What's new
The Front Row Forums

Register a free account today to become a member of the world's largest Rugby League discussion forum! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

OT: Current Affairs and Politics

King-Gutho94

Referee
Messages
20,231
Should the Iranian people be free from the Iranian Regime? If yes, how?
We see Iranians celebrating this, I got an Iranian mate here who finally says he sees some hope on the horizon.
Of course they should

I went to school with one Aussie born to Iranian parents i have known and still close with for 20 years and another one who moved here when he was 15.

They have family back in Iran and they are happy as larry both ain't political people but the last 2 months they have been calling for change and now as you say see hope for there homeland and realtives back in Iran.

Its ironic yet again the ones whinging the loudest about this on socials are the usual pathetic left wing virtue-signallers who most don't give two shits for Iran. They are just obsessed with whinging and getting there poms poms out again.

I bet you wont see a vile like palenstine type protest from the Iranians in the CBD today whinging about whats gone on.
 

hindy111

Post Whore
Messages
67,715
What I dont get is people carrying in if America take oil.
A military operation of this scale is expensive. Why should the American people fund it? I have no real issue with USA taking the equal value in payback in black gold + 25% Thats just basic business.
 

Gronk

Moderator
Staff member
Messages
80,838
Its ironic yet again the ones whinging the loudest about this on socials are the usual pathetic left wing virtue-signallers who most don't give two shits for Iran. They are just obsessed with whinging and getting there poms poms out again.

I bet you wont see a vile like palenstine type protest from the Iranians in the CBD today whinging about whats gone on.
I know you run on low information, but since the 12 day war with Israel (the one where they bombed the "could be ready any day nuclear bombs), the sanctions were tightened, designed to squeezed the life out of the marketplace.



Not long after ^^ that the cracks started to emerge on the ground.



What is truly devastating is the disregard that people have for the Iranian people, 12-20,000 people were killed and merkins KNEW this would happen.

I really don't understand your bolded bit. The vile people you speak of are trying to stop their children being killed. Meanwhile, there are now Iranian children dying .

 

King-Gutho94

Referee
Messages
20,231

hineyrulz

Post Whore
Messages
159,540
You're a lightweight because you don't do anything other than randomly pop in and swear like a shopping centre eshay about nothing really in particular. If you have nothing to contribute, I suggest that you get a few more off your chest and then f**k off back to where you came from.
Ooooooh Eshay!!

Another cool word you learnt off Insta or Tik Tok while creeping on young girls.

I stay out of politics thread because I have to read your fake plastic look at me virtue signalling BS.

You don’t have one original thought in your head, just listen to what may seem cool and hip.

You live in your little Eastern Suburbs bubble and don’t know or care what is really going on in the world. But I’ll post a few empty placards on social media a few memes might even get a couple of likes from a few arts majors. Give some chump change to charity and think you are this great enlightened person.

News flash!! You’re not, just a fake plastic deadshit who has no idea at how unlikeable he really is.
 

Gronk

Moderator
Staff member
Messages
80,838
For those who are cheering on the freeing of the poor Iranian people. You might need to call this bloke. Because he's dead and Bibi has no intention of stopping.

 

Bandwagon

Super Moderator
Staff member
Messages
50,331
I have already said in a previous post that the Ayatollah was a merkin.

However has the USA not learned from IRAQ, etc that going in without a plan, killing the boss and wishing the 92,000,000 Iranians the best will only lead to civil war ? Or with Afghanistan, in 2026 the Taliban are again the governing authority, heroin production remains entrenched al‑Qaeda–linked actors still find space to operate and they treat women like goats. With IRAQ, it caused so much unrest and a black hole of power that it assisted in the rise of ISIS. Those pricks are STILL about.

So we can talk about the silver lining version of this war, but history suggests that it will not end well. Hey, maybe a civil war in Iran suits Israel just fine right now.

Yep.

Please name a country in the Middle East where US military action has left them better off.

The only one I can think of is Bahrain, stopping Saddam in Gulf War PT1.

The same old tropes were used to beat down opposition to Gulf War PT2, invading Iraq, WMD's were the reason they went in, and they no longer existed. Then it was all about Saddam, I mean yeah there weren't no nukes, but hey Saddam's a bad guy and we f**ked him up, so you know, what are ya, a Saddam lover or something?

20 plus years later, over a million dead, and it's still a shit fight, Iraqi's for the most part are worse off.

I think people in the west overestimate the nature of the resistance to the regime in Iran, whilst folks are dancing in the streets, other folks are mourning the losses, this is not gonna be some fairy tale of bringing democracy to the long suffering people, and if I had to guess, I'd bet it has f**k all to do with it.

It's about destabilising the country, weakening it so as it no longer poses a real threat, the only saving grace I believe is that Trump will not put boots on the ground, unless there is some form of unconditioal surrender by the Iranians.

So most likely it will end in a very bloody civil war, or the status quo remains, just with Iran very much weakened from a military perspective.
 

Bandwagon

Super Moderator
Staff member
Messages
50,331
What I dont get is people carrying in if America take oil.
A military operation of this scale is expensive. Why should the American people fund it? I have no real issue with USA taking the equal value in payback in black gold + 25% Thats just basic business.

