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T-Boon

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"This shameful law intensifies the persecution of women and girls for daring to stand up for their rights following the ‘Woman Life Freedom’ uprising"

Diana Eltahawy, MENA Deputy Regional Director
Now that the oppression is ending the powers that be should make the Muftis over there wear women's clothing or Manly jerseys or something.
 
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T-Boon

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Anyone can do that.

Woke right go silent on Indonesia.

Haha this is funny. Are you trying to unshackle from the word woke now it has turned sour?
 

Gronk

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Haha this is funny. Are you trying to unshackle from the word woke now it has turned sour?
No, just pointing out performative feminism and ideological filtering. I see people supporting women only when they reinforce one’s worldview.

It's the identify politics driven moral inconsistencies that I see as most transparent with you lot.

OK great - you guys are now world advocates for women ? I am watching.
 
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Isn't that normal for people his age ? Like when he wears nappies, people see that as some kind of criticism, yet they will be doing the same thing at his age.

I'm not defending him, but that type of criticism is pretty shallow for mine.

It's the f**kwits that voted him in that deserve that type of criticism.
Well it's not "that type" of criticism of him as such... and in my experience I'm not sure it's normal for all people of his age (79).

But if it was normal, then the criticism would be that he's trying to do one of the biggest jobs in the world at a time when he perhaps shouldn't be. And it was a criticism Trump himself used against Biden, to suit his own narrative.

Agree there's a lot of f**kwits that supported and voted for him that deserve blame also.
 

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Oh wait




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Israeli media outlets have described him (Mojtaba Khamenei) as holding more hard-line views than his father and have linked him to the state’s harsh response to protests inside Iran.
 
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I just hope that the world standing idly by and by extension of doing nothing, enabling Trump and Netemyahoo to completely disregard international law, doesn't embolden
anyone else to start doing the same thing around the world.
Regardless of where you stand politically or what innocent civilian's lives are acceptable to you for collateral damage. this should be called out as unacceptable.
 
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Good article by Geoffrey Robinson today, about that very issue.


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Iran’s regime is vile, but what Trump and Netanyahu have done is a war crime​

March 3, 2026 — 7:30pm​

Geoffrey Robertson, Human rights barrister and author​

In a lawless world, it may seem idle to judge the conduct of leaders like Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu by international rules to which they are indifferent. But those who use their power to invade other countries commit what the judgement at Nuremberg described as the supreme war crime — that of aggression — because they bear responsibility for all the death and dismemberment that war inevitably entails, for civilians as well as soldiers.

Leaders are entitled to invade only in self-defence — the excuse proffered by the United States and Israel in Monday’s Security Council debate — or with the approval of that Council (which it withheld) or else, as in the case of Kosovo, without such approval where the right of humanitarian intervention arises.

Trump is not a humanitarian, and neither aggressor has sought to defend itself on this ground. But might it have been open to some more respectable “coalition of the willing” to do so?

It is necessary first to dispose of the pretence of “pre-emptive self-defence”, that perversion of international law invented by the Bush administration to justify its attack on Saddam Hussein’s Iraq in 2003 and used by Vladimir Putin to justify his invasion of Ukraine. It was used by both Israel and the US in defence of their attack on Iran.

But it is not part of international law, whereby, on long-standing authority, self-defence can only be used against a threat that is imminent, or at least reasonably likely. With many of its military leaders and nuclear scientists dead, and its facilities at Fordow bombed, Iran posed no immediate threat to Israel, much less America.

The full-blooded attack on Saturday, together with the targeted assassination of Iran’s supreme leader, was a war crime that could have no justification in self-defence. It came just weeks after the Islamic Republic had, under secrecy imposed by an internet blackout, murdered at least 15,000 (probably twice as many) of its own peacefully protesting citizens and mutilated many others by shooting them in the eye. This appallingly cruel state response was ordered by Ali Larijani, the head of the National Security Council. It was approved by the late supreme leader and incited by the chief justice.

It came after government newspapers had demanded a return to “the spirit of 1988”, when Iran commissioned the worst crime against humanity since the Nazis by murdering thousands of political prisoners. This atrocity was covered by lies to the UN and by the prohibition of mourning at the mass graves where victims throughout the country were buried.

I happened to conduct the first inquiry into those events at the behest of the Abdorrahman Boroumand Centre for Human Rights in Iran, interviewing survivors and prison witnesses who reported how thousands of inmates were hanged without trial — six at a time — from gallows erected in Evin Prison and other jails. I assessed the crime as the worst commissioned against prisoners since the death marches at the end of the war against Japan.

My findings were endorsed by inquiries by Amnesty International and, last year, by the UN’s Special Rapporteur on Iran. Many of the perpetrators were promoted and are still alive. The late supreme leader was president at the time, and one notorious tribunal judge, Ebrahim Raisi, became president before he was killed in a helicopter accident on May 19, 2024.

Most of the murders and tortures would be available for prosecution by a new government of Iran. And that, of course, is the problem Trump overlooked in his naive demand that the Iranian people “take back their country”. They do not have the power or the firepower to do this — all guns are in the hands of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard, who are unlikely to relinquish them.

There is no organised opposition. Reza Pahlavi, the exiled son of Iran’s last shah, is an absurd candidate to lead them, as his father was an infamous torturer through SAVAK, his secret police force. Maryam Rajavi, who heads the National Council of Resistance, is a favourite of the Iranian diaspora, but her local support is untested. So what happens next, after four weeks in which Trump promises to blast and bomb this vile theocracy?

The UN is responsible for allowing Iran to get away with the mass murder of its own people, and this would be a good time for it to act under Chapter VII of its own charter and set up an international court to investigate and indict government officials who carried out the prison massacres of 1988, as well as those who ordered the killing of peaceful protesters in the past two months. There can be no peace without justice, whatever happens to any future government.

Otherwise, no good can come of this war, as death and destruction descend from the skies — the first victims being 175 people, predominantly children, whose school was unaccountably bombed in its opening hours.

Trump, at least, can never now receive the Nobel Peace Prize which his vainglorious presidency so desires. He cannot expect to lead America’s allies — including Australia. If America itself cannot stop him, and since the war has no consent from Congress it therefore breaches the Constitution, it is time to work towards a new rules-based order that excludes a UN Security Council veto, currently abused by Russia, the US and China (which may shortly invade Taiwan).

These warmongering powers should have no say over a set of rules that should instead reflect the values of decent democracies.

Geoffrey Robertson AO KC is a former war crimes judge and the author of Mullahs Without Mercy and the recently published World of War Crimes (Penguin Random House).
 

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