Poupou Escobar
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This is a bit of a repost from a thread in the NRL forum:
Finals Week 1:
'97 - lost first week of finals to eventual Premiers Newcastle
'98 - won in first week of finals against North Sydney
'99 - won in first week of finals against Newcastle
'00 - won in first week of finals against eventual runners-up the Roosters
'01 - won in first week of finals against the Warriors
'02 - lost in first week of finals against Brisbane
'03 - didn't make finals
'04 - didn't make finals
'05 - won in first week of finals against Manly
'06 - lost in first week of finals against eventual runners-up Melbourne
That's 5 from 8 for a winning percentage of 63%
Finals Week 2:
In the past ten years we have played only 3 times (we also had 3 BYES) in the second week of the finals for 2 wins and a loss (that's 67%):
'97 - lost to Norths
'98 - won against eventual Premiers Brisbane
'99 - BYE
'00 - won against Penrith
'01 - BYE
'02 - didn't make second week
'03 - didn't make finals
'04 - didn't make finals
'05 - BYE
'06 - didn't make second week
As you can see, we haven't played in the second week of the finals for nearly 7 years, but when we do we have a great record.
Finals Week 3:
'97 - didn't make preliminary final
'98 - lost to eventual runners-up Canterbury
'99 - lost to eventual Premiers Melbourne
'00 - lost to eventual Premiers Brisbane
'01 - won against Brisbane
'02 - didn't make preliminary final
'03 - didn't make finals
'04 - didn't make finals
'05 - lost to eventual runners-up North Queensland
'06 - didn't make preliminary final
That's five appearances for only one win. That's a woeful 20%
Including our 0 from 1 Grand Final record (0% lol) we have a combined finals record of 8 from 17 (47%).
That's slightly below the league average of 50% (duh) but a win in week 1 this year will bring us back up to 50%.
Interestingly, before our loss to Melbourne last year our record was also 50% (8 from 16).
Either way, the preliminary final is a serious bogey game for us. However, Michael Hagan's finals record (4 from 8, being 50% though he's lost 4 of his past 5) sees him winning the only preliminary final he's ever coached in (in 2001). He's also won the only Grand Final he's ever coached in (in the same year, funnily enough).
For a breakdown of Hagan's record he's won 2 from 4 in week 1 of the finals and lost both the week 2 games he's coached in. As stated above, he is 1 from 1 in both preliminary finals and grand finals.
What does all this mean? Not much probably. But stats heads should find it interesting.
Finals Week 1:
'97 - lost first week of finals to eventual Premiers Newcastle
'98 - won in first week of finals against North Sydney
'99 - won in first week of finals against Newcastle
'00 - won in first week of finals against eventual runners-up the Roosters
'01 - won in first week of finals against the Warriors
'02 - lost in first week of finals against Brisbane
'03 - didn't make finals
'04 - didn't make finals
'05 - won in first week of finals against Manly
'06 - lost in first week of finals against eventual runners-up Melbourne
That's 5 from 8 for a winning percentage of 63%
Finals Week 2:
In the past ten years we have played only 3 times (we also had 3 BYES) in the second week of the finals for 2 wins and a loss (that's 67%):
'97 - lost to Norths
'98 - won against eventual Premiers Brisbane
'99 - BYE
'00 - won against Penrith
'01 - BYE
'02 - didn't make second week
'03 - didn't make finals
'04 - didn't make finals
'05 - BYE
'06 - didn't make second week
As you can see, we haven't played in the second week of the finals for nearly 7 years, but when we do we have a great record.
Finals Week 3:
'97 - didn't make preliminary final
'98 - lost to eventual runners-up Canterbury
'99 - lost to eventual Premiers Melbourne
'00 - lost to eventual Premiers Brisbane
'01 - won against Brisbane
'02 - didn't make preliminary final
'03 - didn't make finals
'04 - didn't make finals
'05 - lost to eventual runners-up North Queensland
'06 - didn't make preliminary final
That's five appearances for only one win. That's a woeful 20%
Including our 0 from 1 Grand Final record (0% lol) we have a combined finals record of 8 from 17 (47%).
That's slightly below the league average of 50% (duh) but a win in week 1 this year will bring us back up to 50%.
Interestingly, before our loss to Melbourne last year our record was also 50% (8 from 16).
Either way, the preliminary final is a serious bogey game for us. However, Michael Hagan's finals record (4 from 8, being 50% though he's lost 4 of his past 5) sees him winning the only preliminary final he's ever coached in (in 2001). He's also won the only Grand Final he's ever coached in (in the same year, funnily enough).
For a breakdown of Hagan's record he's won 2 from 4 in week 1 of the finals and lost both the week 2 games he's coached in. As stated above, he is 1 from 1 in both preliminary finals and grand finals.
What does all this mean? Not much probably. But stats heads should find it interesting.