Bush in disguise?”

Bush dragged the US into a tragic war in Iraq in 2003 that costs hundreds of thousands of lives and trillions of dollars and was recently crowned by the Council on Foreign Relations thinktank as the worst foreign policy decision in history. The avaricious Trump seems determined to seize that title for himself with another act of Middle Eastern regime change.

At least Bush tried to make a case to justify his invasion – mendacious as it was – and tried to convince the UN of its merits. Trump did not even bother. He amassed a huge “armada” in the Middle East with little explanation to Congress or the public. He did not mention Iran until more than an hour into this week’s State of the Union address.

Finally, when the bombs were already falling, he tried to offer a rationale in his social media video.

[Article continues via link]

Very balanced.

 

[the phantom menace]

Very balanced.

Someone's got to be - the orange f**ker runs his own social media network!

 

[Gronk]

So if this ends quickly and succeeds, are people going to praise Trump since the Iranian people have been begging for the regime change since 1979 or should the people continue to live under an oppressive regime?

Donald "what's in it for me" Trump doesn't do anything to help anyone. He more than any previous USA president unseats governments and unserts their puppets for their own political gain.

They didn't go into Venezuela to do the right thing, they did it to steal their oil.

Now Iran, they are not freeing a population from a regime, they are assisting Israel who obviously run the show.

Anyway, "peace" in the middle east seems to be when Israel can do whatever they like and the surrounding countries STFU. Yay.

 

[T-Boon]

Donald "what's in it for me" Trump doesn't do anything to help anyone. He more than any previous USA president unseats governments and unserts their puppets for their own political gain.

They didn't go into Venezuela to do the right thing, they did it to steal their oil.

Now Iran, they are not freeing a population from a regime, they are assisting Israel who obviously run the show.

Anyway, "peace" in the middle east seems to be when Israel can do whatever they like and the surrounding countries STFU. Yay.

the truth is always the opposite of Gronks opinion FYI.

 

[Suitman]

the truth is always the opposite of Gronks opinion FYI.

No it's not.

 

[T-Boon]

Donald "what's in it for me" Trump doesn't do anything to help anyone. He more than any previous USA president unseats governments and unserts their puppets for their own political gain.

He likes a win/win scenario.

They didn't go into Venezuela to do the right thing, they did it to steal their oil.

It was doing the right thing though.

Now Iran, they are not freeing a population from a regime,

Yes they are.

they are assisting Israel

That is a good thing.

who obviously run the show.

No, the illuminati run the show

Anyway, "peace" in the middle east seems to be when Israel can do whatever they like and the surrounding countries STFU. Yay.

You have lost it.

 

[T-Boon]

Apparently Justin Hemmes owns something like 100 properties. A complete parasite.

 

[Gronk]

No, the illuminati run the show

Well that’s a conspiracy theory to top all conspiracy theories.

The biggest problem with the idea that the so called illuminattti run the show is that the Bavaraian
Illuminati rules were that they did not accept Jews or church-going Catholics. This was among the very first rules of the order.

If you google what the Illuminattti were all about...."They aimed to influence institutions and promote rationalism over religious authority."

So if they existed and called the shots, they certainly would not have put up with Israel's passive aggressive merkin/victim bullshit.

You have lost it.

I'm not the one hiding under my bed from a secret cabal.

 

[Suitman]

Apparently Justin Hemmes owns something like 100 properties. A complete parasite.

Why does that make him a parasite?
Because you don't?