Because the US stealing the Iranian peoples oil is what led us here in the first place.
 

hindy111

Post Whore
Messages
67,715
Because the US stealing the Iranian peoples oil is what led us here in the first place.

Yeah America likes the OIL. They want the $$$ and im sure will benefit from this financially.
Of course freeing the Iranian people is a good story and also a great reason to go in and get that oil. That's purely business. Just like in Venezuela. But it doesnt necessarily make it bad for the general civilians living there does it?
Lets just see how the cookie crumbles before we go off half cooked. Albo and Wong are supporting the attacks and they are hardly war mongers
 

hindy111

Post Whore
Messages
67,715
You're a lightweight because you don't do anything other than randomly pop in and swear like a shopping centre eshay about nothing really in particular. If you have nothing to contribute, I suggest that you get a few more off your chest and then f**k off back to where you came from.

Out of curiosity what the hell is an eshay. Is this a new word?
It wasn't part of my extensive vocabulary.
 

JokerEel

Referee
Messages
20,192
Yeah America likes the OIL. They want the $$$ and im sure will benefit from this financially.
Of course freeing the Iranian people is a good story and also a great reason to go in and get that oil. That's purely business. Just like in Venezuela. But it doesnt necessarily make it bad for the general civilians living there does it?
Lets just see how the cookie crumbles before we go off half cooked. Albo and Wong are supporting the attacks and they are hardly war mongers


US sells a million barrels of Iranian oil seized under sanctions | Fossil Fuels News | Al Jazeera https://share.google/hqpsEfYq42AkK9wsZ

"Raimondi said the department still needs the US District Court in Washington, DC to enter an order of forfeiture “and then the funds will be transferred to the US Victims of State Sponsored Terrorism Fund”
 

JokerEel

Referee
Messages
20,192

Albo accused of 'undermining global security'

Natalie Brown
The Jewish Council of Australia has urged the Albanese Government to reconsider its “deeply concerning” endorsement of America’s strikes on Iran, as federal politicians dodged questions this morning over the legality of US military action.

In a statement on Instagram, the organisation said it “stands in solidarity with all people caught in the current military assault on Iran”.

“Civilian lives, including children, have already been lost, and the escalation risks broader regional conflict,” it read.


So the Jewish Council of Aus doesn't agree with Albo endorsement of the USA..
 

85 Baby

Bench
Messages
2,873
Yeah America likes the OIL. They want the $$$ and im sure will benefit from this financially.
Of course freeing the Iranian people is a good story and also a great reason to go in and get that oil. That's purely business. Just like in Venezuela. But it doesnt necessarily make it bad for the general civilians living there does it?
Lets just see how the cookie crumbles before we go off half cooked. Albo and Wong are supporting the attacks and they are hardly war mongers
I’m sure the civilians of Tehran are loving it
 

85 Baby

Bench
Messages
2,873

Albo accused of 'undermining global security'

Natalie Brown
The Jewish Council of Australia has urged the Albanese Government to reconsider its “deeply concerning” endorsement of America’s strikes on Iran, as federal politicians dodged questions this morning over the legality of US military action.

In a statement on Instagram, the organisation said it “stands in solidarity with all people caught in the current military assault on Iran”.

“Civilian lives, including children, have already been lost, and the escalation risks broader regional conflict,” it read.


So the Jewish Council of Aus doesn't agree with Albo endorsement of the USA..
This is very much big brother has thrown his weight around so we’ve just agreed with whatever he’s done. But very obviously anyone can just change Iran to Ukraine and call US Russia.
At what point do we start calling this current period WW3?
 

T-Boon

Coach
Messages
19,193
Iran contributed to the instability of post-Saddam Iraq by exploiting the 2003 power vacuum to exert influence through pro-Iranian political factions and armed proxy militias. Iran armed and trained groups like the Badr Corps, Kata'ib Hezbollah, and Asa'ib Ahl al-Haq, which engaged in sectarian violence and targeted US forces.

Key Aspects of Iran's Impact on Iraq's Stability:
  • Proxy Warfare and Militias: Iran utilized Shia militias to fight both coalition forces and rival Iraqi factions, exacerbating sectarian tensions and undermining the central Iraqi government's monopoly on violence.
  • Political Interference: Tehran cultivated deep ties within Iraq's political class, ensuring a weak, compliant government that would not threaten Iranian interests.
  • Security Destabilization: Since 2003, Iranian-backed militias have been responsible for ongoing security crises, including targeting U.S. bases in the west and north of the country.
  • Economic Leverage: Iran has exploited Iraq’s economic instability to increase its leverage, sometimes using its influence over resources like electricity for political purposes.
  • Strategic Depth: Iran's primary goal was to prevent the re-emergence of a strong Iraq, ensure a friendly government, and maintain a land route to allies in Syria and Lebanon.

    While Iran also supported Iraqi forces in fighting ISIL, its overall strategy of fostering a large network of non-state armed groups has been a major source of instability and a driver of discontent, leading to widespread protests in Iraq against Iranian influence.
 
Top